What should Huska do after the break?

[gvitaly]

What do you guys think about potentially trying Bahl with Weegar?

Bahl - Weegar
Solovyov - Andersson
Bean - Pachal

I just thought that Bahl - Andersson got gradually worse as the season went on, and Bahl - Weegar could be a pretty good shut down pairing.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Bingo

To me it's about 5 on 5 minutes.

If Backlund is playing shot down he's getting 14.

That leaves you 33 for Kadri, Zary and Frost ... 11 each?

Assuming it’s 47 minutes of 5-on-5, I would try splitting it like this:

12 minutes: Huberdeau-Kadri-Posposil
12 minutes: Klapka-Zary-Coronato
11.5 minutes: Farabee-Frost-Sharangovich
11.5 minutes: Hunt-Backlund-Coleman

But it could vary game to game based on powerplays/penalty kills. Roll lines pretty evenly 5-on-5. Don’t really see any of those lines as getting caved in on advanced stats often. The line with the least defensive strength is likely the Kadri line - which is the scoring line anyways so that’s not uncommon.

I don’t see much of a disadvantage to these lines. The Kadri-Huberdeau chemistry is maintained. The Backlund-Coleman chemistry is maintained but less reliant on creating offence. Sharangovich has looked better playing with Frost than anyone else his year. The team could really use an offensive spark and I think putting Zary and Coronato together has the best chance of creating one with the current roster. Before his injury, I think most would agree that Zary and Coronato were the forwards that were creating the most scoring chances. Why not try them together? They look good on powerplays together.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Assuming it’s 47 minutes of 5-on-5, I would try splitting it like this:

12 minutes: Huberdeau-Kadri-Posposil
12 minutes: Klapka-Zary-Coronato
11.5 minutes: Farabee-Frost-Sharangovich
11.5 minutes: Hunt-Backlund-Coleman

But it could vary game to game based on powerplays/penalty kills. Roll lines pretty evenly 5-on-5. Don’t really see any of those lines as getting caved in on advanced stats often. The line with the least defensive strength is likely the Kadri line - which is the scoring line anyways so that’s not uncommon.

I don’t see much of a disadvantage to these lines. The Kadri-Huberdeau chemistry is maintained. The Backlund-Coleman chemistry is maintained but less reliant on creating offence. Sharangovich has looked better playing with Frost than anyone else his year. The team could really use an offensive spark and I think putting Zary and Coronato together has the best chance of creating one with the current roster. Before his injury, I think most would agree that Zary and Coronato were the forwards that were creating the most scoring chances. Why not try them together? They look good on powerplays together.

I think the biggest disadvantage is the drop in 3-4 minutes for your top six (best players).

Do that and their production rates usually take a hit.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Klapka-Zary-Coronato

The team has two right-shot forwards, and you plan to play them together?

That's... bold.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

The team has two right-shot forwards, and you plan to play them together?

That's... bold.

Klapka also isn’t that good

[Locke]

I understand that he's considering taking up sky-diving.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by heep223

Why? Legitimately wondering. The AHL is a top pro league and I would think it would be tougher travel and road trips, and way less creature comforts in between.

Preparation levels. The NHL is a different beast, and daily preparation is significantly more than in the AHL. It is much more of a grind, mentally.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

To me it's about 5 on 5 minutes.

If Backlund is playing shot down he's getting 14.

That leaves you 33 for Kadri, Zary and Frost ... 11 each?

No law that says that has to be the case. Give Backlund 10 minutes, with short shifts in a shut down role, and no double shifts (the other guys can fill in some)

10 minutes + PK for Backlund, and he should be more effective than he is right now, getting 15

[Locke]

Sources report that Huska's Skeleture has proven to be ideal for wing-suit flying and that Red Bull is trying to coax him away to pursue Extreme Sports as a Career option.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

The team has two right-shot forwards, and you plan to play them together?

That's... bold.

Not too worried about that but really it’s more important for pairings to be made for the core of each line. The 2nd winger on each line could be switched around if it feels like it is a weakness. These are the pairings I’m looking for after the break and I’d like to see given at least 4 games together:

Kadri-Huberdeau
Zary-Coronato
Frost-Sharangovich
Backlund-Coleman

That leaves Posposil, Klapka, Farabee and Hunt/Lomberg to be distributed throughout the lineup. Klapka was my first thought with Zary and Coronato because it’s something we have not seen before and because I think he has more to give when he has the opportunity to play with skilled players. But I’d be open to trying Farabee or Posposil there as well.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No law that says that has to be the case. Give Backlund 10 minutes, with short shifts in a shut down role, and no double shifts (the other guys can fill in some)

10 minutes + PK for Backlund, and he should be more effective than he is right now, getting 15

I'm saying as long as he deserves it ... and until he doesn't.

Right now he centers the fourth best line in the league (300 minutes) when it comes to xGA60.

