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Old 02-07-2025, 02:39 PM   #5361
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Why did musk go after USAID

One of Musk's first moves as DOGE chief has been to#dismantle USAID, convincing the Trump administration that the agency is a waste of federal spending and not fit for purpose.

This raises a potential conflict of interest, as Musk's company was under investigation by USAID shortly before he began calling for the shutdown. Starlink's activity in Eastern Europe has been criticized, with many Russian operatives#claiming to have access to Starlink#despite Musk's assurances that only Ukraine was using the service.
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Old 02-07-2025, 02:45 PM   #5362
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I think a lot of these Nazi sympathizers feel that unless there's video of someone loading Jews into a gas chamber they're not actually a Nazi. As already detailed there are a litany of actions that support Nazi ideology by Elon himself, his signal boosting of white supremacist and Nazi accounts, and the physical actions you can see with you own two eyes are not evidence enough for them. They'll cry about a witch-hunt as has been the recent tradition and you'll be left trying to use reason on someone who's unreasonable.

If they're not willing to let evidence inform their opinion you can't be surprised when reason and logic also fail them. This is how they weasel into popular thought and society, trying to create shades of grey to make their abhorrent views more palatable to a wider audience. Sad to see someone fall into that trap.
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Old 02-07-2025, 02:53 PM   #5363
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I'm going to side with Israel (on this issue only) and the US defamation league and say that while not appropriate and awkward it wasn't meant as a Nazi salute.
X or twitter or whatever it is is obligated to follow the law, car makers don't make speed limits, twitter doesn't make the law for what is legal to say and what isn't.
Asking a corporation to decide such things seems like what we are trying to avoid.
Can we just not have nazi apologists on this board?
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Old 02-07-2025, 03:28 PM   #5365
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Just to be clear, you guys think the richest man in the world a Nazi who is going to bring back their ideology of mass executions so the elite can prosper?
And your contribution to stopping this from happening is posting on an obscure website, the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers"?
And anyone who disagrees with calling him a Nazi is a Nazi-apologist, this is George Bush level, you're either with us or against us garbage.
Please tell me you're doing more. At least burn a Tesla, take a stand, do something.
Oh yeah, you cancelled your twitter, problem solved.

And just to be clear I don't really agree with anything Musk is doing, I disagree with his being a called Nazi as I'm going to need a lot more evil committed against humanity before I start agreeing with Nazi.
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Old 02-07-2025, 03:34 PM   #5367
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Can we call him chicken ####er at least?
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Old 02-07-2025, 03:38 PM   #5368
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What makes you think I havent been burning Teslas...I mean I try to but they combust all by themselves most times
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Just to be clear, you guys think the richest man in the world a Nazi who is going to bring back their ideology of mass executions so the elite can prosper?
And your contribution to stopping this from happening is posting on an obscure website, the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers"?
And anyone who disagrees with calling him a Nazi is a Nazi-apologist, this is George Bush level, you're either with us or against us garbage.
Please tell me you're doing more. At least burn a Tesla, take a stand, do something.
Oh yeah, you cancelled your twitter, problem solved.

And just to be clear I don't really agree with anything Musk is doing, I disagree with his being a called Nazi as I'm going to need a lot more evil committed against humanity before I start agreeing with Nazi.
What evidence would you need to see, because it's probably out there. What's the thing that would make you go "ok, ya, he's a nazi"? I am actually curious, because I personally struggle to see how it people can't recognize that, but maybe my "ya, he's a nazi" bar is lower than most? I dunno, you tell me.
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I will say, "go burn a Tesla, do something" is not something I expected to read in this thread today.
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I had forgotten about this as well. Musk knows how to throw his heart to a crowd. This is Elon throwing his heart.





This is Elon throwing a Nazi salute:






I presume there will be no further questions.
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What evidence would you need to see, because it's probably out there. What's the thing that would make you go "ok, ya, he's a nazi"? I am actually curious, because I personally struggle to see how it people can't recognize that, but maybe my "ya, he's a nazi" bar is lower than most? I dunno, you tell me.
My guess is that you couldn't even get him to admit Hitler had Nazi tendencies. The heart wants what the heart wants
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My guess is that you couldn't even get him to admit Hitler had Nazi tendencies. The heart wants what the heart wants
Oh god, big leap there.
I’ll wait for Israel, they’d have to agree with you right?
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Just to be clear, you guys think the richest man in the world a Nazi who is going to bring back their ideology of mass executions so the elite can prosper?
And your contribution to stopping this from happening is posting on an obscure website, the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers"?
And anyone who disagrees with calling him a Nazi is a Nazi-apologist, this is George Bush level, you're either with us or against us garbage.
Please tell me you're doing more. At least burn a Tesla, take a stand, do something.
Oh yeah, you cancelled your twitter, problem solved.

And just to be clear I don't really agree with anything Musk is doing, I disagree with his being a called Nazi as I'm going to need a lot more evil committed against humanity before I start agreeing with Nazi.
Fight the good fight....bro?.....
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Can we call him chicken ####er at least?
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I honestly can't see a Tesla on the road now and not think that the person driving it is a fascist ######. I know that probably isn't fair to a lot of people who bought in before Musk got involved with politics and Twitter, but the brand is completely ruined for me.
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Old 02-07-2025, 04:33 PM   #5377
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I think a lot of these Nazi sympathizers feel that unless there's video of someone loading Jews into a gas chamber they're not actually a Nazi.

Even then there would be defenders. Humanity is both sad and terrible.
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Old 02-07-2025, 04:44 PM   #5378
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Elon let White Supremacist and Nazis run wild on his platform. He’s repeatedly engaged with and retweeted accounts associated with the above then he went full on Nazi salute. The mask fell off a long time ago.
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Oh god, big leap there.
I’ll wait for Israel, they’d have to agree with you right?
If we call him a nazi sympathizer who advocates for and promotes white nationalists directly and indirectly and uses nazi gestures would that satisfy you and allow you to end this courageous fight against anyone without a swastika tattooed on their chest being called a nazi?

And just to be clear, people who disagreed weren’t called nazi apologists. Nazi apologists were called nazi apologists.
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Even then there would be defenders. Humanity is both sad and terrible.
Icantwhisper: “Sorry, I’ll wait until Israel personally sends me a video of them releasing the gas before I’m willing to call anyone a Nazi. Death is quick, but words can hurt for a long time.”
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