American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[blender]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

100%. He is completely serious about the annexation of Canada. They want to control the entirety of North America, pushing through Canada, taking over the arctic and annex in Greenland. He had his ilk truly believe that Canada would be better off by being an American state in true American fashion.

This is not new.
This is not Trump's idea.
American business interests have wanted control of Canada literally for ever.
It just being said out loud right now.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Radio

I suppose nothing is out of the realm of possibility with the Great Pumpkin in power. But I would certainly hope that the average American, Trump supporter or otherwise would certainly standup and say "WOAH, WOAH, WOAH enough is enough" and revolt against that sort of ####. I also don't think the rest of our NATO allies and a good portion of the civilized world for that matter would just sit back and watch us get rag dolled.

If anything he'll try to break us economically. I say let them freeze in the dark. There's plenty of other countries to trade with.

I dunno, they are just sitting back while their entire system of government is torn to pieces, and they'll soon be feeling the effect of it. Why would they care about us?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I dunno, they are just sitting back while their entire system of government is torn to pieces, and they'll soon be feeling the effect of it. Why would they care about us?

Canada isn’t much better. Alberta has basically gone through the Trump-lite version of this dismantling and worsening quality of life and has a corrupt, Trump friendly leader and Albertans are doing… nadda.

I think anyone hoping that anyone else will “rise up” is hoping for a miracle at this point.

[blender]

Thr Trump regime would love nothing more than us turning off their power, as there would instantly be an external enemy to distract he populace from their internal strife and unify the country.

[Ped]

People absolutely need to take the annexation talk serious and stop treating Trump like a harmless buffoon. He's a buffoon who controls the most powerful countries in the world, and he's on TV talking about how Ukraine just needs to cede to Russia what Russia illegally invaded and took, and basically saying they should have just let Russia do what they wanted because Russia is more powerful.


And he is now saying Canadians needs his protection because they don't have it from their governor (Trudeau). Same kind of justification Putin used in Ukraine (and South Ossetia, and elsewhere). He openly admires how Putin and other dictators act and he clearly doesn't think it's a problem, and since the entire Republican party has basically turned into Trumpers who do what he says rather than risk blowback, this is a genuine threat whether people want to admit it or not.

[Mr.Coffee]

Why do people keep saying “take it seriously”?

It is being taken seriously. Literally nobody I’ve talked to has said they don’t think he’s serious.

It’s what actions Canadians are willing to take that matters here. Why hasn’t adequate pipeline capacity started to the BC coast? Why haven’t emergency measures been enacted? Like, I’m not joking, digging the expansion capacity should have started Feb 5, the day after the 30 day tariff break. Emergency measures enacted Tuesday and crews mobilized Wednesday. It’s literally this type of urgency needed. Not “well it just takes a long time to build these things! Oh well!” Bull####.

Canadians are looking at leadership who are saying to take it seriously but not acting like it’s a serious threat.

It’s pipes and ramping up armed forces that matter. Everything else is just noise and quite frankly I think way more Canadians are literally okay with becoming American than people on here are willing or want to admit.

Trudeau himself was the one saying Canada is the first post-national state. Okay, well then you’re going to get what you’re asking for if that’s how you really feel.

[Fuzz]

Carney, once leader, needs to immediately shut down their governor and 51st state bull#### at it's first mention. "I am the Prime Minister of Canada, and expect to be treated with the due respect all world leaders offered to their counterparts. We are an independent nation, not a State, and any further use of these terms by US government officials will be met with a door closing in their face until they behave like adults. We will not negotiate with those who can not show us the most basic of respect."

[Puppet Guy]

Article on the CTV website offering another angle on Trump's blathering about Canada:

It’s unclear whether U.S. President Donald Trump is serious about annexing Canada, but essayist and cultural commentator Stephen Marche raises a different question: With the way things are going, does America really have it in them?

“Annexing a country is the work of the state, and they’re in the middle of breaking down their state,” Marche told CTV Your Morning in an interview Thursday.

