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Old 02-26-2025, 01:13 PM   #6501
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Am I wrong for wondering if these tariffs could genuinely cripple the US auto industry?

I can’t imagine the appetite for American cars (which are now even more overpriced) in the middle of a trade war.

If California stopped buying American vehicles, I think that would be a pretty big deal.
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Old 02-26-2025, 02:28 PM   #6502
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Am I wrong for wondering if these tariffs could genuinely cripple the US auto industry?

I can’t imagine the appetite for American cars (which are now even more overpriced) in the middle of a trade war.

If California stopped buying American vehicles, I think that would be a pretty big deal.
We're in the market for a vehicle and the first one we ruled out was Tesla, but there is no way we'd even look at anything in the US at this point. Even vehicles made there is something we're looking to avoid.
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So if people are planning to stop buying Americanade cars does that include VW, Nissan, Honda, Toyota in your eyes? Because they all have models that get made in the U.S
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Old 02-26-2025, 03:19 PM   #6504
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Criteria for being “made in the U.S.” takes into consideration the proportion of the actual parts that are manufactured in the U.S., does it not? 75% or something?
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Old 02-26-2025, 04:02 PM   #6506
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So if people are planning to stop buying Americanade cars does that include VW, Nissan, Honda, Toyota in your eyes? Because they all have models that get made in the U.S
Depending on how the tariffs shake out, yes I believe those domestically manufactured imports will also see a sales decline.

As you said it's going to depend on the model. For example, if you're interested in a light truck the Honda Ridgeline might become more appealing because they're made in Canada. Toyota and Nissan make the Tacoma and Frontier in the US and obviously GM and Ford make their light trucks there too. If the tariffs go each way, the Ridgeline is going to become a much more affordable option to Canadians.

Same goes for a Civic (Canada) vs a Corolla (US). When you're looking for a particular style of vehicle, you might not have a choice, but if you're comparing two economy vehicles why wouldn't you chose the Honda if it's cheaper?
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I know, or at least read that the Japanese car makers are planning on pulling out of the U.S manufacturing game when these Tariffs get rolling. Honda/Nissan cannot afford to pay more to make whatever they make in the U.S. Toyota will be hard pressed as well.

One good thing that may come from this is that those makers will move to Canada or at least bring more work, create more trade between them and maybe get some models made here that wouldn't be available normally. It'll be an interesting couple of years from that perspective.

Like in the U.S they get a far more diverse trim line up across the board, I suspect that could shift.
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I know, or at least read that the Japanese car makers are planning on pulling out of the U.S manufacturing game when these Tariffs get rolling. Honda/Nissan cannot afford to pay more to make whatever they make in the U.S. Toyota will be hard pressed as well.

One good thing that may come from this is that those makers will move to Canada or at least bring more work, create more trade between them and maybe get some models made here that wouldn't be available normally. It'll be an interesting couple of years from that perspective.

Like in the U.S they get a far more diverse trim line up across the board, I suspect that could shift.
Help me understand, it will be a better savings to get the raw materials in Canada untariffed then the additional tariff selling the finished good into the larger US market?

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Old 02-26-2025, 08:43 PM   #6509
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So if people are planning to stop buying Americanade cars does that include VW, Nissan, Honda, Toyota in your eyes? Because they all have models that get made in the U.S
No - they’d stop buying American cars - IE Ford, GM, Dodge.

Everything is going to be made more expensive by these tariffs, including American makes.

When everything is expensive, the tiebreakers are quality and preference.

American cars have never been high on quality.

I suspect there are now a large portion of Canadians, who had never really given any thought to moving away from their Ford or Chev, but who now no longer wish to support those brands, for obvious reasons.

Combine that with a much larger percentage of the population that is going “America, #### You” and you’re going to have a lot of trouble moving overpriced, inefficient vehicles that people are now predisposed to hate.

That may well to drive down the value of preowned American cars, Which will put more owners in bad financial situations, which will discourage the purchase of a future Ford or GM. Or Tesla.

Canada imports more American brand vehicles than China and Germany combined. We are the biggest customer of the big three.

And their president has Declared war on our country. The answer to why all of these vehicles are about to become $15-$20,000 more expensive is Quite literally “#### you, that’s why”.

Employee pricing isn’t gonna overcome that.
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What is that likely to mean for Toyota prices? I’m looking at a new RAV and worry that prices may increase.
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Old 02-26-2025, 09:29 PM   #6511
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My 2021 RAV rear window stopped working properly. Dealer says I need a $1500 motor. Suggestions?
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My 2021 RAV rear window stopped working properly. Dealer says I need a $1500 motor. Suggestions?
Try You tube, check E-Bay for the motor. Probably not too difficult and save a ton of money.
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Old 02-26-2025, 10:15 PM   #6513
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What is that likely to mean for Toyota prices? I’m looking at a new RAV and worry that prices may increase.

I work for one of the Toyota dealers in town - we’re scheduled to receive 200 vehicles this month, all of them pre sold.

Order one now - they’re only going to get more expensive.

Or go with a slightly used one - I shudder to think what the secondary market is going to do once tariff-adjusted pricing is released.
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Old 02-28-2025, 11:21 AM   #6514
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Very cool engine

EDIT: Oh cool it explains how it has the distinctive sound they have, has to do with the angle of the pistons and the firing timing, neat!

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First car I test drove looking for potential replacements was an 2020 AMG C43. Lol everything else is going to seem mundane after that isn't it? That was a lot of fun.

I haven't found anything about them being particularly problematic or unreliable.

What about slightly older ones, there's a few private 2017/2018s out there in the 80,000kms range?
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I was in the market for a C43 and similar for a while so I did a lot of research, can't really go wrong with that one based on what I've read.

The coupes are beautiful.
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My 2021 RAV rear window stopped working properly. Dealer says I need a $1500 motor. Suggestions?

A couple of suggestions would be to see if this is part of the major component part of the warranty which is usually 5 years , do a little homework. Push for a goodwill offer from dealer management or Toyota Canada Did you ever bring the issue to the dealer previously but the issue was not fixed?

Somewhat related on a RAV 4 I have that I was told needed a major repair with a window that did not open/close properly but was still serviceable. Was quoted approx $700 for the repair from dealer. I happened to be at Economy Glass on 17th Ave in Calgary for another matter and they had a quick look. It turned out to be a plastic clip that they installed for free with a request I come back for any glass work I need on it.

That is a different repair then needing a new window motor but still liked the honesty. I would also have a look at the fuse box and see if you blew it .

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Old 03-01-2025, 11:28 PM   #6518
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The coupes wagons are beautiful.
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Rav 4 Window Motors...

Also used on the following.

TOYOTA COROLLA 2020-2023
TOYOTA RAV4 2019-2023
TOYOTA SIENNA 2021-2023

Start looking at scrap yards.
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I know, or at least read that the Japanese car makers are planning on pulling out of the U.S manufacturing game when these Tariffs get rolling. Honda/Nissan cannot afford to pay more to make whatever they make in the U.S. Toyota will be hard pressed as well.

One good thing that may come from this is that those makers will move to Canada or at least bring more work, create more trade between them and maybe get some models made here that wouldn't be available normally. It'll be an interesting couple of years from that perspective.

Like in the U.S they get a far more diverse trim line up across the board, I suspect that could shift.
Everything I have read is that the Japanese automakers will be trying to move Canadian and Mexican manufacturing to the USA which is the exact opposite of pulling out of the USA.
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