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Old 03-05-2025, 08:50 AM   #10761
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I'd love to see something like this

Njd 1st round pick+ kadri (retained) + Anderson (retained)

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Some combination of Nemec, Mercer, Silayev, Seamus
This seems like a trade just to satisfy the need to get rid of older players that are actually productive for younger players who may be. Do the Flames lack prospects on the backend such that they need to pick up 3 defencemen in a trade? Like are they loaded with center prospects and forward prospects and they just need to add a few defencemen that are young?
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Old 03-05-2025, 08:53 AM   #10762
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1. A $9M max term deal could look bad quick so maybe best to get a return for him instead of re-signing, and
i would bet that this will not happen - CC trades him if this is the cost...or if that high then short term deal.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:00 AM   #10763
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The goal does not change, regardless of what happens Friday.

Go ask all the bottom 8 Teams if they would trade places with Calgary. They'd all say Yes.
Really? Interesting. Give me San Jose's situation all day and twice on Sundays
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:13 AM   #10764
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Really? Interesting. Give me San Jose's situation all day and twice on Sundays
Anaheim as well.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:14 AM   #10765
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Do we really need another young defenseman? We don’t have room for them now as it is.
Personally I don't feel winning organizations lay out space for top prospects in future years.

They have to make it, and most don't.

Plan your team and make room if you need to.
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after this year we may only have Weegs and Bahl (possibly Pachal) as everyday NHL defensemen - you're saying we have more than 3 young defensemen ready to step in?

there is plenty of room even if they got Nemec or re-signed Ras.
If Nemec is NHL ready at 21 then what's wrong with our 20-21 year olds? Right now our potential D core for next year could be this (I posted it in the Parekh thread):

Bahl-Weegar
Bean-Pachal
Solovyov-Parekh
X: Kuznetsov

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Bahl-Andersson
Weegar-Pachal
Solovyov-Parekh
X: Bean, Kuznetsov

And that doesn't account for Poirier, Grushnikov, Brzustewicz, or Morin. Also, Nemec and/or Andersson forces one of the D to play of their off-side. I would feel that if we were to spend assets and go after a young D, the priority should be a natural LD and not another young RD to jam up Parekh and Brzustewicz.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:15 AM   #10767
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That’s a big overpay by Flames…. Something like,

To NJ
Andersson (50%)
Pospisil

To CGY
Mercer
Nemec

Calgary would maybe need to add a mid round pick.
Hell no.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:16 AM   #10768
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Really? Interesting. Give me San Jose's situation all day and twice on Sundays
I think he meant more that any team would rather be battling for the playoffs, not necessarily trading rosters.

And it's probably true. San Jose is pretty happy with a top 3 pick, but I doubt they'd be unhappy if they were battling for the playoffs right now either.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:16 AM   #10769
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The trade proposal with New Jersey looks terrible. The team doesn't need any Mercer type players.

Royle9 said he has a feeling Craig is trying to compete now. So why not just keep your picks and try to swing big, trading picks for bit pieces here and there do nothing for this team. We have holes on the top line, and on the backend. Help is coming with Parekh and he needs a partner that slots everyone properly with Bahl going to a 2nd pair role, push Hanley out of the lineup.

If they truly are going big hame hunting in free agency, keep your picks. You could use a 3rd or 4th to trade for their rights and get a head start and see if you can sign them.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:25 AM   #10770
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The Flames have too many wingers and RD, so I hope whatever trades we make sees more going out than coming in.

I expect to see some of Miromanov, Vladar, Hanley & Rooney moved out for pennies.
I hope to see some of Anderson, Coleman, Kadri or Backlund moved for real assets.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:27 AM   #10771
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What would be the cost to get Mason McTavish? He is the type of player we should be going after.

For a 2nd pairing D to play with Weegar, I think Mario Ferraro would be a good choice. I am not sure what the market is for him but I am thinking atleast a 2nd+.

These would be the players I would want Craig to after, stays with in the plan and makes them more competitive.
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Although I would prefer a top end C over anything, I don't think the Flames are in a position to say that "we don't need Nemec because he is an RD".

He is a very recent No2 Overall. Trade Rasmus and we have room for an RD.

Parekh (80% to pan out)
Nemec (75% to pan out)
Bru (40% to pan out)
Mews (25% to pan out)

There is a very good chance 2 of the 4 above never turn into difference makers.