“If a serious person were attempting to annex Greenland, Canada, the Panama Canal … and the Gaza Strip, the first step probably would not be disbanding the CIA.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article...essayist-says/

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Puppet Guy

Article on the CTV website offering another angle on Trump's blathering about Canada:






https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article...essayist-says/

Sorry did I miss the disbanding of the CIA?

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

A friend texted asking if I think he should sell his two rental houses. He’s worried the U.S. may invade us. I’ll phone him later to calm him down and suggest that an invasion is very unlikely. I hope I’m right.

Tell him to get off social media. It's an empty threat. People are really working themselves up. Exactly what Trump wants, people to be on edge and freaking out about everything he says. It's part of his megalomania. He wants to believe (and is currently effectively doing it for many people who are winding themselves up) his every sentence affects the mind of every person in the world.

Take some time off info-tainment and enjoy your actual lives and the things that you love.

[OldSam]

After listening to Mini-Trump, and the continuation of Fat Donny's rantings, I truly believe they see themselves as rulers of the world. It is a sad time we are in where two incompetent individuals can demand, and expect, capitulation, from anyone and everyone.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Canada isn’t much better. Alberta has basically gone through the Trump-lite version of this dismantling and worsening quality of life and has a corrupt, Trump friendly leader and Albertans are doing… nadda.

I think anyone hoping that anyone else will “rise up” is hoping for a miracle at this point.

UCP is playing right off the Republican play book for many government services. Demonize, defund and privatize. They are doing it with AHS and will continue on.

The problem is, we have no effective opposition in this Province anymore. NDP seem rudderless, as the Democrats are. We need more effective candidates to step up to the plate here.

If we wanna rise up, people need to "rise up" and actually get involved in various levels of government. Not just sit at a keyboard and vent into the ether.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Sorry did I miss the disbanding of the CIA?

CIA reportedly offers buyouts to entire workforce in latest Trump-era purge

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...administration

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Why do people keep saying “take it seriously”?

It is being taken seriously. Literally nobody I’ve talked to has said they don’t think he’s serious.

Here’s one person who isn’t taking it seriously. There are a ton of people in the US and Canada not taking it seriously.

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Tell him to get off social media. It's an empty threat. People are really working themselves up. Exactly what Trump wants, people to be on edge and freaking out about everything he says. It's part of his megalomania. He wants to believe (and is currently effectively doing it for many people who are winding themselves up) his every sentence affects the mind of every person in the world.

Take some time off info-tainment and enjoy your actual lives and the things that you love.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Here’s one person who isn’t taking it seriously. There are a ton of people in the US and Canada not taking it seriously.

Canada's Defense Minister said that Trump's annexation is not a real threat.

[Saqe]

So in what kind of trouble is Canada if Trump hits with the tariffs and if you have to spend on defense up to NATO standards? That's what he's really after.

[Julio]

Originally Posted by Saqe

So in what kind of trouble is Canada if Trump hits with the tariffs and if you have to spend on defense up to NATO standards? That's what he's really after.

No it isn't.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...administration

And knowing they will mostly purge democratic sympathetic people who don't want to work for Trump, he will be left with a very loyal base of operatives.

These buyouts are almost a "market-based" loyalty and purity test across all departments.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Here’s one person who isn’t taking it seriously. There are a ton of people in the US and Canada not taking it seriously.

Honest question, what does "taking it seriously" mean to you? Sit and stew and stress over something you cannot change?

I can "take it seriously" without letting it affect my mental space. All I am advocating for is for people to not get worked up about it. This kind of talk is not out of the realm of normal for Trump. He did the same thing with Greenland last time he was in office. What happened? Nothing.

Nearly everything he is doing now is similar to what he did last time. He massively destabilized the international balance last time he was in office as well and we all survived. I am sure we will again.

[Harry Lime]

He's already fired the leadership of the FBI, in a purge, and his lackey is one step away from being installed.

The last time he was in power, he brought the judiciary to heel. He is consolidating power in a very scary way, but because he has brought the media oligarchs into the fold, the American people are lollygagged into letting it happen.