Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[FacePaint]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Who would you rather have running the AER? Do you have an issue with a Doctor running the College of Physicians or a Lawyer running the Law Society?

In this analogy isn't it more like a convict running the law society and a patient with chronic illness running the College of Physicians?

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by GGG

I coming from the idea of is this a fair comparison of the cost of services.

Like the government can invest in expanding public capacity or it can pay a 3rd party to do the surgery.

In that calculation the comparisons should be the cost of adding the capacity AND the cost of the surgery vs the contract cost of the private sector. I have no idea from reading the article if the comparison they are making is reasonable or not.

In general I’d rather invest in permanent capacity

My understanding is that there’s a fair amount of unused capacity in the public system due to inadequate staffing. It seems like that should be a cheaper issue to solve than hiring privately.

[#-3]

So let me get this straight, when you start doing things for profit it costs more? because someone is taking a profit?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by #-3

So let me get this straight, when you start doing things for profit it costs more? because someone is taking a profit?

No, it costs money for a building.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GGG

No, it costs money for a building.

ahh, private surgeries in an alley, I like the end game here.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Muta

Geezus Christ, there is so much smoke and fire with Sam Mraiche / MHCare it’s off the damn charts now. The RCMP needs to investigate all of these shenanigans and Marlaina needs to step down.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the UCP is the worst government in Canadian history.

Have you seen our federal government?

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Have you seen our federal government?

Absolutely, UCP is lightyears worse. The list of bat#### insane tire fires from Kenney, Marlaina and their band of conservative/libertarian/Maple MAGA idiots is even more impressive given they’ve been in power four years shorter than the Liberals too.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by #-3

ahh, private surgeries in an alley, I like the end game here.

If you cant handle the authenticity of an alley, preferably with a burning dumpster in the background, then what real business do you have getting surgery anyways?

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Who would you rather have running the AER? Do you have an issue with a Doctor running the College of Physicians or a Lawyer running the Law Society?

In this case, it's more like a murderer in charge of the homicide dept, or a robber managing a bank...

[mogg]

Or a payday lender running the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, or a fox guarding the hen house…

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by aaronck

In this case, it's more like a murderer in charge of the homicide dept, or a robber managing a bank...

Right, I think most reasonable people would say working for an oil company is the same as being a murderer or robber.

[mogg]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Right, I think most reasonable people would say working for an oil company is the same as being a murderer or robber.

Do you think maybe you’re missing the point?

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by mogg

Do you think maybe you’re missing the point?

I have no opinion about this person specifically, but the AER should be run by someone with industry experience, and the comparison to criminals is offensive to oil and gas professionals. That isn't a role that needs a Guilbeault type. Alberta has historically led the world in safe and effective energy development, and we should continue doing so.

[mogg]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I have no opinion about this person specifically, but the AER should be run by someone with industry experience, and the comparison to criminals is offensive to oil and gas professionals. That isn't a role that needs a Guilbeault type. Alberta has historically led the world in safe and effective energy development, and we should continue doing so.

Well, first of all it’s not someone who “worked for” an oil and gas company, it’s someone who ran a company. Not a worker, an executive. This is an important distinction. Do you really think an executive is going to turn on a dime one day and start meddling in the affairs of his country club buddies? Get his old company to clean up its orphan wells? Why even have a regulator if it’s going to be run by the regulated? If there’s a conflict of interest it won’t work.

As for the environmental records of these companies, not good my friend. Not good. But that’s a whole other discussion.

[Sr. Mints]

Man, Carrie Tait has been throwing haymakers for the last two weeks--jab, hook, uppercut, repeat. Love seeing an unlikable opponent getting clobbered.

[Mr.Coffee]

I know Rob, he’s a pretty good dude and anecdotally based on what I know about him, I think he actually will be very impartial running the AER. He’s actually a great person and has a very high ethical standard from what I know about him and from the limited interactions I’ve had with him. I wouldn’t be too worried about this one.

[Canadianman]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Wĥy is someone that used to work for MHCare now working for AHS on the contracts they have...with MHCare?

Are you referring to Jitendra Prasad? If so, he worked for AHS long before he worked for MHCare. He was the Chief Procurement Officer (the head of everything procurement-related in AHS) for years and years before he retired (and was re-hired as a contractor by AHS/GOA) and worked for MHCare.


The whole thing is greasy as hell. I hope the investigation is done with integrity and honesty.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I know Rob, he’s a pretty good dude and anecdotally based on what I know about him, I think he actually will be very impartial running the AER. He’s actually a great person and has a very high ethical standard from what I know about him and from the limited interactions I’ve had with him. I wouldn’t be too worried about this one.

I don't know him at all, but I think having someone from industry in the role helps a lot. I do think that his record would stand for itself and if there were any questionable business practices from his past he wouldn't have been considered.

It isn't like someone from industry is going to make the AER ignore all the regulations. I would be more concerned about him being to close to the current UCP. The AER is supposed to be arms length from the government and I think even the recent premiers report said that the government needs to simmer down. I think that will be the the test whether he can/will support the technical decisions made that may differ from Brian Jean and the UCPs.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Canadianman

Are you referring to Jitendra Prasad? If so, he worked for AHS long before he worked for MHCare. He was the Chief Procurement Officer (the head of everything procurement-related in AHS) for years and years before he retired (and was re-hired as a contractor by AHS/GOA) and worked for MHCare.


The whole thing is greasy as hell. I hope the investigation is done with integrity and honesty.

Cheif Program Officer of CPSM in charge of all shipping, receiving, procurement and contracts for over a decade- Blayne Iskew also mentioned in one of the earlier Breakdown stories was an executive director that reported directly to him as well

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Canadianman

Are you referring to Jitendra Prasad? If so, he worked for AHS long before he worked for MHCare. He was the Chief Procurement Officer (the head of everything procurement-related in AHS) for years and years before he retired (and was re-hired as a contractor by AHS/GOA) and worked for MHCare.


The whole thing is greasy as hell. I hope the investigation is done with integrity and honesty.

Prasad had email accounts for MHCare and AHS simultaneously while negotiating contracts. Hello RCMP.