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Old 02-25-2025, 02:03 PM   #61
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If McDavid asks for anything less than 8 x 20%, he's stupid and so is his agent.

So he will do exactly that.
If any team meets that demand, they're stupid.

Nobody has signed a maximum contract in the cap era. (A few were grandfathered in back in 2005.) Signing such a contract for McDavid's declining years would be team suicide.

McDavid without his speed would be like a martini without alcohol. Pointless.
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With their doctors, he probably doesn't make it the full 8 years.
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McDavid is 28 on pace for 116 pts.

At 28 Thornton had 114 pts. followed by 96,86,89,70,77, he was pretty much a mid 70s pt player for his 30s.

*because he got his points playing in Pit in the 90s, but Kevin Stevens went;
123 pts at 27 then, 111, 88, 82pt pace, 36, 34, 41...

Mike Goulet at 28 106pt, then 64,51,65,63,44

Kurri at 28, 96pts, then 102,93,60,87,77

Huberdeau at 28 had a 91 pt pace, then 115,55,52,62.

There are lots of examples of guys who put up a few very high point season in there late 20s who then became middling second tier offensive players in their 30s. And I've been arguing for years that McDavids game is specifically built for that kind of decline. Given the way he plays, I think for him to continue to be successful and not be one of those guys, he would need to learn to be more of a power forward, instead of skating around guys he is going to need to learn to skate through them. I don't know if that will happen or not.
It's pretty crazy that you can look up almost any truly elite player across different generations and watch the elite and best scoring seasons fall off from ages ~30 onwards. McDavid could push the limits if he stays healthy for a year or two beyond that, but I don't see any scenario where the Oilers aren't paying something like $18-20M per year to keep him and having him produce more like a top 15-20 scorer versus dominating the scoring charts like he has been.

The Oilers are going to be knee deep in kaka paying Leon and McDavid ~$35M per for forever in just a couple of seasons when they aren't able to cover up all the warts on that team anymore. The only better outcome would be if they extend Bouchard and Skinner to mega deals too.
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Old 02-25-2025, 03:52 PM   #65
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If any team meets that demand, they're stupid.

Nobody has signed a maximum contract in the cap era. (A few were grandfathered in back in 2005.) Signing such a contract for McDavid's declining years would be team suicide.

McDavid without his speed would be like a martini without alcohol. Pointless.
Other teams will only be able to offer 7 years in free agency.

The player should always be asking for max.
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aLcOHoL!
I #### you not that I saw on mythbusters you can run cheap vodka through a Brita filter and make it into good vodka.
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Old 02-25-2025, 04:43 PM   #67
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It's certainly not without president

McDavid is 28 on pace for 116 pts.

At 28 Thornton had 114 pts. followed by 96,86,89,70,77, he was pretty much a mid 70s pt player for his 30s.

*because he got his points playing in Pit in the 90s, but Kevin Stevens went;
123 pts at 27 then, 111, 88, 82pt pace, 36, 34, 41...

Mike Goulet at 28 106pt, then 64,51,65,63,44

Kurri at 28, 96pts, then 102,93,60,87,77

Huberdeau at 28 had a 91 pt pace, then 115,55,52,62.

There are lots of examples of guys who put up a few very high point season in there late 20s who then became middling second tier offensive players in their 30s. And I've been arguing for years that McDavids game is specifically built for that kind of decline. Given the way he plays, I think for him to continue to be successful and not be one of those guys, he would need to learn to be more of a power forward, instead of skating around guys he is going to need to learn to skate through them. I don't know if that will happen or not.
I'm not sure I see this bad a decline but boy oh boy would it be sweet especially after signing an 18 mill per year contract.
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With their doctors, he probably doesn't make it the full 8 years.
You won’t be surprised to hear that he has his own medical team.
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aLcOHoL!
I mean...they're not lying, that is value right there. Thats a lot of Vodka for not a lotta money.

Oh sure, it might be terrible, but it's cheap and it'll get the job done for sure! Something you can't say about the Oilers.

They're terrible, expensive and don't get the job done!
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It's certainly not without president

McDavid is 28 on pace for 116 pts.

At 28 Thornton had 114 pts. followed by 96,86,89,70,77, he was pretty much a mid 70s pt player for his 30s.

*because he got his points playing in Pit in the 90s, but Kevin Stevens went;
123 pts at 27 then, 111, 88, 82pt pace, 36, 34, 41...

Mike Goulet at 28 106pt, then 64,51,65,63,44

Kurri at 28, 96pts, then 102,93,60,87,77

Huberdeau at 28 had a 91 pt pace, then 115,55,52,62.

There are lots of examples of guys who put up a few very high point season in there late 20s who then became middling second tier offensive players in their 30s. And I've been arguing for years that McDavids game is specifically built for that kind of decline. Given the way he plays, I think for him to continue to be successful and not be one of those guys, he would need to learn to be more of a power forward, instead of skating around guys he is going to need to learn to skate through them. I don't know if that will happen or not.
I think you mean't to say prime minister.
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I think you mean't to say prime minister.
Yeah leave Trump out of this, let's set precedent.
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The Oilers need to keep Jeff Skinner.
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Not sure about the "fake" but man, Skinner is literally asleep. Bouchard standing straight up and also asleep. Mcjesus coasting. Arvidsson throws up hands in disgust at his own team. Body language of losers all around.


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Oilers starting to show their true colours?? Getting embarrassed all over the ice. They would be staring at an 8 game losing streak if it wasn't for 2 OT wins against bottom 5 teams. Who both were playing their backup goalies on the second half of a back to back. And the Oilers needed a PP in OT and a last minute fluke goal to achieve those wins.

Flames now only 8 points back with a game in hand. Just sayin.
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Oilers starting to show their true colours?? Getting embarrassed all over the ice. They would be staring at an 8 game losing streak if it wasn't for 2 OT wins against bottom 5 teams. Who both were playing their backup goalies on the second half of a back to back. And the Oilers needed a PP in OT and a last minute fluke goal to achieve those wins.

Flames now only 8 points back with a game in hand. Just sayin.
McDavid is non-existent, he’s completely out of gas. Bouchard isn’t even an NHL caliber player over the last few games. Skinner is feeling the pressure. It’s fantastic.

Now need Bowman to sell the ranch for a goalie and another “scoring” forward.

Complete disaster of a team…..
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