Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by Azure

So much for this not actually being a major problem.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1888203337532666168

Remember when this guy used clips from a movie and claimed it was CCTV footage of a super secret spy meeting in Macau?

https://www.thecanadafiles.com/artic...curity-footage

Forgive if anyone takes this with a grain of sal until it comes from someone else.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The reason the Liberals are the default governing party of Canada is because they’re adept at tacking with the political winds. They move left when they feel the NDP are a threat, and move right to counter the Conservatives. The Liberals don’t have any strong political convictions besides doing whatever they believe is most likely to get them elected.

Except they are too reactionary and slow. By they time they get around to acting the issue is a full blown disaster.

[Doctorfever]

Well the Liberals promised an open and transparent government. They couldn’t come through with that. So plan B is an open and translucent government. Their supporters think it’s close enough, let’s give it another go!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Well the Liberals promised an open and transparent government. They couldn’t come through with that. So plan B is an open and translucent government. Their supporters think it’s close enough, let’s give it another go!

Oh Canada!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by clifffletcher

the reason the liberals are the default governing party of canada is because they’re adept at tacking with the political winds. They move left when they feel the ndp are a threat, and move right to counter the conservatives. The liberals don’t have any strong political convictions besides doing whatever they believe is most likely to get them elected.

100%

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The reason the Liberals are the default governing party of Canada is because they’re adept at tacking with the political winds. They move left when they feel the NDP are a threat, and move right to counter the Conservatives. The Liberals don’t have any strong political convictions besides doing whatever they believe is most likely to get them elected.

I would say except for fighting climate change, which has been heavily influenced by Trudeau's best friend, Butts, who has never been elected, and who has directed his campaigns. The thing the Liberals neglected to realize is when you hog tie our energy industry with burdensome legislation e.g. C-69, it stifles investment to further develop our resources. The question then comes, where do we get the money to improve our military and healthcare system, which are both badly in need of our immediate attention. All this of course becomes more blatantly obvious with the impending tariffs, which has a lot to do with the present sudden reversal in policy by the Liberals.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I would say except for fighting climate change, which has been heavily influenced by Trudeau's best friend, Butts, who has never been elected, and who has directed his campaigns. The thing the Liberals neglected to realize is when you hog tie our energy industry with burdensome legislation e.g. C-69, it stifles investment to further develop our resources. The question then comes, where do we get the money to improve our military and healthcare system, which are both badly in need of our immediate attention. All this of course becomes more blatantly obvious with the impending tariffs, which has a lot to do with the present sudden reversal in policy by the Liberals.

Interesting thesis.





https://energynow.ca/2023/08/canada-...-in-two-years/


Maybe if we cut taxes for the wealthy we can afford more health care.

[2Stonedbirds]

That has nothing to do with investment.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

That has nothing to do with investment.

Did you read the rest of the bold? I know it's Sunday, but it's not that much more effort.

[2Stonedbirds]

Furthermore, has nothing to do with developing our resources. Your own source cites operations streamlining and efficiencies to current infrastructure as being the reasons for the uptick in overall production. Hell, it even cites the slowdown as being attributed to bottlenecks in TMX.

Cool.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Interesting thesis.





https://energynow.ca/2023/08/canada-...-in-two-years/


Maybe if we cut taxes for the wealthy we can afford more health care.

Maybe if got behind our LNG industry sooner, the s*** we buy from China would be cleaner, because it would be made with our LNG instead of coal. Also, we would be sharing some of the money the US is making in being the world's largest exporter of LNG.

[Ryan Coke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Interesting thesis.





https://energynow.ca/2023/08/canada-...-in-two-years/


Maybe if we cut taxes for the wealthy we can afford more health care.

The world is doing great, there’s more people than ever!

There’s nothing wrong with health care, people are living longer than ever!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Maybe if got behind our LNG industry sooner, the s*** we buy from China would be cleaner, because it would be made with our LNG instead of coal. Also, we would be sharing some of the money the US is making in being the world's largest exporter of LNG.

China's expansion of green energy supplies is going to contribute far more to the environment than the small amounts we'd be able to send over. By the time it gets there, the excess emissions and leakage are going to make it better than coal, but not a lot.



It's always hilarious seeing these arguments, as if you guys actually care about the environment, and not just selling more O&G.

[2Stonedbirds]

Yes Fuzz, you are the authority on morality. As shown by your incoherent, unrelated arguments that inevitably lead to blaming the rich and/or large and faceless as some sort of gotcha moment thus proving your infallibility as the moral superior.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The Liberals are stealing all the conservative talking points now that an election is around the corner. They want to axe the tax, develop resources, spend on defense and reduce government spending, waste and size. Does anyone actually believe this sudden 180?


https://financialpost.com/news/lebla...overnment-size

In fairness the conservatives under PP never said they would spend on national defence. And under Harper spending on national defence hit all time lows as a percentage of GDP. The conservatives have never supported the military so that is not something that the Liberals stole from the Conservatives. Conservatives are generally against supporting our troops.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's always hilarious seeing these arguments, as if you guys actually care about the environment, and not just selling more O&G.

The fact is we care about both the environment and our energy industry. A lot has been done to make our oil and gas production cleaner. Have you ever looked at the difference between flaring in the US vs Canada? In addition, we are aware that by not to capitalizing on our strengths i.e. selling our resources, and relying too heavily on the US as our trading partner, we have jeopardized our ability to adequately fund our military and healthcare.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

The fact is we care about both the environment and our energy industry. A lot has been done to make our oil and gas some of the cleanest in the world. Have you never looked at the difference between flaring in the US vs Canada? In addition, we are aware that by not to capitalizing on our strengths i.e. selling our resources, and relying too heavily on the US as our trading partner, we have jeopardized our ability to adequately fund our military and healthcare.

If we have to depend on O&G to fund healthcare and military, we've already lost.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

The fact is we care about both the environment and our energy industry. A lot has been done to make our oil and gas some of the cleanest in the world. Have you never looked at the difference between flaring in the US vs Canada? In addition, we are aware that by not to capitalizing on our strengths i.e. selling our resources, and relying too heavily on the US as our trading partner, we have jeopardized our ability to adequately fund our military and healthcare.

Yet Carney, who says he’ll do exactly that (capitalizing on our strengths and not relying too heavily on the US), ain’t your man.

Funny.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

If we have to depend on O&G to fund healthcare and military, we've already lost.

Where is the money going to come from then, if not from selling our resources, which is the main reason we enjoy our standard of living today.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yet Carney, who says he’ll do exactly that (capitalizing on our strengths and not relying too heavily on the US), ain’t your man.

Funny.

Well he's one of the greatest Climate Change fighters in the world. I just hope, if he ever gains power, he operates with a lot more common sense than the present Liberals.