The Tariff Thread

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

the only thing that should still be in gallons are aquariums. Not even sure how litres my 90 and 33 gallon tanks are.

And cowboy hats.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Engine09

When the orange rapist rapist refers to "subsidizing" Canada to the amount of $200 billion, isn't this just a trade deficit due to the fact that the US buys way more from Canada than we do from the US? Being as they have 10 times the population.

First off he's a liar, that number is closer to $45 billion for 2024, not $200 billion. I know it's tough to make sense of a rambling lunatic who constantly making things up on the spot, but what am I missing?

That's a big part of it. Rich country with lots of people wants lots of stuff. Slightly less rich country with fewer people wants less stuff. It's why they have a deficit with almost everyone.

Even then, if you take energy out of the equation, the U.S. has a trade surplus with Canada on most other things.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And cowboy hats.

Those dont actually hold 10 gallons...

This does though https://andrewneyer.com/stuff/p/10-gallon-hat

[Cowboy89]

https://electrek.co/2025/02/11/ford-...auto-industry/

From Ford's CEO:

After Trump imposed an extra 25% tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico earlier this month, Ford’s CEO is speaking out, saying the impacts will be devastating, not only for automakers but also for buyers.

Although the tariffs are on hold for now, Farley said the threats are already creating “chaos” and “a lot of costs” for the US auto industry.

During a Wolfe Research investment conference on Tuesday, Ford’s CEO explained that “President Trump has talked a lot about making our US auto industry stronger, bringing more production here, more innovation to the US, and if this administration can achieve that, it would be one of the most signature accomplishments.”

So far, however, “what we’re seeing is a lot of cost and a lot of chaos,” Farley added. Ford is looking for ways to build up inventory in the US to soften the blow of Trump’s tariffs.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The same people arguing we need to not rely on the US also want us to destroy our own industries so we can rely more on the US. I don't believe these are deep thinkers.

The same people arguing that supply management is protecting our food industry are completely ignoring the FACT that our dairy industry literally dumps milk every single day. Thousands and thousands of gallons of it.

Therefore I would assume pro supply management people are very shallow minded thinkers.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

The same people arguing that supply management is protecting our food industry are completely ignoring the FACT that our dairy industry literally dumps milk every single day. Thousands and thousands of gallons of it.

Therefore I would assume pro supply management people are very shallow minded thinkers.

Cool man, you do any research into that or just repeating low IQ tweets you read?

Jacques Lefebvre, CEO of Dairy Farmers of Canada, said in a statement that many of the conclusions in the study are based on “estimates” rather than “robust data.” He said milk surpluses were often linked to supply chain issues, and that the report’s findings require independent validation.
“Milk disposal is not a unique issue to Canada,” said Lefebvre.“Milk is disposed only as a last resort after exploring all other alternatives. This is done in accordance with regulations and the costs are borne by the dairy farmers.”
The study says milk quotas have not properly adjusted to the changing diet of many Canadians — some of whom drink less or no milk in favour of plant-based alternatives.
The authors also acknowledge that it’s difficult to know how much to blame Canada’s dairy supply management system for overproduction, and how much can be attributed to changes in farming practices and shifts in consumer preferences.
“Farmers discard milk for a variety of reasons, such as low market demand, limited processor capacity, presence of antibiotic residues, or damaged farm infrastructure,” they write.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/h...-finds-9665431


Is there room to improve the system? Probably. Maybe concentrate on that.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Engine09

When the orange rapist rapist refers to "subsidizing" Canada to the amount of $200 billion, isn't this just a trade deficit due to the fact that the US buys way more from Canada than we do from the US? Being as they have 10 times the population.

First off he's a liar, that number is closer to $45 billion for 2024, not $200 billion. I know it's tough to make sense of a rambling lunatic who constantly making things up on the spot, but what am I missing?

Surely you’re not suggesting he makes up $h1t on the fly?

