02-21-2025, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by curves2000
I just think things get REAL dicey when you start to really go after people for their political leanings and elements of support for whomever.
You wanna go after Wayne Gretzky for supporting Trump, totally fine, that's your deal. You can also start to go after ANYBODY of substance who attended Trump's inauguration as a guest of the President. That probably includes a lot of people that you may look up to and who champion YOUR causes. If your up there supporting Trump, we know that progressive causes are just for optics for the people like Pepsi. Pacify the little person
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"A lot of people" who champion Pepsi's causes? At the inauguration? Are you sure about that? I would love for you to provide a list, as I think the entire crew consisted of hard-core MAGAts, with a smattering of bootlicking corporate (tech, in particular) types. The only possible exception might be other heads of state, but I don't believe they are typically invited and certainly wouldn't be wearing MAGA hats and such.
I don't speak for Pepsi, but I don't see any crushed dreams due to his heroes attending. Even if they did, I would bet he would change his view on those people that did attend.
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02-21-2025, 04:22 PM
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#82
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
"A lot of people" who champion Pepsi's causes? At the inauguration? Are you sure about that? I would love for you to provide a list, as I think the entire crew consisted of hard-core MAGAts, with a smattering of bootlicking corporate (tech, in particular) types. The only possible exception might be other heads of state, but I don't believe they are typically invited and certainly wouldn't be wearing MAGA hats and such.
I don't speak for Pepsi, but I don't see any crushed dreams due to his heroes attending. Even if they did, I would bet he would change his view on those people that did attend.
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What I am saying is that you need to keep things level, even keeled, fair and balanced. People want to go after Gretzky for his support of Trump, strip him of his Order of Canada, call him an awful Canadian, question his loyalty etc. Go after to it. It doesn't matter to me. I find it strange to politically target people for support if its only one sided.
Apply the same or similar standards to others who have shown support or enabling Trump. Apple CEO Tim Cook gets a pass because he politely sits in the front row and is kissing a** while Trump gives a speech about taking away LGBTQ rights and mocking all who believe certain things. I thought something like those rights is paramount to Tim Cook, why are you there? So that you can maintain your compensation and status? Or is he there making sure that Apple products are still going to be made in China tariff free?
Jeff Bezos and his Climate Change Arena in Seattle get a pass? Guy was happier than hell sitting there with Trump while he's bragging about Drill baby Drill and climate change hoaxes. Is anybody going to stop buying products and services from them?
People can go after Gretzky all day long but also go after the other political side too. Go after your own side for enabling and making deals with Trump. People want Gretzky's head on a platter now for wearing a hat and showing support but others in left leaning and progressive circles get a pass? Why? Trump wrongfully goes crazy about DEI policies and people go batty but progressive billionaires do the same and all of a sudden its crickets? Does anybody have a backbone? Or is it just applied to one side and all about the money, power, status for everybody?
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02-21-2025, 04:28 PM
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#83
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Powerplay Quarterback
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^naw, traitor Gretzky deserves the vilification.
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02-21-2025, 04:31 PM
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#84
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Old rich white guys in America love Trump. Gretzky is an old rich white guy in America.
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02-21-2025, 04:33 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
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Who’s giving guys like Bezos a pass?
But fill your boots with whatabouts I guess
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02-21-2025, 04:33 PM
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#86
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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What happened to Wayne Gretzky? He became an American. That’s what happened.
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02-21-2025, 04:42 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by curves2000
What I am saying is that you need to keep things level, even keeled, fair and balanced. People want to go after Gretzky for his support of Trump, strip him of his Order of Canada, call him an awful Canadian, question his loyalty etc. Go after to it. It doesn't matter to me. I find it strange to politically target people for support if its only one sided.
Apply the same or similar standards to others who have shown support or enabling Trump. Apple CEO Tim Cook gets a pass because he politely sits in the front row and is kissing a** while Trump gives a speech about taking away LGBTQ rights and mocking all who believe certain things. I thought something like those rights is paramount to Tim Cook, why are you there? So that you can maintain your compensation and status? Or is he there making sure that Apple products are still going to be made in China tariff free?
Jeff Bezos and his Climate Change Arena in Seattle get a pass? Guy was happier than hell sitting there with Trump while he's bragging about Drill baby Drill and climate change hoaxes. Is anybody going to stop buying products and services from them?
People can go after Gretzky all day long but also go after the other political side too. Go after your own side for enabling and making deals with Trump. People want Gretzky's head on a platter now for wearing a hat and showing support but others in left leaning and progressive circles get a pass? Why? Trump wrongfully goes crazy about DEI policies and people go batty but progressive billionaires do the same and all of a sudden its crickets? Does anybody have a backbone? Or is it just applied to one side and all about the money, power, status for everybody?
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Billionaires and sycophants have constantly and consistently been criticized for their fealty to Trump.
What the hell are you talking about?
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02-21-2025, 04:43 PM
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#88
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Gretzky hasn't just betrayed Canada with his allegiance to Trump, but given his Ukrainian heritage? He should be deeply ashamed.
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02-21-2025, 04:48 PM
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#89
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Which team was Tim Cook honorary captain for?
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02-21-2025, 04:49 PM
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#90
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I would not be surprised if Trump in trying to use his friendship with Gretzky thinking that in can win our hearts and minds because hockey is so big here.
Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall the Trump-Gretzky connection being so public long before Trump's 2nd administration and the idea of annexing Canada was unveiled.
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02-21-2025, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Who’s giving guys like Bezos a pass?
But fill your boots with whatabouts I guess
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And it what screwed up POV is Bezos on “the other side”? lol
What the hell even is the other side from Gretzky? Because it ain’t another rich old white weirdo.
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02-21-2025, 04:52 PM
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#92
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Gretzky gave team Canada a speech before the game . Then came out and gave the US bench (players he probably knows better having lived in the states for 35 years) a thumbs up
The horror!!!
(I assume most people didn’t know he gave a speech to team Canada in the dressing room before ??7
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02-21-2025, 05:09 PM
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#94
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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lol well in that case all is forgiven!
I hope he found a decent Groupon to use for the hat order.
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02-21-2025, 05:11 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Gretzky gave team Canada a speech before the game . Then came out and gave the US bench (players he probably knows better having lived in the states for 35 years) a thumbs up
The horror!!!
(I assume most people didn’t know he gave a speech to team Canada in the dressing room before ??7
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I hate MAGA as much as anyone, but the specifics of yesterday are really being blown out of proportion.
It's not at all surprising that the best player of all time went to see all players before the game.
He gave a speech and read out the starting lineup for the Canadians and coming through the American bench could be a simple as logistics being they had the home bench and likely better access from the back.
If people want to hate on him for being a Trump ally, fair enough. But I don't think what happened at the game was noteworthy.
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02-21-2025, 05:18 PM
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#96
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What happened to Wayne Gretzky? He became an American. That’s what happened.
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The dumb kind.
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02-21-2025, 05:48 PM
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#97
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What happened to Wayne Gretzky? He became an American. That’s what happened.
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We’ve made many American friends who aren’t like that. Otherwise they wouldn’t be friends.
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02-21-2025, 05:57 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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lol he gave them hats.
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02-21-2025, 06:09 PM
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#99
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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I was listening to some Edmonton radio today and those twits are pissed! Heard a few suggestions to rename Wayne Gretzky drive.
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02-21-2025, 06:11 PM
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#100
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Lifetime Suspension
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They should call it Connor McDavid Dive.
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