Then we have Weegar (who can play left when the 2nd pans out) and Pachal. This also allows us to trade from a position of strength that other clubs would envy. I think Bru for example can be a touted commodity.
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Conroy's done nothing but good moves so far. I'll trust his plan. Just hoping to see some movement and no sitting on this roster. There's needs, there's excess that need to be trimmed. Some upgrading. There's plenty of things to tinker with and get younger in the process.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:32 AM   #10774
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Really? Interesting. Give me San Jose's situation all day and twice on Sundays
They've missed the playoffs since 19-20. Sure the Sharks loaded with young talent but that doesn't mean it ends anytime soon. Even with Celebrini and all those years of top 10 picks the sharks are still in the bottom.

Imagine having no meaningful hockey to watch for a half decade and the future waits to be written.

People around here don't seem to see the impact of bottoming out. It takes 5+ years to recover financially as an owner. They don't get merch sales, playoff revenue and the list goes on.

More oilers 97/29 jersey were sold in Alberta than any flames jersey in the last 10 years. I also would bet you that in the "youth market" that disparity would be even higher and the "youth" are your market in 10 years.
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They've missed the playoffs since 19-20. Sure the Sharks loaded with young talent but that doesn't mean it ends anytime soon. Even with Celebrini and all those years of top 10 picks the sharks are still in the bottom.

Imagine having no meaningful hockey to watch for a half decade and the future waits to be written.

People around here don't seem to see the impact of bottoming out. It takes 5+ years to recover financially as an owner. They don't get merch sales, playoff revenue and the list goes on.

More oilers 97/29 jersey were sold in Alberta than any flames jersey in the last 10 years. I also would bet you that in the "youth market" that disparity would be even higher and the "youth" are your market in 10 years.
What will the youth be cheering for in 10 years outside of Parekh?

2nd and 3rd liners won't be selling jerseys.
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Really? Interesting. Give me San Jose's situation all day and twice on Sundays
San Jose is in an awful economic position, they have one of the oldest arena's in the league, they have the 2nd worst attendance, and the highest American tax rate. They are ranked by Forbes as the 6th least valuable team in the NHL. As the Salary cap goes up, it will not be able to protect them. I have my doubts they will be able to dig themselves out of this hole.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:38 AM   #10777
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The Flames have too many wingers and RD, so I hope whatever trades we make sees more going out than coming in.

I expect to see some of Miromanov, Vladar, Hanley & Rooney moved out for pennies.
I hope to see some of Anderson, Coleman, Kadri or Backlund moved for real assets.
I think we've done well enough on the road trip that I would expect none of those trades to happen. Even if the Stars blow us out, it is unlikely to cause dramatic selling of the roster.

Miromanov going out makes sense as he's really blown his opportunity here and it doesn't impact the roster at all but it can wait for the offseason.

Otherwise, I would think that Cozens (or someone similar) would be the top of the list to acquire and that our spending of assets should be focused on that.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:41 AM   #10778
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They've missed the playoffs since 19-20. Sure the Sharks loaded with young talent but that doesn't mean it ends anytime soon. Even with Celebrini and all those years of top 10 picks the sharks are still in the bottom.

Imagine having no meaningful hockey to watch for a half decade and the future waits to be written.

People around here don't seem to see the impact of bottoming out. It takes 5+ years to recover financially as an owner. They don't get merch sales, playoff revenue and the list goes on.

More oilers 97/29 jersey were sold in Alberta than any flames jersey in the last 10 years. I also would bet you that in the "youth market" that disparity would be even higher and the "youth" are your market in 10 years.
Hear you. Going to Sharks games has been depressing. Not even the fact that they lose....it's the crowd and vibe around the team; place is 2/3 full at best. Quiet. Going through the motions. Crazy what a fall from where that team used to be. Roster is full of players you could care less about beyond the hopefuls. Wake us when it's done.
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What will the youth be cheering for in 10 years outside of Parekh?

2nd and 3rd liners won't be selling jerseys.
They wont care about the flames.
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Old 03-05-2025, 09:44 AM   #10780
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Makes me sick that the conversation in here is Oilers stealing away the Flames youth fanbase. Shame on all of you lol.
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