[Rumour] LeBrun: Flames remain interested in Cozens despite trading for Frost

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

The usage of grammar in a correct manner is sorely underrated.
Clarity is a rarity.

It drives me frickin' crazy!

Might be the fact my job is to get my point across in written form, and typos or grammar errors diminish my opinion of the argument from the other side, no matter how strong or valid it may be.

(That being said, I am such a Boomer I use full sentences in my texts...)

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The volume of people that plug apostrophes into any plural word is mildly disturbing. It's become a bit of an english epidemic online. Let's remember that apostrophes indicate possession or omitted letters.

And if the word you're plugging it into for possession purposes ends with an 's', you place is after that 's'.

Just think before you play pin the apostrophe on the donkey.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by traptor

I actually think Adam's has made some savvy moves recently in the right direction.
Zucker, Mcleod, Greenway and Byram were all great moves and steps in the right direction.

They need a stabilizer on their D core bad. A Tanev/Ekholm type guy.
They need a solid 1B to split starts 50/50 with him. They're leaning on UPL way to much.
In general they're just too young. They need to add some vet pros into the bottom half of the roster.

It also seems like, for all their rebuilding, they don't have any true gamebreaking talent to make up for the lack of depth. Dahlin is a legit #1 but he doesn't impact the game like Q Hughes or Makar can.
Thompson is legit, but he's not Jack Hughes.
The Sabres are missing Eichel type guy big time.

I actually think the Devils are a good juxtaposition for the Sabres. Rebuilt in a similar time frame. But they got the elite talent. They've filled the rest of the roster with steadier vets.

Dahlin is absolutely as skilled as Hughes and Makar. If he played anywhere else, with even a little bit of cohesive talent and coaching, people would see this.

If Sabres blow it up, and they should, I'd give up any prospect, including Parekh, to get him.

This is the caution about folks focussing on tanking for a superstar; if those superstars are not surrounded by other players that can help, it doesn't matter how good that player is. Edmonton under the nepotism and Chiarelli years is another example of this.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Buffalo's issues continue to implode.

• Rebuild didn't work, trying to pivot but have guys like Cozens signed to big money and not performing up to snuff and now they need the cap space to make further moves
• Constant fear that anyone traded will flourish elsewhere because history has dictated it.
• Coach who's been groomed to be the next GM and seems to have lost the room.
• A GM given way too long of a leash, hasn't made any progress in years despite drafting high
• They've been playing hardball but teams know this, and they are going to continue to lose leverage.

Adam's is all but gone at this point.

I know the Flames are bad trade partners for the Sabres but I keep trying to think how how we can work with a 3rd party to get the job done.

For example:
Predators? Perhaps the Preds want to acquire futures from the Flames and send a vet to the Sabres? (It would be fairly ironic if the vet was ROR.) You would have to think that this season has been a disaster for the Preds and that they would be looking at how to get the rebuild back on track.

Islanders or Rangers? Both teams are climbing out of the basement of this season but you would have to think that they are not happy with how the season is going. But most of their players have NTCs...

Penguins need prospects and/or picks but I can't really see anyone on their roster that would help the Sabres.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Dahlin is absolutely as skilled as Hughes and Makar. If he played anywhere else, with even a little bit of cohesive talent and coaching, people would see this.

If Sabres blow it up, and they should, I'd give up any prospect, including Parekh, to get him.

This is the caution about folks focussing on tanking for a superstar; if those superstars are not surrounded by other players that can help, it doesn't matter how good that player is. Edmonton under the nepotism and Chiarelli years is another example of this.

It's tough though with the Sabres.

I don't look at them top to bottom and think they're a terrible team.
They have alot of young talent. They have some decent veteran role players. They're not as thin as the sharks or blackhawks atleast.

Overall I think they just skew too young and don't have guys properly slotted.
It's probably not a good idea to have your bottom 6 filled with young guys like Krebs, Cozens, Benson and Quinn.

They also seem to have terrible defensive structure.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The volume of people that plug apostrophes into any plural word is mildly disturbing. It's become a bit of an english epidemic online. Let's remember that apostrophes indicate possession or omitted letters.

And if the word you're plugging it into for possession purposes ends with an 's', you place is after that 's'.

Just think before you play pin the apostrophe on the donkey.

