02-25-2025, 01:24 PM
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#9681
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think he is a winger going forward but someone like Sandman or Dash Pinched can answer that better.
Is switching someone ranked #1 positions something that has been done before?
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Would be interesting if he is a winger instead of a centre. Can’t remember the last time a winger was as hyped as he is. Usually, a winger being the #1 pick is a bit of an indictment on the draft class. In this case, I would assume he’s just that good. His numbers are crazy.
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02-25-2025, 01:27 PM
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#9682
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
If you are saying that over 15 games, not having Andersson in the line-up would equate to 5 less wins, that would make him one of the most impactful players in the entire league. Over an entire season that equates to him being responsible for about 25 wins.
It is a rather preposterous premise.
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Just to play devils advocate, no Ras would make this maybe the worst D in the league. An injury to Weegar would def cement it as such.
So I don't think it is unreasonable to look at the games Flames stole or barely won this season and think that maybe without Ras we would have been overwhelmed and defeated. Five less wins? Sure, that's possible.
Saying that you would lose 5 games without Ras is not the same as saying Ras won you 5 extra games.
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02-25-2025, 01:29 PM
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#9683
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stemit14
Would be interesting if he is a winger instead of a centre. Can’t remember the last time a winger was as hyped as he is. Usually, a winger being the #1 pick is a bit of an indictment on the draft class. In this case, I would assume he’s just that good. His numbers are crazy.
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Whatever position he _should_ play, BUF will find a way to mess it up after they draft him. LOL
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02-25-2025, 01:30 PM
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#9684
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Would be interesting if he is a winger instead of a centre. Can’t remember the last time a winger was as hyped as he is. Usually, a winger being the #1 pick is a bit of an indictment on the draft class. In this case, I would assume he’s just that good. His numbers are crazy.
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I have asked this many times and was told he is a winger. He played wing at the WJ Tournament.
He is just that good, and that would be one winger I wouldn't hesitate taking #1.
You could roll with a O'Reilly or Toews type as your #1C in that case.
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02-25-2025, 01:35 PM
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#9685
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think he is a winger going forward but someone like Sandman or Dash Pinched can answer that better.
Is switching someone ranked #1 positions something that has been done before?
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McKenna can play C, but he's playing LW all year from what I've seen.
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02-25-2025, 01:37 PM
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#9686
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Just to play devils advocate, no Ras would make this maybe the worst D in the league. An injury to Weegar would def cement it as such.
So I don't think it is unreasonable to look at the games Flames stole or barely won this season and think that maybe without Ras we would have been overwhelmed and defeated. Five less wins? Sure, that's possible.
Saying that you would lose 5 games without Ras is not the same as saying Ras won you 5 extra games.
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5 less wins overall to this point in the season? Maybe.
5 less wins in a 15 game set? That's a stretch.
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02-25-2025, 01:45 PM
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#9687
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sandman
McKenna can play C, but he's playing LW all year from what I've seen.
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I wonder if he starts playing some center next year in that case. I imagine NHL teams would love to see that but his NHL rights won’t be held by anyone yet so Mdeicine Hat will do whatever gets them more wins - it will very likely be their last season with him.
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02-25-2025, 01:46 PM
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#9688
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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I’ve always liked Macelli, had a bit of a 80% of a Gaudreau vibe to him.
Unfortunately the Flames have less than 0 need for a top 6 LW so I’d imagine he ends up somewhere else.
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02-25-2025, 01:49 PM
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#9689
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
5 less wins overall to this point in the season? Maybe.
5 less wins in a 15 game set? That's a stretch.
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5 wins over a 15 game stretch would be the equivalent of 27 wins over a full season.
Right now the Flames are on pace to go 40-31-11 roughly.
Without Rasmus assuming that the wins become losses they would go 13-58-11 in this scenario for 37 points which would be a .226 winning percentage. That would be the worst team in the history of the loser point NHL.
It seems unlikely that Rasmus is the player who is preventing the Flames from being one of the worst teams in the history of the NHL.
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02-25-2025, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I have asked this many times and was told he is a winger. He played wing at the WJ Tournament.
He is just that good, and that would be one winger I wouldn't hesitate taking #1.
You could roll with a O'Reilly or Toews type as your #1C in that case.