[woob]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Are LA prices expensive? Lol. Went down a rabbit hole and apparently if you want to buy some cheap milk, go to cincinnati

Cincinnati has a rat problem. Hopefully their cheap milk isn't due to extra, cheap ingredients

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by woob

Cincinnati has a rat problem. Hopefully their cheap milk isn't due to extra, cheap ingredients

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Cool man, you do any research into that or just repeating low IQ tweets you read?

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/h...-finds-9665431

Is there room to improve the system? Probably. Maybe concentrate on that.

The only research that shows milk being dumped in large quantities involves Sylvain "The Food Professor" Charlebois estimating per-cow production and comparing that to actual yield nationwide, and then assuming that the entire difference was dumped, even though he has no proof that it ever existed to begin with. But that guy has been proven to be a hack with an axe to grind, so I'd take anything he says with a huge grain of salt.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by woob

Cincinnati has a rat problem. Hopefully their cheap milk isn't due to extra, cheap ingredients

Originally Posted by Roughneck

That's it, I'm switching my kids over to Malk if it is significantly cheaper.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

That's it, I'm switching my kids over to Malk if it is significantly cheaper.

Yes, yes...but the real problem is eggs.

You can get eggs from a lot of different animals. I personally prefer Faberge, but you can get Ostrich and...lower...

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Cool man, you do any research into that or just repeating low IQ tweets you read?



https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/h...-finds-9665431


Is there room to improve the system? Probably. Maybe concentrate on that.

lol, the cartel has duped you. Maybe get out of your concrete echo chamber and go visit a dairy farm and ask them?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

lol, the cartel has duped you. Maybe get out of your concrete echo chamber and go visit a dairy farm and ask them?

I assume you have done that, and that anecdotal evidence from one farm is what you have formed your vendetta around?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I assume you have done that, and that anecdotal evidence from one farm is what you have formed your vendetta around?

I have actually visited dairy farms and have many family & friends that work in the industry, and like I said its thousands of liters per day.

Whatever stupidity opendoor is posting talks about hundreds of millions of liters per year, which sounds kinda ridiculous. But it is very well known that it happens, and its serious food waste.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

I have actually visited dairy farms and have many family & friends that work in the industry, and like I said its thousands of liters per day.

Whatever stupidity opendoor is posting talks about hundreds of millions of liters per year, which sounds kinda ridiculous. But it is very well known that it happens, and its serious food waste.

OK, well it sounds like you've got it all figured out and everyone else is a liar or indoctrinated by the dairy cartel. Which, to be fair, is kinda irresistible, what with their cream, and their cheese, and their...cream cheese...

[Azure]

In other words you can't actually present an argument as to why milk dumping, which is a result of supply management, is not a serious issue, so resort to dumb post. Typical.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

In other words you can't actually present an argument as to why milk dumping, which is a result of supply management, is not a serious issue, so resort to dumb post. Typical.

I did post an argument, along with Opendoor. You could have considered those things, even proposed solutions. But it seems you just want to be angry and open up the market to American profiteers.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I did post an argument, along with Opendoor. You could have considered those things, even proposed solutions. But it seems you just want to be angry and open up the market to American profiteers.

Why subsidize and protect the dairy industry and not others? Genuine question.

I work in manufacturing and we don't get subsidies. We have to compete with American companies, but I don't think those American companies are 'profiteering' off Canadian customers because genuine competition exists.

I'd rather see genuine competition in the dairy industry to reduce the insane waste and inefficiencies, and ultimately lower prices for consumers.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Why subsidize and protect the dairy industry and not others? Genuine question.

I work in manufacturing and we don't get subsidies. We have to compete with American companies, but I don't think those American companies are 'profiteering' off Canadian customers because genuine competition exists.

I'd rather see genuine competition in the dairy industry to reduce the insane waste and inefficiencies, and ultimately lower prices for consumers.

It’s not a fair competition as US agriculture is heavily subsidized ranging from direct payments to cheap crop insurance and it extends into the dairy sector as well. Milk dumping happens in the US as well and there are also systems in place to support minimum pricing. So your baseline is competition against subsidized farms.