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Old 02-17-2025, 01:30 PM   #1781
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There have been strong gusts of winds today at YYZ.
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:33 PM   #1782
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Crazy picture of people leaving the upside airplane on CBC. they are saying 1 person in critical condition.
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:37 PM   #1784
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The roads are probably bad still so we could be reading too much into air ambulances responding.

Depends. A lot of the main roads are pretty good, and there's been no snow crews at the airport since 1100 this morning, so the surface shoudl be in pretty decent shape.
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Stunning video of people walking out.
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:43 PM   #1786
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Old 02-17-2025, 01:54 PM   #1787
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I don't know if this is true but one of the talking heads on CNN was saying that the crew may have notified YYZ of an issue ahead of landing because apparently the fire fighting crews were waiting for the plane to touch down.
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CTV saying three people have been flown to the hospital. One passenger was taken to the children's hospital; not sure if that was one of the passengers flown to the hospital.
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I don't know if this is true but one of the talking heads on CNN was saying that the crew may have notified YYZ of an issue ahead of landing because apparently the fire fighting crews were waiting for the plane to touch down.

Entirely possible; the code would have gone out, and the north fire hall is fairly close.
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Winds were 270 degrees 27kt gusting 35kt. I read they landed on rwy 5. Is that a strong cross wind situation?
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Most of the guys I am talking to are assuming some kind of wind shear on landing, which means the tower might be in trouble.
This is an incredibly false statement.
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Winds were 270 degrees 27kt gusting 35kt. I read they landed on rwy 5. Is that a strong cross wind situation?
That can't be correct, if they landed 05 in those winds it would be a crazy strong tailwind component. Were they actually landing 23?

https://bsky.app/profile/flightradar.../3lifosq3olc2t

Edit: yeah, looked on flightradar tracking, they were landing 23. Current winds are 280 25 gust 32 knots, which is a crosswind component of 16 gust 22 knots.

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It’s windy and snowy as #### here today.
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It’s windy and snowy as #### here today.
For the entire day, and this weather has been forecast for days.

To see a post already blaming this on ATC is insane.
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Supposedly from a pilot who witnessed the crash:

“I just witnessed it happen. Delta CRJ struck a wing landing 23 and cartwheeled. Tail and wing separated. Bad crosswinds.”
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That can't be correct, if they landed 05 in those winds it would be a crazy strong tailwind component. Were they actually landing 23?

https://bsky.app/profile/flightradar.../3lifosq3olc2t

Edit: yeah, looked on flightradar tracking, they were landing 23. Current winds are 280 25 gust 32 knots, which is a crosswind component of 16 gust 22 knots.
Wouldn't runway 23 be a tailwind? 5 is the number painted on the NE end of that runway. I thought they would be heading into the wind for landing. I'm probably mixed up on this.
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Wouldn't runway 23 be a tailwind? 5 is the number painted on the NE end of that runway. I thought they would be heading into the wind for landing. I'm probably mixed up on this.
Yup, you're mixed up. 23 is on the NE part of the runway, indicating it is facing 230 degrees.
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It'd be a decent crosswind if they landed 23 or 33L, roughly the same.
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Yup, you're mixed up. 23 is on the NE part of the runway, indicating it is facing 230 degrees.
I had even looked it up on Google Maps and then my brain switched it around. Thanks for clarifying!
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To see a post already blaming this on ATC is insane.

Sorry... got that from one of the emergency response staff... just initial scattered thinking.


Most of the passengers bussed out. Looks like no flight until tomorrow maybe.
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