See that’s what I’m talking about. Just make your comments and stop whining about the fact that someone might point out that age does not necessarily equal intelligence.
Well you're definitely my senior, so all be it for me to lecture you on life, but
I'll say, we all had a lot of good laughs at your expense last time. Because there is a seeming lack of consequential thinking in a lot of your statements. Generally they boil down to "the world should be the way that makes me feel comfortable", which really doesn't consider that a world structured that way may leave others uncomfortable, and if they take the same approach to political discourse that the two of you will be irreconcilably separated in your views, leaving you unable to participate in common (which is what the whole project of nation state democracy is).
On the other hand, I think you just need some empathy with where you are coming from. Have there been instances of people leveraging some form of minority status for advantage? almost certainly yes. But it is still measurably far below the advantages many others have taken from having non minority statuses.
From an Ideal prospective, I agree explicitly promoting someone on the basis of race is not where we want to be. But we are a long way from an ideal world, and we might need to let some people who just wont get the opportunity otherwise step up.
*I do explicitly believe that were my language skills / race / sex different I'd have reached the position I am in, in my career 3-5 years sooner, just given how slow things seemingly moved at times, and the rhetoric of my company. But I also think that doesn't mean I did not have the opportunity to get there, I think there are things I could have done to be better to get there sooner, and it's possible achieve that success earlier could have left me in a different place entirely, probably better, but maybe worse. Sometimes I'm annoyed by it, but I myself had to take accountability, pull myself up by the bootstraps, and get myself there, in spite of a seeming preference for diversifying demographics. **I also don't know for a fact that it is true. This is just me reflecting on myself within the conservative frame. It's not that other people needed to pull themselves up, but I needed to, an internal locus of control is really important to not blame others for your problems. (yes understand the hypocrisy of me telling you not to blame others, when you feel like they are taking every opportunity to blame people like you, but you can only control yourself)
I think it's fair for people to at least show you understanding, but they need you to reciprocate and understand that you are opining for a society that works worse for 65% of people in favor of 35%.
Suggesting “the kids are worst than the attendants” in reference to Residential Schools, especially basing it on the unrelated experience of 4 year old told 83 years later, is one of the most ignorant, insane things I’ve ever read.
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I look around today, and wonder whether the world is getting any better.
Are you a white male? Becuase for a lot of society, the world has gotten better, though it may not always look like it. Hell, 50% of humanity is female, and there is no way it's not better than when they couldn't even open a bank account without their husband's blessing. So for at least half of human kind, it has by most measure improved drastically. It also used to be extremely looked down upon to not be religious, and now we've cast off that decriminalization. Not forcing people to participate in make believe is kind of a big deal.
By what measure are you not sure the world is better? Because by almost every measure of what is happening in the US, they are getting WAY worse by reverting a lot of progress than had been made in individual freedoms, and it's so obvious it shouldn't even need explanation. But maybe it does?
He literally said “the example from last time”. And Heinz says yes it’s true last time.
Must be a slow news day.
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I look around today, and wonder whether the world is getting any better.
So what was the best time to be alive in your view then? When you were a kid it was virtually impossible to succeed in the private sector unless you were a white man, and you witnessed the civil rights movement first hand. You were in your late 20's when the last racially segregated school closed in Canada, and I'm sure you must have watched the Watts and Rodney King riots on TV. You were witness to the AIDS epidemic in the 80's and saw how vilified the LGBTQ community was. And hell as a kid I vividly remember the torture and murder of Matthew Shepard, just because he was gay. So tell me, at what point in the last 80 years were we better off as a society?
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Most voters understand there’s a difference between making spending cuts to address fiscal challenges and making spending cuts as an ideological commitment to smaller government.
Jesus Christ. Me reading Cliff's posts in the last few weeks...
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1. The overuse of the concept, "diversity, equity and inclusion" in the hiring process e.g. universities, critically important positions
"The entire point of DEI is to make sure the most qualified people get the jobs. DEI is about making sure minorities and women get a chance to show they are the most qualified for the job, rather than a white guy hiring another white guy. Anyone who says they are against DEI because they think the job should go to the most qualified person, is just explaining that they don't understand the concept."
If that is what was happening, I would be all for it. However, I have witnessed the opposite.
In the 1980s PET and the Liberals decided that there should be more French Canadians in the RCMP. MY BIL, a very high ranking RCMP officer, charged with promoting senior officers, revealed to me how orders were given as to how that was to be carried out.
Officers were to be chosen, on an annual basis, in the following order, 1. a French Canadian, 2. a bilingual member, and 3. an English member. All officers were routinely tested annually, and in when it came time to choose a
French Canadian member, he was forced to choose someone who stood 50th in the list of those who were tested.
So I think you can see that the best person was not always chosen. And we all know what has happened with the RCMP over the years.
Also, if it is done to give women the advantage, it is worth noting that in the Universities, women are often over-represented in some of the professions, e.g. medicine, teaching
Are we doing anecdotes now? My aunts got chased out of multiple RCMP posts because they are a gay couple and got the #### bullied out of them.
Covid broke a lot of brains, and not all of them were on the right.
There was sound data from the earliest days of the pandemic (remember, Europe was 4 weeks ahead of N America with every wave) that showed children contracted and spread covid at much lower rates than adults, and much lower rates than they spread colds and flu. Early data also showed that schools were not major vectors of contagion.
