American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Rhett44]

I'm seeing a lot of people that have the attitude that Trump is just trolling everyone, and not to take anything seriously. I keep hearing "Trumps troll game is so great, anything to make the democrats upset!".

At what point do people start taking him seriously as a threat? I am not suggesting he is on Hitlers level right now, but if you look at history some of the similarities from the beginning of Hitler taking power genuinely frighten me.

I really think some people need to take their head out of the sand. And the last time he was in power, I did not have these thoughts. This time, he has gone senile and I don't know if he wants world power, or wants to go out with a bang, but some of the things he has done in just 2 weeks is scary.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I'm seeing a lot of people that have the attitude that Trump is just trolling everyone, and not to take anything seriously. I keep hearing "Trumps troll game is so great, anything to make the democrats upset!".

At what point do people start taking him seriously as a threat? I am not suggesting he is on Hitlers level right now, but if you look at history some of the similarities from the beginning of Hitler taking power genuinely frighten me.

I really think some people need to take their head out of the sand. And the last time he was in power, I did not have these thoughts. This time, he has gone senile and I don't know if he wants world power, or wants to go out with a bang, but some of the things he has done in just 2 weeks is scary.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-...ter-rcna190901

I continue to think not nearly enough people are paying attention to this.

I know there is historic president for using Guantanamo for a similar purpose, but I think there is a huge difference between setting up a refugee operation to process a mass migration intercepted in international waters at a giver period of time and detaining stateless people on stateless land. I also think it should be noted that isn't a bright spot, and pointing to it as justifications for taking more extreme action with seemingly more ill intent is just the frustrating whataboutism that leads us to predictable results.

First you find somewhere to send the people you want to deport, but have no where to go, then you run out of space, then you find creative ways to make space. First you send people who do not have a credible claim to any state, then you send the people you just wish weren't citizens of your state.

I think it's possible and likely this doesn't explicitly turn into a concentration camp, but I also think the risk is high enough that more people keeping their eyes on it is a good idea. Once we get to concentration camps the comparisons start to look a little more prescient, it would be great if we were wrong.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I'm seeing a lot of people that have the attitude that Trump is just trolling everyone, and not to take anything seriously. I keep hearing "Trumps troll game is so great, anything to make the democrats upset!".

At what point do people start taking him seriously as a threat? I am not suggesting he is on Hitlers level right now, but if you look at history some of the similarities from the beginning of Hitler taking power genuinely frighten me.

I really think some people need to take their head out of the sand. And the last time he was in power, I did not have these thoughts. This time, he has gone senile and I don't know if he wants world power, or wants to go out with a bang, but some of the things he has done in just 2 weeks is scary.

I keep thinking of this book that I highly recommend - the wave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(novel)

Tldr: a novel based on a true story where a high school teacher conducts an experiment to demonstrate the power of fascism, resulting in unintended consequences as the students become dangerously obedient and authoritative. The story explores the ease with which ordinary people can be swayed by powerful group dynamics and social pressures.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I'm seeing a lot of people that have the attitude that Trump is just trolling everyone, and not to take anything seriously. I keep hearing "Trumps troll game is so great, anything to make the democrats upset!".

At what point do people start taking him seriously as a threat? I am not suggesting he is on Hitlers level right now, but if you look at history some of the similarities from the beginning of Hitler taking power genuinely frighten me.

I really think some people need to take their head out of the sand. And the last time he was in power, I did not have these thoughts. This time, he has gone senile and I don't know if he wants world power, or wants to go out with a bang, but some of the things he has done in just 2 weeks is scary.

He passed an executive order that literally erases trans persons from established nomenclature.

The guy is entirely twitterpated with the concept of people like Hitler and Putin. It's a fair comparison.

[direwolf]

It's hard to see a path forward where the U.S. can come back from this. I guess if the Dems win big in the mid-terms, they could at least put a check on the Trump administration's more fascist/insane policies. But just looking at the amount of damage that Trump and Musk have done in just two weeks, will they even have mid-terms in 2026? Or even a fair election in 2028? It's highly doubtful at this point. It's incredibly sad and terrifying to watch, but it's looking like America is now past the point of no return.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by direwolf

It's hard to see a path forward where the U.S. can come back from this. I guess if the Dems win big in the mid-terms, they could at least put a check on the Trump administration's more fascist/insane policies. But just looking at the amount of damage that Trump and Musk have done in just two weeks, will they even have mid-terms in 2026? Or even a fair election in 2028? It's highly doubtful at this point. It's incredibly sad and terrifying to watch, but it's looking like America is now past the point of no return.

You don’t enjoy watching democrats do absolutely #### all about this? No action. No legislation. A faint whiff of lawsuit maybe.