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Yeah you make a good point with Toews as well, as Kane may well be the exact quality of player you would expect McKenna to become. Some teams with elite wingers as their best players have had cup success, its rare and you still need top quality players at other important positions but you can likely get away with a top 20-25 center if you have a winger of that elite quality.
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02-25-2025, 01:55 PM
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#9691
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Franchise Player
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You would have to move out a few more bodies up front. Maybe Backlund and someone else a Coleman along with Andersson to truly sink the team.
The other think you can do is give Vladar more starts.
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02-25-2025, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I read an article earlier this year that said that the jury is still out on whether or not he will be a C in the NHL, but I seem to recall that it said that McKenna is more comfortable on the wing, because he can be more creative….
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02-25-2025, 02:06 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I read an article earlier this year that said that the jury is still out on whether or not he will be a C in the NHL, but I seem to recall that it said that McKenna is more comfortable on the wing, because he can be more creative….
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Cool. If he is a winger, would it be reasonable to say he is the most hyped winger prospect going into a draft year since Kane? I can’t remember how much hype there was around a Kane at the start of his draft year. McKenna might be even more hyped.
I just can’t remember a winger getting this much attention so many years before his draft. We’ve been talking about him since Bedard’s draft year.
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02-25-2025, 02:08 PM
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#9694
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Yeah, being responsible for 5 in a span of 15 games is probably boarding on McDavid type impact.
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02-25-2025, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
If you are saying that over 15 games, not having Andersson in the line-up would equate to 5 less wins, that would make him one of the most impactful players in the entire league. Over an entire season that equates to him being responsible for about 25 wins.
It is a rather preposterous premise.
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Rasmus isn’t even the best dman on the flames. Like you said no chance he is that impactful.
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02-25-2025, 02:27 PM
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#9696
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Cool. If he is a winger, would it be reasonable to say he is the most hyped winger prospect going into a draft year since Kane? I can’t remember how much hype there was around a Kane at the start of his draft year. McKenna might be even more hyped.
I just can’t remember a winger getting this much attention so many years before his draft. We’ve been talking about him since Bedard’s draft year.
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Lafreniere probably.
When he was 16 he scored 42 goals in the QMJHL and was compared to Crosby. His production the next two seasons didn't really live up to that initial hype, but at 16 he was talked about as the Next Big Thing.
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02-25-2025, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I have asked this many times and was told he is a winger. He played wing at the WJ Tournament.
He is just that good, and that would be one winger I wouldn't hesitate taking #1.
You could roll with a O'Reilly or Toews type as your #1C in that case.
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Yeah, I guess we could meander along with a #1C like future Hall of Famer Toews.
Kane was hyped, but I don't believe he was an automatic #1 pick. he certainly wasn't talked about being generational. Kane was obviously a great player, but his greatest asset was the way he raised his game in the playoffs. Same for Toews and Kane, Bolland etc.
McKenna is hyped way more than Kane ever was.
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02-25-2025, 02:38 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Yeah, I guess we could meander along with a #1C like future Hall of Famer Toews.
Kane was hyped, but I don't believe he was an automatic #1 pick. he certainly wasn't talked about being generational. Kane was obviously a great player, but his greatest asset was the way he raised his game in the playoffs. Same for Toews and Kane, Bolland etc.
McKenna is hyped way more than Kane ever was.
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Wasn't meant to take a shot them, just mean you might not need to have your center have to take on the entire offensive load and have another elite play driver. Someone who can play against the other teams top lines.
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02-25-2025, 02:52 PM
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#9699
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I read an article earlier this year that said that the jury is still out on whether or not he will be a C in the NHL, but I seem to recall that it said that McKenna is more comfortable on the wing, because he can be more creative….
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He's got another entire season in the WHL at the very least and has already broken 100+ points.
If I was his coach/advisor, I would be telling him to ignore the point totals and learn how to play center effectively.
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02-25-2025, 03:07 PM
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#9700
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Yeah, I guess we could meander along with a #1C like future Hall of Famer Toews.
Kane was hyped, but I don't believe he was an automatic #1 pick. he certainly wasn't talked about being generational. Kane was obviously a great player, but his greatest asset was the way he raised his game in the playoffs. Same for Toews and Kane, Bolland etc.
McKenna is hyped way more than Kane ever was.
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IIRC Kane shot up the rankings over the year. I think before the season started, it was supposed to be Voracek or Angelo Exposito.
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