You don't let 4-5 minutes of elite opposition rough over you with him on the bench.

[Enoch Root]

We need to base decisions on more than a single stat that is impacted by 10 players at a time. Not to mention that its effectiveness at measuring anything, is far from certain. And even if we do accept it at face value, that stat doesn't really tell us anything about whether he should be getting more or less ice time.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

We need to base decisions on more than a single stat that is impacted by 10 players at a time. Not to mention that its effectiveness at measuring anything, is far from certain. And even if we do accept it at face value, that stat doesn't really tell us anything about whether he should be getting more or less ice time.

The stat will improve, but as it stands it's not all that scary.

A home plate is drawn.

Shots against from within it have more scoring value than shots from outside it (don't think any hockey fan or analyst would argue with that).

Then it's classified as high danger if shots in that agreed upon more dangerous area come off a pass, deflection or a tip (still think we can agree).

Then these events are counted.

I want a player on the ice that has a low count over years on those dangerous things against.

Mikael Backlund always has had a great count on those instances, and he still does.

He's not fly by night.

In the last three seasons he's number one for the Flames in xGA60 at 2.32/60. This year he's at 2.26.

Bad things don't happen as frequently when he's on the ice.

Shut down center.

[Locke]

I hear he's looking at taking up competitive Parcheesi.

He's gotta tone down the language though, it startles the other competitors.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The stat will improve, but as it stands it's not all that scary.

A home plate is drawn.

Shots against from within it have more scoring value than shots from outside it (don't think any hockey fan or analyst would argue with that).

Then it's classified as high danger if shots in that agreed upon more dangerous area come off a pass, deflection or a tip (still think we can agree).

Then these events are counted.

I want a player on the ice that has a low count over years on those dangerous things against.

Mikael Backlund always has had a great count on those instances, and he still does.

He's not fly by night.

In the last three seasons he's number one for the Flames in xGA60 at 2.32/60. This year he's at 2.26.

Bad things don't happen as frequently when he's on the ice.

Shut down center.

Every discussion is the same: you quote a stat, and you accept the stat as is. You admit they aren't perfect, but your argument begins and ends with the stat anyway.

I look at the results of the stats, and there is little correlation between who the stat says are the best defensive players and who actually are. So forgive me if I don't simply accept them as proof of anything.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Every discussion is the same: you quote a stat, and you accept the stat as is. You admit they aren't perfect, but your argument begins and ends with the stat anyway.

I look at the results of the stats, and there is little correlation between who the stat says are the best defensive players and who actually are. So forgive me if I don't simply accept them as proof of anything.

What part of my summary of the stat do you have a problem with?

I've already said Backlund should be on the fourth line when he no longer deserves to be the shut down center.

I happen to think that's not now, and a pretty basic counting stat backs that up.

Not sure what the issue is to be honest.

And yeah I love having a stat that backs up what I'm seeing. I went 20 years in illogical BS arguments with Lanny on this site with nothing to look to prove an obvious take wrong.

[Locke]

His build is apparently ideal for Interior Pipeline inspection work so rumours abound that Edwards is going to re-assign him.

Thanks Huska! Good luck!

[GioforPM]

Backlund is visibly slowing down offensively. But I haven't seen evidence his defence is worse. The lines constantly trapped in their own end are Kadri's line (but they make it up on offence) and the 4th line (this is a huge issue this year).

[SuperMatt18]

The 4th line has been a black hole this year.

Rooney On ice: 7 GF - 16 GA, -9 , 39.0% xGF
Team without Rooney: 80 GF - 75 GA, +5, 50.7% xGF

And looking at our other centers at 5v5:

Kadri: 23 GF - 28 GA, -5, 49.6% xGF
Backlund: 24 GF - 21 GA, +3, 53.4% xGF

Backlund remains the best play driving center on this team...he's struggled the last 10 games or so but the rumour is he's also playing injured. (2 GF - 7 GA, 48.6% xGF in the last 10 games).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The 4th line has been a black hole this year.

Rooney On ice: 7 GF - 16 GA, -9 , 39.0% xGF
Team without Rooney: 80 GF - 75 GA, +5, 50.7% xGF

And looking at our other centers at 5v5:

Kadri: 23 GF - 28 GA, -5, 49.6% xGF
Backlund: 24 GF - 21 GA, +3, 53.4% xGF

Backlund remains the best play driving center on this team...he's struggled the last 10 games or so but the rumour is he's also playing injured. (2 GF - 7 GA, 48.6% xGF in the last 10 games).

A little misleading - team without Rooney on the ice is largely made up of lines 1-3. He's never played once on those lines that I can think of. I bet you can do a simiular stat for Lomberg. Rooney has very poor stats, but so do all the 4th line regulars except Costco (and his were a small sample).

They should probably rethink that line entirely. I need them to at least do no harm, and right now they are being exploited.