The Tariff Thread

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by BigThief

100% he found out about the bank thing Sunday morning.

Which makes me wonder if that's the next easter egg he's alluding to pushing. Canadian banks that do business south of the border, if they'll be pushed out.

[FlameyMcFlameFace]

Originally Posted by Locke

We should have started doing this 30 years ago.

We should be energy independent.

When COVID happened we had to procure vaccines. You know what? Because of historical nonsense and some hurt feelings, Cuba made their own vaccine.

We couldnt do that.

Trump stole PPE supplies destined for Canada for America.

When he says 'America First' he means it.

Why cant we make our own PPE?

We have been reliant on others, largely the USA, for so long its like we dont know any other way.

And, frankly, I think if one were to go to a Psychologist and ask them to analyze Canada as a person? I dont think we'd like the answer.

And its not Harper's fault or Trudeau's fault or Singh's fault or....whoever, Elizabeth May? Although she hasnt helped much its also not her fault.

Its all of our faults. And it has been for a long time.

In the immortal words spoken in Full Metal Jacket..."Its a giant #### sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

Ok well guess what, we didn't do any of that. I agree to your points, but again, we didn't do those things we should have. So are we going to continue beating that drum like we always do? How about we do our typical Canadian thing and start fighting each other for next couple of years of what we SHOULD HAVE done. Lets make it even more typical Canadian and go debate about it in our House of Commons and blame this party, that party, should have done this should have done this.

Point is, we didn't do jack ####. That attitude hasn't helped us clearly. So how about we start thinking of ways to better ourselves right now and for the future instead of this toxic Canadian behaviours of constantly living in the damn past. Im sick of it. These comments are a waste of breath and time. You're stating the obvious. Give me solutions how it doesn't happen again and we can improve starting tomorrow. Change this damn outright pathetic, sorry for ourselves mentality and starting doing something.

[BigThief]

Oh good, sentence paragraph rant.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Which makes me wonder if that's the next easter egg he's alluding to pushing. Canadian banks that do business south of the border, if they'll be pushed out.

That TD Bank money laundering case in the US probably doesn't help very much. They were fined $1.8B late last year.

[WideReceiver]

I think this 51st-state crap is a ruse. He’d never make Canada a state. We’d be a territory like Puerto Rico. He’d steal our resources and abandon us in all meaningful ways.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

I think this 51st-state crap is a ruse. He’d never make Canada a state. We’d be a territory like Puerto Rico. He’d steal our resources and abandon us in all meaningful ways.

Exactly

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlameyMcFlameFace

Ok well guess what, we didn't do any of that. I agree to your points, but again, we didn't do those things we should have. So are we going to continue beating that drum like we always do? How about we do our typical Canadian thing and start fighting each other for next couple of years of what we SHOULD HAVE done. Lets make it even more typical Canadian and go debate about it in our House of Commons and blame this party, that party, should have done this should have done this.

Point is, we didn't do jack ####. That attitude hasn't helped us clearly. So how about we start thinking of ways to better ourselves right now and for the future instead of this toxic Canadian behaviours of constantly living in the damn past. Im sick of it. These comments are a waste of breath and time. You're stating the obvious. Give me solutions how it doesn't happen again and we can improve starting tomorrow. Change this damn outright pathetic, sorry for ourselves mentality and starting doing something.

I'd love to.

But we have designed a system and a society that is so heavily bureaucratic that large Capital projects are a rarity and...we dont get along. That kind of enmity doesn't disappear overnight.

I hope, I truly do, that this lights a uniting fire under Canadian asses! I'm just not optimistic about it.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Oh good, sentence paragraph rant.

Oh good. More BS from the peanut gallery. That was a really useful post, trying to get your count up?

[PepsiFree]

Because vague, whimsical claptrap attempting to dress itself up as something erudite is so useful.

Maybe “use” isn’t the measuring contest we all want to get into.

[Playfair]

Trump agrees to pause tariffs on Mexico, but import taxes still in place for Canada

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. President Donald Trump held off Monday on his tariff threats against Mexico for one month of further negotiations after Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum agreed to send 10,000 members of her country’s national guard to the border to address drug trafficking

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business...ce-for-canada/

Canada misunderstood
White House says Canada has 'misunderstood' tariff order as a trade war, Mexico is 'serious' - https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/white-house-mexico-is-serious-canada-appears-have-misunderstood-trumps-executive-2025-02-03/

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Because vague, whimsical claptrap attempting to dress itself up as something erudite is so useful.

Maybe “use” isn’t the measuring contest we all want to get into.

Spoiler for size

Spoiler!

[direwolf]

Trump this morning: "I look at some of these trade deals and I say, who the hell made these deals?"

You did, you dumb f***.

Also, he once again reiterated that Canada should become the 51st state.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Spoiler for size

Spoiler!

Just because Fuzz isn’t here doesn’t mean you have to find someone new to glom on to.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Trump this morning: "I look at some of these trade deals and I say, who the hell made these deals?"

You did, you dumb f***.

Also, he once again reiterated that Canada should become the 51st state.

Trump needs to expire.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Trump this morning: "I look at some of these trade deals and I say, who the hell made these deals?"

You did, you dumb f***.

Also, he once again reiterated that Canada should become the 51st state.

I'm still chuckling at this...but man, you needed an exclamation mark there.

[Manhattanboy]

Trump cannot stand Trudeau plain and simple. It’s personal.

[scotty2hotty]

I'm inclined to believe that's a part of all this as well.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Trump cannot stand Trudeau plain and simple. It’s personal.

Do you think that is a positive or negative? I obviously don't want actions against Canada because of it, but I'm not sure that I want the PM cozying up to Trump either.

[Mr.Coffee]

Okay so quick check but I’m seeing Canada’s NATO spend as about 1.37% GDP or roughly 34B. They want us at 2% which is a little over $50B. Delta of like $16B let’s call it.

Meanwhile the tariff threat according to Financial Post is supposed to entirely wipe out GDP growth forthcoming and cost estimates of 3.4-3.7% GDP (call it $85B).

Not clear anywhere why it takes so long to ramp up spending on defence so not sure on that or why it must take to 2032 the way the feds are saying (I’m sure there’s some reason just not sure how much of it is bull####).

So if we promise to ramp the $15B spend to avoid $85B hit and actually honour what we actually already committed to anyway, does that get the tariffs removed?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

So if we promise to ramp the $15B spend to avoid $85B hit and actually honour what we actually already committed to anyway, does that get the tariffs removed?

I'd bet my left testicle on "no".