It's disgusting and their compliance along with their tacit approval of these actions shows the unserious people they are. That a single vote has been cast for a confirmation nominee is pathetic.

[SutterBrother]

Lot of Twitter users making a great deal about America's descent into fascism...

...but still using Twitter...

(spoiler alert - you're part of the problem)

[Monahammer]

Alberta is the sudetentland.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I'm seeing a lot of people that have the attitude that Trump is just trolling everyone, and not to take anything seriously. I keep hearing "Trumps troll game is so great, anything to make the democrats upset!".

This is my annoyance too. Even if you ignore the existential threat that Trump is, and moreso what's going on behind him in the shadows with Musk and others systematically destroying the rights and freedoms of Americans... why are people okay for the POTUS, the most important position on Earth, wasting time 'trolling'? Do these people do this in their daily jobs as well - ignoring their work just to pee in the water cooler and think they won't get caught? Don't supporters want him to start making real, effective, positive change for them? It's like these people have decided to submit all their remaining brain cells to the morgue, just... 'cause.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by MrButtons

I keep thinking of this book that I highly recommend - the wave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(novel)

Tldr: a novel based on a true story where a high school teacher conducts an experiment to demonstrate the power of fascism, resulting in unintended consequences as the students become dangerously obedient and authoritative. The story explores the ease with which ordinary people can be swayed by powerful group dynamics and social pressures.

I’d be interested in that book but it’s described as teen novel. Would it be of interest to an adult?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Ped

People are collectively stupid.


"Hey, this guy that did terrible things his first term, and promised he would do terrible things this term, is doing terrible things! But he doesn't have a weird laugh, and he's a rich white guy! How could we ever have seen it coming?

It's not stupidity, its malicious. "I feel like I have been wronged and I want other people to suffer."

[Puppet Guy]

This sounds like a FANTASTIC idea:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would create a White House faith office and direct Attorney General Pam Bondi to lead a task force on eradicating what he called anti-Christian bias within the federal government.

“The mission of this task force will be to immediately hold all forms of anti-Christian targeting and discrimination within the federal government, including at the DOJ, which was absolutely terrible, the IRS, the FBI and other agencies,” Trump said in remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast.

https://www.cp24.com/news/world/2025...hristian-bias/

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Puppet Guy

This sounds like a FANTASTIC idea:




https://www.cp24.com/news/world/2025...hristian-bias/

Oh yeah. That doesnt sound insane at all.

Um...didnt the original settlers leave Britain to escape their puritanical ways?

Asking for a friend...

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh yeah. That doesnt sound insane at all.

Um...didnt the original settlers leave Britain to escape their puritanical ways?

Asking for a friend...

Sorry, you'll have to be educated outside America to learn about America.

[TheIronMaiden]

An Anti Christian Bias in the USA, the most fundamentalist evangelical Christian country in the world?

[Drak]

Weaponizing religion. Trump isn’t a Christian. Nothing about him, is Christian.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh yeah. That doesnt sound insane at all.

Um...didnt the original settlers leave Britain to escape their puritanical ways?

Asking for a friend...

Uh, no, they were puritans and felt they couldn't practice their faith in Britain. That religious zealotry has been a common through-line in most of America's history. It's also why there was clear language in the constitution that separated institutions of political office form institutions of faith. It's been tested before and failed, and it will fail this time only if the courts uphold the constitution.

I feel like we're in for a weekly constitutional crisis for the next 4 years.

[belsarius]

What frightens me is how Godwin's Law is now used as a proxy to the Boy who cried wolf. We have been so conditioned to see any mention of Hitler or Nazi's on the internet to mean an overreaction, many have lost the ability to see the truth happening before their eyes. There are too many excuses of how it is not happening exactly like in the 1930s, how Hitler was a monster and it is unfair to say someone like Trump can be as evil, or how the republicans can be as evil as the Nazis. But completely forgetting the lessons learned, the fact that it wasn't 1944 Nazis in the beginning, and we can't conflate how WW2 ended with how the rise of fascism began.

The total disregard for the rule of law when it comes to Musk and his team of youthful sycophants. The disregard for the sovereignty of other nations. The disregard for human rights, to the point of dehumanizing that we are seeing.

On this message board, most people are seeing the issues, but the frightening part is how many social media platforms have a message of discarding any of the evidence and are fine to cheer him on. It keeps me up at night wondering how today feels and how close it is to how the Austrians, or the Poles or the Chezchs must have felt in 1933..

[Muta]

Extreme right-wing Christian nationalism developing right before our eyes, just as Project 2025 said it would do. Remember, Trump said he had no connection to Project 2025 lol.

[dammage79]

Now we wait for the SS. Or is that I.C.E?

It's all coming together. I sincerely pray Americans wake up from this dream and nip it in the bud before this gets far too out of reach.