Israel declares war on Hamas

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

I said this in the USA thread but I'll repeat it here.

I truly believe Israel should send the Palestineans to Europe as refugees.

Ironically, Europe can't say no because of what the Nazis did to the Jews in WW2.

It's the perfect plan—guilt trip those Europeans into taking a bunch of unwanted Palestineans.

None of this makes any sense, unless you have some other stuff about yourself you want to share.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

I have grown up in a country which had 27 millions killed by Germans. I belong to an ethnicity which Germans officially wanted to exterminate and they did it to 2/3rds of it before they were stopped. As a child, I have personally spoke with people, including my Jewish USSR soldier grandpa, who went through the war. This Friday I'm flying to Germany. No, not to blow them up. For a work trip.

This whole "next generation of avengers" thing is blown out of proportion, if not entirely made up. One would need to seriously brainwash people to go for it. It takes a huge money flow, to create a bunch of suicidal avengers. Unless totally brainwashed, people just don't go on suicide bombing missions because one nation did some horrible things to your nation.

At least you can knowledge this. The rest you are still wrong about, as I have shown you time and time again.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

None of this makes any sense, unless you have some other stuff about yourself you want to share.

Didn't basically every European country turn their back on the Jews during WW2? No one wanted the Jews and it ended up with a bunch of them getting exterminated by the Nazis.

So after the war "never again will we turn our backs on refugees" and the UN adopts the declaration of human rights.

Now the Jews have a golden opportunity to exploit this. No one wants the Palestinians but Europe can't say no to the Palestinian refugees because of European guilt from the 2nd world war. It's perfect.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Didn't basically every European country turn their back on the Jews during WW2? No one wanted the Jews and it ended up with a bunch of them getting exterminated by the Nazis.

So after the war "never again will we turn our backs on refugees" and the UN adopts the declaration of human rights.

Now the Jews have a golden opportunity to exploit this. No one wants the Palestinians but Europe can't say no to the Palestinian refugees because of European guilt from the 2nd world war. It's perfect.

OK, so your solution is to violate the human rights of millions of people and ship them off because the Israeli government have bombed the #### outa them, want to steal their land, and have some sort of punch card in Europe they are going to claim? Do you understand how insane this makes you sound? Do you have any humanity, or are people just pawns to be tossed around the globe when beach front property looks appealing?


And just a reminder, they were there first. They are the ones being treated unjustly. Israel has zero right to the land(and the US, as well, since I guess that now needs to be said).

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

OK, so your solution is to violate the human rights of millions of people and ship them off because the Israeli government have bombed the #### outa them, want to steal their land, and have some sort of punch card in Europe they are going to claim? Do you understand how insane this makes you sound? Do you have any humanity, or are people just pawns to be tossed around the globe when beach front property looks appealing?


And just a reminder, they were there first. They are the ones being treated unjustly. Israel has zero right to the land(and the US, as well, since I guess that now needs to be said).

This isn't MY solution dude. If you want to call someone insane for having this plan, direct those words to the Jews who came up with it.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Zoller

This isn't MY solution dude. If you want to call someone insane for having this plan, direct those words to the Jews who came up with it.

You literally just called it a "perfect" plan two posts up. In reality it is a stupid plan that can't work.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

You literally just called it a "perfect" plan two posts up. In reality it is a stupid plan that can't work.

What do you mean? Europe has already taken in millions of middle eastern refugees because of Netenyahu sponsored wars in the middle east. It's BEEN working

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

This isn't MY solution dude. If you want to call someone insane for having this plan, direct those words to the Jews who came up with it.

Well you presented it as your own idea and called it perfect. So how would you expect anyone with a brain top interpret that? If it is someone else's idea that you are condemning, maybe share where you got it from? This is the first I've ever seen this mentioned.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Zoller

What do you mean? Europe has already taken in millions of middle eastern refugees because of Netenyahu sponsored wars in the middle east. It's BEEN working

Well, if Trump ,and the US try to do what he is suggesting, I suspect we will see quickly and in real time why it wont work.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

...This is the first I've ever seen this mentioned.

