Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Azure]

I mean its hard to take Liberal supporters serious anymore. Literally anything the Liberals do is acceptable, while everything the PCs do is seen as socially regressive and Trumpish.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Well his first task is to get elected as leader of the Liberal party. And no, I don't think he'll say whatever it takes to get elected. Some people still have principles, which I suspect he will stick to, given his history.



I know you are used to seeing Conservative all politicians do and say whatever it takes to claim power, and assume all politicians behave the same, but not everyone is THAT morally bankrupt. I haven't seen any indication Carney is.

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[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Well his first task is to get elected as leader of the Liberal party. And no, I don't think he'll say whatever it takes to get elected. Some people still have principles, which I suspect he will stick to, given his history.



I know you are used to seeing Conservative politicians do and say whatever it takes to claim power, and assume all politicians behave the same, but not everyone is THAT morally bankrupt. I haven't seen any indication Carney is.

Didn’t Carney say the only problem with the carbon tax is that it wasn’t priced high enough? Now he is moving away from the carbon tax, to a “different” carbon tax.

Loved the carbon tax, but saying something different? To get votes?

[Azure]

The only reason the carbon tax is bad is because we want to feed our families first! If we would stop feeding our families we would see the tax as proper and good!

[Fuzz]

And that there is the problem. You have all convinced yourselves that the worst people you support are representations of all people. Both sides. Everyone is awful. No good choices. Can't trust anything. But then someone comes along who is, lets face it, a new politician(not even elected yet, does that even count?) and all you can do is tar them with the same brush.


How many times have people called for a decent normal person with expertise and real world experience to enter politics? It's exactly what people demand, and then instead of any benefit of the doubt, this is the response. Maybe we deserve the lying trash we have...


Elect The Chud.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And that there is the problem. You have all convinced yourselves that the worst people you support are representations of all people. Both sides. Everyone is awful. No good choices. Can't trust anything. But then someone comes along who is, lets face it, a new politician(not even elected yet, does that even count?) and all you can do is tar them with the same brush.


How many times have people called for a decent normal person with expertise and real world experience to enter politics? It's exactly what people demand, and then instead of any benefit of the doubt, this is the response. Maybe we deserve the lying trash we have...


Elect The Chud.

Except in this case we have years of interviews, Published works from him, and track record with the liberal government already in power. Then want to act like all those things have not occurred and hes been responsible for all the good things thats happened none of the bad. Not to mention all the ties to all the Liberal elites.



Ill vote for the Chud

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to say Carney has a better resume than PP. However, you forgot that PP is also pro-business, and he doesn't carry any of the negative baggage that Carney has in his long association with, and as an influencer of, Trudeau.

All you have to do is look at where Canada is today, and do you want the same thing, then vote Carney.

Did you just leave out the fact mini-maga is antivax antiscience and supported an illegal convoy in Ottawa?

I guess the Fevers were part of the convoy.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Except in this case we have years of interviews, Published works from him, and track record with the liberal government already in power. Then want to act like all those things have not occurred and hes been responsible for all the good things thats happened none of the bad. Not to mention all the ties to all the Liberal elites.

Ill vote for the Chud

And in all that history do you see him behaving in way that looks to crave power and say whatever he needs to to get it? Because that was the original assertion I'm disputing.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And that there is the problem. You have all convinced yourselves that the worst people you support are representations of all people. Both sides. Everyone is awful. No good choices. Can't trust anything. But then someone comes along who is, lets face it, a new politician(not even elected yet, does that even count?) and all you can do is tar them with the same brush.


How many times have people called for a decent normal person with expertise and real world experience to enter politics? It's exactly what people demand, and then instead of any benefit of the doubt, this is the response. Maybe we deserve the lying trash we have...


Elect The Chud.

Yes, voters have been calling for an outsider like you say but Carney can only call himself an outsider from the standpoint of not having been an elected representative. He is deeply routed in Trudeau's Liberal government through various advisory roles, task forces, etc. Trudeau was looking to make him the Finance Minister prior to everything caving in on them. Trudeau's right hand man, Gerald Butts, is now looking after Carney's campaign. It all reeks of being the same turd from the same pile.

Good on ya though if you think you are getting an outsider and someone different in Carney.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Azure

I mean its hard to take Liberal supporters serious anymore. Literally anything the Liberals do is acceptable, while everything the PCs do is seen as socially regressive and Trumpish.

This is pretty much true of any political party, not just the liberals.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Azure

I mean its hard to take Liberal supporters serious anymore. Literally anything the Liberals do is acceptable, while everything the PCs do is seen as socially regressive and Trumpish.

Point of order, there are no "PC"s anymore. The CPC is not the PC party, it is mostly a continuation of the alliance. Certainly their current policy slate is a pretty wide departure from typical PC policy of the past. Also, the people involved are all alliance people and not old PC people.

PC is an old term and does not accurately describe, in any way, the Canadian Conservative Party of Pierre Poilievre.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Point of order, there are no "PC"s anymore. The CPC is not the PC party, it is mostly a continuation of the alliance. Certainly their current policy slate is a pretty wide departure from typical PC policy of the past. Also, the people involved are all alliance people and not old PC people.

PC is an old term and does not accurately describe, in any way, the Canadian Conservative Party of Pierre Poilievre.

The Wild Manning Rose Reform Party of Canada. WMRRPOC

[Johnny Makarov]

I must have too much Elon Nazi on my mind. Every time I see HitterD in the thread I think it's HitlerD....

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I must have too much Elon Nazi on my mind. Every time I see HitterD in the thread I think it's HitlerD....

Why am I not surprised that the Liberal voter sees Hitler in his sleep.

Did nazi that coming.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I must have too much Elon Nazi on my mind. Every time I see HitterD in the thread I think it's HitlerD....

Not the first time i've heard this..... is this a common issue for you guys?

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

How many times have people called for a decent normal person with expertise and real world experience to enter politics? It's exactly what people demand, and then instead of any benefit of the doubt, this is the response. Maybe we deserve the lying trash we have...

Wow I didn't know you hated Trudeau that much

BTW we had Erin O'Toole in 2021 available as a choice who was a career lawyer and veteran that meets your criteria.

Carney's credentials aren't questioned, it's the outsider part that is. Not like it matters much at this point as current Canadian priorities have shifted and that isn't playing much of a role (neither is the Just like Trudeau campaign that's failing)

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Yes, voters have been calling for an outsider like you say but Carney can only call himself an outsider from the standpoint of not having been an elected representative. He is deeply routed in Trudeau's Liberal government through various advisory roles, task forces, etc. Trudeau was looking to make him the Finance Minister prior to everything caving in on them. Trudeau's right hand man, Gerald Butts, is now looking after Carney's campaign. It all reeks of being the same turd from the same pile.

Good on ya though if you think you are getting an outsider and someone different in Carney.

Nothing screams outsider like a 20-year career politician and former cabinet minister under Harper.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Wow I didn't know you hated Trudeau that much

BTW we had Erin O'Toole in 2021 available as a choice who was a career lawyer and veteran that meets your criteria.

And Erin was fine until he folded to the social regressive wing of the party. Which is why voters rejected him. Try to keep up.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And Erin was fine until he folded to the social regressive wing of the party. Which is why voters rejected him. Try to keep up.

Everything is the fault of Liberals and Liberal voters according to the party of personal responsibility.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

And Erin was fine until he folded to the social regressive wing of the party. Which is why voters rejected him. Try to keep up.

I guess you made your choice…..

https://twitter.com/user/status/1439772089771335681

Now you have to dill with it.