That data was ignored by Canadians who spouted ‘common-sense facts’ about kids being filthy spreaders of sickness. These were the same people who said kids are resilient and will bounce back from any interruption to in-class teaching. But we already knew from historical research that many kids do not bounce back from interruptions in learning, and that even a few weeks of learning loss can have permanent impacts on educational outcomes. Which is why child welfare advocates implored authorities to keep in-person schools open at all costs. Their pleas largely fell on deaf ears.
Once the pandemic became politicized, angry and frightened people of all political alignments ignored any science that didn’t fit their preferred narrative.
Cliff, I would agree with you if that was all there was to it. Unfortunately, even though kids didn't generally suffer from symptoms, they could still spread COVID to others and represented a risk to immunocompromised folks (like their teachers who were mandated back to work).
My my, looks like I struck quite the cord with you last night with such a childish response.
Funny how some of the furthest left slanted posters on this forum (almost like you could call them the usuals) thanked your post.
Not really. One of my most shameful hobbies is showing up here, wasted, at 2 AM, and seeing that your posts are still much more ####ing stupid than mine.
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All because I questioned your slant on CliffFletcher's position to claim he was a CPC supporter?
That's....uh...not what I claimed there, champ. Despite the differences we've had, I feel like Cliff would agree that I've never assumed his political leanings beyond his dogmatic beliefs in the power of liberalism (we can both disagree on the panacea, but I don't think I'm misrepresenting his views. Cliff, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
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They have more policies I agree to than I disagree to. I've never liked the social branch of conservatism and have always seen it as a giant anchor, but I've always voted based on the overall picture with very rarely a single issue swaying my vote. If the Liberals truly are moving back to the right fiscally under Carney, they become a choice again for moderates who don't like the CPC being socially regressive (though by your past talk its quite apparent you think he and Liberals are also part of the problem). The federal NDP is not a serious party and the polls agree with me (Carney criticized the far left in his leadership bid speech).
So what you're saying is that you disagree with socially regressive views, but they're not a deal-breaker for you? Super cool.
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Despite that, I do not believe the CPC is fascist and the rhetoric surrounding has been over the top (this does not mean we should ignore what they say or don't say).
That's fine. Agree to disagree. However, PP did just hold a "Canada First" rally. If you think Trump is a fascist (he is), he held an very fascist "America First" rally. Is that not problematic for you? Even if you don't think PP is a fascist, he certainly appears to be aping a fascist leader, right?
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You however are over the top against anything even remotely right of your own views. You have a very long history of claiming conservatives have an agenda well before MAGA ever became a thing.
Not really. I have a long history of trying to accurately defining what leftism is, whether you agree with those view or not.
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You think Liberals are center right.
They are. If you look at things from a political theory definition, there is very little that you can point to about the federal liberals that coincides with socialist ideology. Do you have some quotes from Marx, Lenin, etc., that you would like to share to prove the contrary?
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You think Democrats / Biden are corporatist neoliberals lap dogs.
Again...they are. What makes the Democrats and Biden leftists in the traditional and theoretical sense?
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You think Singh is somehow centrist. Everyone is right of you when you are so far on the left end.
Has Singh advocated for nationalizing resources, banking, and seizing the means of production? He has massively disappointed as an advocate for unions and workers rights. He defends the capitalist system in general. By definition, that makes him centre to centre-right.
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You obviously haven't checked PPs background. Also, there is no hope in hell of that passing in Canada. We are not the US run by a person like Trump.
This is such a wild take. "Listen, it doesn't matter that there are a bunch of psychopaths who want to dictate a woman's right to choose and whether trans people should be allowed to exist. It'll never pass."
Just hear me out for a second...what if we just don't even provide the opportunity for theocratic fascists to enact their policies?
Would that not be a better option than giving them the power and just hoping for the best? Especially when the leader of the party has outright said he would use the NWC if the courts block him?
I do not have kids, but I hope y'all who have daughters, sisters, etc., seriously consider what supporting this party puts them at risk of. Even if you think that risk iess than 1%, why would you take that chance and embolden these ####ing lunatics?
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Covid broke a lot of brains, and not all of them were on the right.
There was sound data from the earliest days of the pandemic (remember, Europe was 4 weeks ahead of N America with every wave) that showed children contracted and spread covid at much lower rates than adults, and much lower rates than they spread colds and flu. Early data also showed that schools were not major vectors of contagion.
That data was ignored by Canadians who spouted ‘common-sense facts’ about kids being filthy spreaders of sickness. These were the same people who said kids are resilient and will bounce back from any interruption to in-class teaching. But we already knew from historical research that many kids do not bounce back from interruptions in learning, and that even a few weeks of learning loss can have permanent impacts on educational outcomes. Which is why child welfare advocates implored authorities to keep in-person schools open at all costs. Their pleas largely fell on deaf ears.
Once the pandemic became politicized, angry and frightened people of all political alignments ignored any science that didn’t fit their preferred narrative.
Kind of agree with Cliff here. If we were following the science, we would have been upgrading HVAC and air purification in schools and public places. It is definitely easier (somehow) to keep it to the binary of either lock it all down or complain about lock downs, vaccine mandates, and freedom.
