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Old 01-30-2025, 03:11 PM   #4781
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Yes, and this is what Danielle Smith doesn't want to do. In reality, Alberta (and Canada) should curtail production, which would hurt the US and force the issue as well.

Trump says he is deciding today whether to put the tariffs in, and whether they'll include oil.
It'll be interesting to see how Smith balances her celebrations of winning with throwing farmers, ranchers, and all of Alberta's other industries under the big stinky diesel bus.
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I'm not an economist but an export tax placed on natural resource revenue will cost the American consumer more would it not, and there really isn't the infrastructure to support any meaningful alternatives. The weird thing about this talk about a trade deficit is that the United States needs many of these products such as oil and energy and while they do have natural resources they are difficult to extract and transport and it would take years to develop the same infrastructure.

Putting the screws to the administration seems like it would damage the Canadian economy but also extract wealth out of the states in the process.
Tariffs, and the retaliatory tariffs will make goods more expensive on both sides of the border for regular folks.

You might be asking yourself "why do this then?" and the answer is that Trump does not care about the consumer. American nor Canadian. Never has. He just enjoys being powerful.
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Old 01-30-2025, 03:34 PM   #4783
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Yes, and this is what Danielle Smith doesn't want to do. In reality, Alberta (and Canada) should curtail production, which would hurt the US and force the issue as well.

Trump says he is deciding today whether to put the tariffs in, and whether they'll include oil.
Obviously they won't include oil - that country has spent trillions of dollars in an attempt to gain access to oil supplies, has cozied up to the worst governments on earth, and has threatened to destroy their protected areas in an attempt to control more oil. When someone is giving it away to them it would be insane to include it on a list of tariffs. I can't help but think that this is their weak part, the fact that they need this resource for their economic heart. They can get by without a lot of what Canada manufactures and exports as there are redundancies, the same can't be said for oil. It has been a symbiotic relationship out of necessity for both parties and that trade deficit that has been touted so much shows how much the United States needs its allies.
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I’ve stopped buying American where there are any reasonable alternatives. It isn’t going to break anybody, but any little things I can do, I will.
Most here detest Facebook but there are several excellent groups pushing Canadian products as alternatives to American. Really good ideas there.
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This is a great example of the difference between trump cultists and old guard politicians. Even an old guard GOP would never propose a bill that's obviously illegal and undermines the very principals of democracy and the constitution. Yet, the magats will roll out any bill they can conceive of and just operate with it enforced until it reaches a Court. And then they've also been stacking benches like mad every chance the get.

I honestly wonder what the US will look like in 2 calendar years.
Check it out - in the US now, nothing, if it serves the president's interest is "obviously illegal".
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Just catching up on things....so today Trump said that the horrific plane crash was caused by DEI policies? Just so I understand, all the problems that these people see are because of people that either coloured, female, or that identify as LGBTQ?
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I'm not an economist but an export tax placed on natural resource revenue will cost the American consumer more would it not, and there really isn't the infrastructure to support any meaningful alternatives. The weird thing about this talk about a trade deficit is that the United States needs many of these products such as oil and energy and while they do have natural resources they are difficult to extract and transport and it would take years to develop the same infrastructure.

Putting the screws to the administration seems like it would damage the Canadian economy but also extract wealth out of the states in the process.
At this point, Trump has whipped up the Magidiots into such a frenzy, I honestly think they don't care about paying more for things and screwing themselves over as long as they can project how their country won by pushing other countries around, and "owning" the libs in general. It's so dumb, but yet here we are.

Tariffs is such an easy concept to understand on why it would make things more expensive, how is it that hard for these people to understand it?
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Old 01-30-2025, 05:21 PM   #4788
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Canada needs to give Trump the easy immigration win he is asking for. If you look at Columbia it cost them nothing economically. So there should be an easy way to get Trump to not impose Tarrifs in exchange for ficticiously meeting his demands.

You do that behind the scenes and publicly you stand ready to retaliate.

If you read the project 2025 stuff for Tarrifs and trade targeting Canada doesn’t make sense. So the handlers of Trump will likely aim him in the correct direction.
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Just catching up on things....so today Trump said that the horrific plane crash was caused by DEI policies? Just so I understand, all the problems that these people see are because of people that either coloured, female, or that identify as LGBTQ?
The FAA has been in shambles for years, near-misses at airports have been skyrocketing.

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Seventeen months before the deadly American Airlines crash in Washington, D.C., an investigation by the New York Times warned of a dangerous increase in — and worrisome underreporting of — near collisions at U.S. airports...
https://people.com/pilots-warned-of-...-crash-8783168

Obviously none of this has anything to do with DEI policies, but unfortunately the documented and tangible decrease in performance of the department gives him an easy scapegoat.
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Just catching up on things....so today Trump said that the horrific plane crash was caused by DEI policies? Just so I understand, all the problems that these people see are because of people that either coloured, female, or that identify as LGBTQ?
Don't forget those with disabilities. Just the ####ing worst. Fire them all!
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I honestly think he's going to be shot and killed anytime soon now.
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This has the full text of Trump's response to the tragic collision.
It's bad enough when a person watches him - it's worse when you try to read it. I have no words to this as a response to a tragedy like this. Sigh

https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/tr...-crash-wash-dc
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lol its all Obama and Biden's fault...even though he is president now and was president for the four years in between. I guess the ONE guy working was a DEI hire? As were the pilots?
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Don't forget those with disabilities. Just the ####ing worst. Fire them all!
Yeh it's not like you can be an ATC in a wheelchair, I mean how are you going to transfer from your wheelchair to the chair you sit in all shift?
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This has the full text of Trump's response to the tragic collision.
It's bad enough when a person watches him - it's worse when you try to read it. I have no words to this as a response to a tragedy like this. Sigh

https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/tr...-crash-wash-dc
He is demented.
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You have one black guy as President and all hell breaks loose after he's gone, no more black presidents! Down with DEI!
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He is demented.
Yeah. Sounds like a speech written by Charlie Kelly
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Fascinating but unsurprising day of senate confirmation hearings. RFK, gabbard and Patel all attempted to distance themselves or disavow or change prior statements they’ve made. Which means one of two things - they were lying back then and were only saying those things to curry favour with certain groups and in doing so helped cause incredible harm to institutions and public trust in them. Or they are lying to the senate now to get the job and stil believe those things.

Either situation should be disqualifying for some of the highest posts in the land, and it won’t be.
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Fascinating but unsurprising day of senate confirmation hearings. RFK, gabbard and Patel all attempted to distance themselves or disavow or change prior statements they’ve made. Which means one of two things - they were lying back then and were only saying those things to curry favour with certain groups and in doing so helped cause incredible harm to institutions and public trust in them. Or they are lying to the senate now to get the job and stil believe those things.

Either situation should be disqualifying for some of the highest posts in the land, and it won’t be.
haha. Trump is trying too hard to create the All-Time Suck List.
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Of course they are lying now, just like the SC nominations lied there asses off. There are no consequences, so why admit anything?
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