I don't believe you.

Forgive me as it's my first time venturing into this section of the forum, but you don't strike me as the uninformed type.

There are millions of middle eastern refugees in Europe RIGHT NOW.

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

Well, if Trump ,and the US try to do what he is suggesting, I suspect we will see quickly and in real time why it wont work.

The UN would have to rip up or amend the declaration of human rights. Europe is already accepting millions of refugees from Netenyahu sponsored wars. It does work and it's BEEN working for DECADES.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

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Now the Jews have a golden opportunity to exploit this. No one wants the Palestinians but Europe can't say no to the Palestinian refugees because of European guilt from the 2nd world war. It's perfect.

This is what I'm referring to. No one has ever mentioned this as an idea, at least around here. Again, did you come up with this, or read it somewhere? And by "this" I mean Israel forcibly moving Palestinians from their land into Europe. I don't mean individuals having enough and choosing refugee over whatever #### they are suffering through. I mean Israel doing it by plan.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Now the Jews have a golden opportunity to exploit this. No one wants the Palestinians but Europe can't say no to the Palestinian refugees because of European guilt from the 2nd world war. It's perfect.

What about all the Jews that were forced out of places like Morocco, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and so on? Should they have to take on Gazans because of guilt?

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

This is what I'm referring to. No one has ever mentioned this as an idea, at least around here. Again, did you come up with this, or read it somewhere? And by "this" I mean Israel forcibly moving Palestinians from their land into Europe. I don't mean individuals having enough and choosing refugee over whatever #### they are suffering through. I mean Israel doing it by plan.

Oh I see. I'm just using Europe as an example because they have ALREADY taken in so many Middle Eastern refugees from Netanyahu sponsored wars.

Really, it could be any country that has signed the declaration of human rights. I think even Canada has taken in quite a few refugees.

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

What about all the Jews that were forced out of places like Morocco, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and so on? Should they have to take on Gazans because of guilt?

Nah bro, the Jews get a free pass because of the Holocaust.

In all seriousness, if Israel is willing to deal with the consequences of it's actions, who are we to tell them what they can and can't do?

As long as they have USA support, they are probably fine. But there may come a day when Israel's increasingly tarnished reputation catches up with them. Look at South Africa; it took decades of international condemnation, sanctions and loss of funding before its collapse. The playbook is there, it might just be a matter of time.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Nah bro, the Jews get a free pass because of the Holocaust.

In all seriousness, if Israel is willing to deal with the consequences of it's actions, who are we to tell them what they can and can't do?

As long as they have USA support, they are probably fine. But there may come a day when Israel's increasingly tarnished reputation catches up with them. Look at South Africa; it took decades of international condemnation, sanctions and loss of funding before its collapse. The playbook is there, it might just be a matter of time.

Uh, they don't own Gaza or the West Bank. It's not theirs to decide what can and can't be done. "Who are we" is the rest of humanity, which I'd hope would look out for Canadians should we be threatened to be treated the same.

[Zoller]

That reminds me. Has Egypt signed the declaration of human rights?

I wonder if bibi could force Trump to force Egypt to take them.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Zoller

That reminds me. Has Egypt signed the declaration of human rights?

I wonder if bibi could force Trump to force Egypt to take them.

Man, you just don't stop. How about Trump and Bibi #### the hell off and stop making plans to take their land? Why are you so determined to find a way for this to happen?

[Zoller]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Man, you just don't stop. How about Trump and Bibi #### the hell off and stop making plans to take their land? Why are you so determined to find a way for this to happen?

It's not ME man, I don't personally support ANY of this.

[Fuzz]

You might want to work on your delivery, then.

[Harry Lime]

Sending 1.5m muslims to non-muslim countries, with no real preparation for either side of that equation, seems like a really bad idea.