Imagine Trudeau Sr got the NEP going way back when. We'd have that energy corridor today.
But Alberta decided to stick with US oil companies. Today it bit us in the ass.
Seems like the economic policies in the NEP made it a no brainer for Alberta to stick with selling to the US. Price controls, tax increases, revenue sharing, etc. Note that my NEP education is purely based on Wikipedia and memories of people being pretty upset.
Maybe if they stuck with policy to encourage development of infrastructure and resources, and got rid of all the other crap it could have happened.
What would a revamped Canada-Mexico free trade agreement look like that essentially is aimed at by-passing the US altogether?
It should look like the start of the TPP on steroids, it's time to really kick that thing into a Common Market (the old pre EU deal) level of cooperation
Every single American business lobby group, especially ones that supported Trump, are releasing statements against the tariff decision today.
They certainly did. Let's hope that this puts some pressure on the orange dips***, and that at least a couple of his handlers will hopefully realize that these tariffs are a terrible idea.
Corporations and business groups were apoplectic about the tariffs Saturday.
The US Chamber of Commerce slammed the levies, warning they will raise consumer prices. In a statement, the powerful business group acknowledged that Trump is right to focus on securing the border and to fight the illicit flow of fentanyl.
“But the imposition of tariffs under IEEPA is unprecedented, won’t solve these problems, and will only raise prices for American families and upend supply chains,” said John Murphy, senior vice president and head of international at the chamber. “The Chamber will consult with our members, including main street businesses across the country impacted by this move, to determine next steps to prevent economic harm to Americans.”
The Distilled Spirits Council of the US, the Mexican Chamber of the Tequila Industry and Spirits Canada said in a joint statement shared with CNN on Saturday that they are “deeply concerned that U.S. tariffs on imported spirits from Canada and Mexico will significantly harm all three countries.” Last year, the US imported $46 billion of agricultural products from Mexico, according to US Department of Agriculture data. That includes $8.3 billion worth of fresh vegetables, $5.9 billion of beer and $5 billion of distilled spirits.
The energy industry was unsatisfied with the reduced tariffs on Canadian oil, gas and electricity. The American Petroleum Institute, which represents Big Oil and natural gas companies, said in a statement that it wanted to be fully left out of the tariffs. It noted fuel prices would rise on the $14.4 billion of oil and natural gas imported each year from Canada.
“We will continue to work with the Trump administration on full exclusions that protect energy affordability for consumers, expand the nation’s energy advantage and support American jobs,” American Petroleum Institute CEO Mike Sommers said in a statement.
NEMA, which represents the electricity industry, urged the Trump administration to take a more cautious approach to tariffs, noting the electricity and the electronics industries make up a large chunk of America’s imported and exported goods.
Western Growers, which represents farmers, said the tariffs would hurt America’s food producers.
“While we appreciate the border security issues apparently motivating the Trump Administration, rival growers of specialty crops outside of the U.S. will move quickly to seize the new business opportunities created by these tariffs to sell into the Canadian, Mexican and Chinese marketplaces,” its CEO Dave Puglia said in a statement.
Consumer advocacy groups also warned Trump’s plans would raise costs for Americans.
“Tariffs are a tax increase on American households and manufacturers,” National Taxpayers Union President Pete Sepp said in a statement.
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They certainly did. Let's hope that this puts some pressure on the orange dips***, and that at least a couple of his handlers will hopefully realize that these tariffs are a terrible idea.
Someone in the Trump administration needs to show him this. It's explained simply enough that hopefully something actually gets through to that dumbf*** brain of his.
And that's fair, I do buy a lot of frozen since I'm a lazy cook. But I do buy a lot of things like fresh tomatoes and garlic and can sauces, and I do can some fresh fruits when I find a really good deal.
We get a lot of fruit and vegetable produce out of California and out of Florida. the majority of our lettuce, tomatoes and unions come out of the States, Avocados out of South America.
I found this tool from UBC a while ago, but its pretty good at showing where out imported veggies come from
If it wasn't Trump, eventually it be someone else, or some other country. I really hope this is a wake up call to every Canadian that the course of complacency, apathy, and atrophy we've been on the last ten years cannot continue. Please.
10 years? Please list a tally of major east/west energy infrastructure built in the last 20 years. This is a Canadian problem. Not a Liberal, NDP or Conservative problem.
We made energy largely structured to be seen as a provincial benefit rather than a national one. Alberta's own isolationist stance is a huge part of this problem.
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There should be a new CP rule. Anytime a person posts about why Canada can’t do this or that or nothing will work and we have to just live with our d*cks in our hands, you also have to provide an alternate solution or idea that will actually better our situation instead of just explaining why nothing works ever.
Or perhaps when people propose ideas that they think are easy fixes to take our dicks out of their hands they think for the next 30 seconds that this is a 3-5 year plan and does nothing in the immediate term that the discussion is about.
Someone in the Trump administration needs to show him this. It's explained simply enough that hopefully something actually gets through to that dumbf*** brain of his.
You'll need images of Elon's rockets reverse landing superimposed over it to get him to pay attention that long.
Someone in the Trump administration needs to show him this. It's explained simply enough that hopefully something actually gets through to that dumbf*** brain of his.
That's funny even if it's six years old. Pretty sure Ben Stein is a big Trump supporter too. Maybe Scott Adams should create some Dilbert cartoons against tariffs.
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10 years? Please list a tally of major east/west energy infrastructure built in the last 20 years. This is a Canadian problem. Not a Liberal, NDP or Conservative problem.
We made energy largely structured to be seen as a provincial benefit rather than a national one. Alberta's own isolationist stance is a huge part of this problem.
Exactly this. Harper was vehemently anti-pipeline to China for the first 6+ years of his term. He refused to even speak to China until year 4 of his term and only then to try to get them to come to his Olympics after he skipped their Olympics in 2008. He would routinely lecture them on all sorts of woke issues rather than working to diversify Canadian trade. His entire energy strategy was to become completely dependent on the US market. Canadians had to wait until Trudeau came in to finally have a PM who wanted to build a pipeline to get oil to China.
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