Well. If you want to get technical, the apostrophe doesn't actually indicate a possessive. "'s" possessives are a contraction of "his"

So "Adam's job" is a contraction of "Adam his job"

[traptor]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The volume of people that plug apostrophes into any plural word is mildly disturbing. It's become a bit of an eEnglish epidemic online. Let's remember that apostrophes indicate possession or omitted letters.

And if the word you're plugging it into for possession purposes ends with an 's', you place is it after that 's'.

Just think before you play pin the apostrophe on the donkey.

Here you go

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Well. If you want to get technical, the apostrophe doesn't actually indicate a possessive. "'s" possessives are a contraction of "his"

So "Adam's job" is a contraction of "Adam his job"

Maybe you didn't catch where I said "indicates possession or omitted letters"

Omitted letters means contractions.

So you're right, but I didn't exclude that aspect of it.

[scotty2hotty]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Maybe you didn't catch where I said "indicates possession or omitted letters"

Omitted letters means contractions.

So you're right, but I didn't exclude that aspect of it.

Getting pedantic in an argument about grammar. This is getting meta!

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by saillias

The narrative that leaving Buffalo is like a +10 to performance is cherrypicking & lacks context. No one seems to bring up Ristolainen or Mittelstadt, it's always Reinhart & Eichel. You have to differentiate between being brought down by Buffalo, or a guy bringing Buffalo down. For Sabres mgmt to be gunshy about this, wow they are truly lost. If you are scared of moves out of fear like this, yes you should be fired.

This is not emphasized enough.

[PaperBagger'14]

Flames fans interested in Cozens, Oilers fans interested in their cousins.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by scotty2hotty

Getting pedantic in an argument about grammar. This is getting meta!

That is not a complete sentence - it would have been better to go with ... than a period.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Flames fans interested in Cozens, Oilers fans interested in their cousins.

Because they’re so damned attractive!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

It drives me frickin' crazy!

Might be the fact my job is to get my point across in written form, and typos or grammar errors diminish my opinion of the argument from the other side, no matter how strong or valid it may be.

(That being said, I am such a Boomer I use full sentences in my texts...)

Hear, hear!

The problem is that people think forum posts are a form of conversation. They're actually a form of rhetoric. The big functional difference is error correction.

Rhetoric isn't just about moving people's emotions. It's also about making sure they understand your message the first time, because you're not face to face with them and can't hear them go ‘Huh?’ if they don't get it.

Most of the rules of written English (annoying as they are to people who just want to shoot the breeze) are designed to keep the message from getting misinterpreted by accident.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Well. If you want to get technical, the apostrophe doesn't actually indicate a possessive. "'s" possessives are a contraction of "his"

So "Adam's job" is a contraction of "Adam his job"

That's a myth. The possessive S goes back to Old English, and for centuries it was spelled without an apostrophe.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That's a myth. The possessive S goes back to Old English, and for centuries it was spelled without an apostrophe.

Which obviously means that we don't need to use apostrophes, punctuation or proper spelling because it's all going to change over the next 1,000 years anyway.

[dammage79]

Oooo, English class on Community Puck. So which one of you is Abed? And which of you is Chevy Chase?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I think a Cozens trade could feasibly happen with the involvement of a third team.

Something like.. Valued roster player to Buffalo from 3rd party, a second roster player from Calgary to Buffalo and valued future pieces to the 3rd party. Cozens to the Flames. Add swaps of minor pieces and picks to make it work.

Hopefully Conroy is active on the phones and seeing what available avenues there could be.

[Doctorfever]

I would do something like;

Kadri to Colorado ($3mil retained by Calgary)

Mittelstadt and Cozens to Calgary

Buffalo gets Vegas 1st (from Calgary) 1st from Colorado and a 2nd or 3rd from Calgary.

We can afford to eat Kadri salary. If other players develop in a couple years, Mittelstadt can be moved for more futures.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I would do something like;

Kadri to Colorado ($3mil retained by Calgary)

Mittelstadt and Cozens to Calgary

Buffalo gets Vegas 1st (from Calgary) 1st from Colorado and a 2nd or 3rd from Calgary.

We can afford to eat Kadri salary. If other players develop in a couple years, Mittelstadt can be moved for more futures.

Highly doubt Calgary would retain four more years of Kadri at $3m per and Buffalo would want a roster player with upside not just picks, instead of the Vegas first it would likely have to be a young lefty center like Zary or Frost