The Tariff Thread

[getbak]

Canada's new Fentanyl Czar protecting the border...

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by butterfly

They'll call an election before Mark Carney has a coronation.

We don't have time for that at all. Like I said at this point, The Liberal's need to either acclaim Carney which is what's happening anyways. or suspend the leadership race and state that Trudeau stays PM til the maximum length of term.



A agreement is made between the 4 major parties, Libs, Cons, Bloq and NDP, to pass a throne speech that includes these required changes and the spending required. Then have the next major confidence vote at a later time.



I hate to say it, but we don't have time for this leadership race, and we don't have time for a 30 day election cycle.


Get this #### done first.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Here's how this plays out


Things go sideways within days because both sides will see some real hurt in some loud constituencies.

After 4 or 5 days both sides will claim some sort of pyrrhic victory. Trump claiming he got Canada to agree to something they didn't but no one will follow up. Canada will claim they showed resolve and will continue to strengthen their partnership with their most important ally.

Some longer term unknowable crap implications will continue to affect some vulnerable sectors and the news will shift to something else that destroys Western cohesion

It took no real experience or foresight, but here's how I saw it on Saturday

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The best one can hope for is that Trump comes out and pretends that the border steps that Canada already took are something he just gained, and then declares victory and does the same as he just did with Mexico.

When I'm right, I'm right.

[Jiggy_12]

Fentanyl Czar is the actual name? hahaha

we are literally dealing with a 9 year old

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by tony-soprano

December 17, 2024 lol.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safe...on-system.html

even better, we had to concede even less and still got the positive outcome. Looks like some additional provisions for cartels and other organized crime and off we go.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Fentanyl Czar is the actual name? hahaha

we are literally dealing with a 9 year old

Harris was a border Czar, its just a term.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

We don't have time for that at all. Like I said at this point, The Liberal's need to either acclaim Carney which is what's happening anyways. or suspend the leadership race and state that Trudeau stays PM til the maximum length of term.



A agreement is made between the 4 major parties, Libs, Cons, Bloq and NDP, to pass a throne speech that includes these required changes and the spending required. Then have the next major confidence vote at a later time.



I hate to say it, but we don't have time for this leadership race, and we don't have time for a 30 day election cycle.


Get this #### done first.

I don't disagree with you at all, but it seems like party before country is the standard these days.

[TheScorpion]

You just know that "Fentanyl Czar" was the exact wording that Trump used on the phone. "I like that word, why don't you have a 'Fentanyl Czar', why don't we have one, and it walks up and down the border all day"

[Kipperriffic]

Trump is such a sleazebag "business"man. The man just wants optics of looking like someone who makes the "deals" and wins. While in the process he causes Canadians to actually wake up, even if a little bit, to keep an eye out for diversifying trade and buying more Canadian products.

Low IQ Maga will be satisfied and thats all he wants praise. Which is fine , I am glad Trudeau tweeted a response, which is basically what Canada had planned back in December.

what a nuisance Trump is.

[Locke]

What? It cost him nothing.

It cost Drumpf absolutely nothing. He got concessions for making threats and stomping his feet like a toddler in a supermarket.

He got something for nothing and yet still holds both countries by the balls.

He's kind of like a Drug Dealer. The first one is typically free. Lets see what he asks for in 30 days.

[the-rasta-masta]

The border stuff makes me laugh. I always have more trouble coming back from the US with the Canadian Border officials, than I do with the US Border officials when entering the States.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by #-3

It doesn't matter because it wouldn't happen, but Canada is not governable as a single entity in that fashion. 10 Provinces larger don't become 1 state, even if this were a conversations that's not the way the math works.

It's funny because if that happened, Alberta would be ruled by Ontario for the most part. States have a lot more domestic power than provinces. So if it was one state, the governor would be elected by the whole of Canada - no Danielle, and the stae leg would be dominated by the east.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Locke

What? It cost him nothing.

It cost Drumpf absolutely nothing. He got concessions for making threats and stomping his feet like a toddler in a supermarket.

He got something for nothing and yet still holds both countries by the balls.

He's kind of like a Drug Dealer. The first one is typically free. Lets see what he asks for in 30 days.

What did he get? The stuff Trudeau committed to will benefit Canadians almost exclusively.

[V]

I'm hopeful that it didn't cost him nothing. Best case scenario this results in stronger trade relations with other countries, greater sovereign grip over natural resources, and lower dependence on the US. None of that is good for the US.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Canada’s commitment today is not notably different than what it was a week ago.

Canada just agreed to spend 1.3 billion dollars on border security to protect itself from American guns something something outbound fentanyl








- December 17th, 2024

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It's all part of making a puppet state.

It's much more economically beneficial to just bullying a country to adopt policies you want than actually making them a state or territory. All the benefits of having a territory without the burden and complication of actually bringing million of people into the body politic.

Canada has always been a vassal state of the US, along with the other countries in the west even though people don't like to admit it.

[getbak]

I didn't realize the use of the word "Czar" for people who oversee certain US government policies dates back to FDR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_branch_czars

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Locke

What? It cost him nothing.

It cost Drumpf absolutely nothing. He got concessions for making threats and stomping his feet like a toddler in a supermarket.

He got something for nothing and yet still holds both countries by the balls.

He's kind of like a Drug Dealer. The first one is typically free. Lets see what he asks for in 30 days.

There are no real concessions by Canada here. What he really got was (a) a surge in popularity for the Liberals in Canada, (b) a spanking by the markets, (c) the reality of his idiocy bared for a while. This was a blow to his image.

[Rhett44]

Trump can claim this as a win, and his brainless base will eat it up. But his behavior the past week will do irreversible damage to his economy with the push for Canadians to buy local. And also now both countries will be looking to expand their trade and become less reliant on the USA.

I still don't trust this guy at all. Every 30 days is going to be a new threat with Trump demanding more. And he's already stated numerous times that he doesn't think Canada should be a country.

It's only been 2 weeks, plenty of time for him to do crazier things...