American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Cappy

You mean McKinley

https://abcnews.go.com/US/google-map...y?id=118177262

No, I really did mean Denali. That was the point.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

An American contractor asked me with a straight face what I thought about the United States offering to allow Canada to join.

I told him Canadians were unlikely to be willing to trade free Universal Health Care for school shootings.

(I wanna say I read that here somewhere, so thank you)

He replied that there would be a lot of economic advantages, and then asked if it's true Canadians often have lengthy wait times for things like a MRI.

I told him Canada had one of the highest standards of living in the world, and that our healthcare prioritized the most needed cases. I also pointed out that with "cradle to grave" health coverage, Canadians were less likely to allow medical problems to progress (like Cancer) that would eventually kill Americans who either didn't have coverage, or delayed too long out of financial concerns, thereby leaving their families fatherless and destitute and a burden on their communities.

He listened reasonably, and replied that clearly there were varying economic outcomes. I don't mean to paint him with some MAGA brush. He literally just didn't know much about Canada. I suppose that's the case for most Americans.

…. What a ####ing moron.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

An American contractor asked me with a straight face what I thought about the United States offering to allow Canada to join.

I told him Canadians were unlikely to be willing to trade free Universal Health Care for school shootings.

(I wanna say I read that here somewhere, so thank you)

He replied that there would be a lot of economic advantages, and then asked if it's true Canadians often have lengthy wait times for things like a MRI.

I told him Canada had one of the highest standards of living in the world, and that our healthcare prioritized the most needed cases. I also pointed out that with "cradle to grave" health coverage, Canadians were less likely to allow medical problems to progress (like Cancer) that would eventually kill Americans who either didn't have coverage, or delayed too long out of financial concerns, thereby leaving their families fatherless and destitute and a burden on their communities.

He listened reasonably, and replied that clearly there were varying economic outcomes. I don't mean to paint him with some MAGA brush. He literally just didn't know much about Canada. I suppose that's the case for most Americans.

But he does speak Republican and Trump. and if he voted for him he is a deplorable like the rest of them.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Things democrats have done in response:

Schedule an "emergency" virtual caucus meeting. For tomorrow. #resist

The old "only Democrats have agency" thing. So the response to all these outrages are "and what are Dems doing about it" as opposed to people opposing it on their own.

[burn_this_city]

Its gonna be weird buying a GMC Sierra McKinley, feels like it just doesn't have the same cache.

[Fuzz]

The US finally catches up to....Alberta.

Across the country today, medical professionals are maiming and sterilizing a growing number of impressionable children under the radical and false claim that adults can change a child’s sex through a series of irreversible medical interventions. This dangerous trend will be a stain on our Nation’s history, and it must end.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...al-mutilation/


I can't help but read these things in Stephen Colbert's Trump impression voice.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The old "only Democrats have agency" thing. So the response to all these outrages are "and what are Dems doing about it" as opposed to people opposing it on their own.

All too true brother. Just like you’re suggesting I'll be heading downtown with an AR15 soon. That is what you’re suggesting right?

[woob]

I'm on a list now that I clicked on that link, aren't I?

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So far he's:

a. illegally fired Inspectors general;
b. illegally frozen funds already allocated by Congress;
c. fired prosecutors who investigated him
d. started having ICE detaining people and demand papers according to demographic
e. banned trans people from government service and the military
f. removed all military memorabilia regarding racial hisotry (eg Tuskegee airmen)
g. allowed the regular army jurisdiction to arrest immigrants
h. purported to amend the 14th amendment
i. withdrawn from the Paris Treaty
j. issued orders to permitexpropriation of oil lands and drilling in natural preserves.

That’s only by a partial list. I’ll contribute: he’s removed security detail from some former top officials who pissed him off, opening the door for extreme MAGAts who would do them harm.

We could add many more.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1884307186685231215

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Basically this is part of this:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...600fe5622733f0

He's consolidating power in the West Wing. Effectively if anything requires federal funding, Trump is essentially getting the power to choke it off. So it actually doesn't matter what the actual law is, if it takes federal money to enforce or implement or maintian, Trump controls it.

So, this is kind of the crux of why Democrats or "the left" were screaming about the official acts ruling from SCOTUS. That is so broad that it means that it means he can issue blatantly illegal and unconstitutional acts and it's not illegal because he can do whatever he wants.

Each branch of government is supposed to act as a check and balance on the other branch and that has completely eroded. Based on the admissions of both GOP congressional reps and senators they basically don't have a role in government anymore. They just automatically okay anything Trump says because he has ultimate authority in their eyes.

The removal of birthright citizenship is destined for SCOTUS and is also destined to be undone. There's a common misconception that constitutional amendments have to be repealed and that's not really true. SCOTUS has, can, and will, strike certain language from the amendment, and the 14th is one that ultra-conservatives have been trying to get rid of since it was introduced.

Electing this madman has opened a pandoras box that we can't even imagine how bad it's going to end up. And frankly, it's not even him, he's so stupid he doesn't understand a single word of the executive order he's signing. This is the work of psychopaths like Stephen Miller and Russ Vought. The entire point is to completely an irreparably disassemble the government.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

And some say the end is near
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this

'Cause I'm praying for rain
I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way
I wanna watch it all go down

[chummer]

I see on the news that lots of Canadians are selling their properties in the States, don't blame them I would too.

Wonder how long it will be until Trump closes the border to Canadians.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So far he's:

a. illegally fired Inspectors general;
b. illegally frozen funds already allocated by Congress;
c. fired prosecutors who investigated him
d. started having ICE detaining people and demand papers according to demographic
e. banned trans people from government service and the military
f. removed all military memorabilia regarding racial hisotry (eg Tuskegee airmen)
g. allowed the regular army jurisdiction to arrest immigrants
h. purported to amend the 14th amendment
i. withdrawn from the Paris Treaty
j. issued orders to permitexpropriation of oil lands and drilling in natural preserves.

Is the end game to spam the courts with cases to the point where they can’t keep up?

[WideReceiver]

[QUOTE] BREAKING: Donald Trump has a midnight meltdown over the bishop who called him out to his face during a sermon at the National Cathedral, calling her "not compelling or smart" and "nasty" before really digging in.

This is the supposed "Christian" president that Evangelicals flocked to support...

"The so-called Bishop who spoke at the National Prayer Service on Tuesday morning was a Radical Left hard line Trump hater," the president wrote on Truth Social.

"She brought her church into the World of politics in a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone, and not compelling or smart," he continued.

"She failed to mention the large number of illegal migrants that came into our Country and killed people. Many were deposited from jails and mental institutions," Trump went on.

"It is a giant crime wave that is taking place in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service was a very boring and uninspiring one. She is not very good at her job! She and her church owe the public an apology!" he wrote.

As is it to be expected, Trump's characterization of Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde's remarks was deeply dishonest. Instead, she simply asked him to show mercy and "compassion" for marginalized communities.

"I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. There are gay, lesbian, transgender children, Democratic, Republican, independent families — some who fear for their lives," the reverend said.

"The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals — they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals," she added.

She also pointed out that migrants are workers who "pay taxes" and are "faithful members" of American churches, mosques, synagogues, and mosques.

The fact that these incredibly reasonable and empathetic words caused Trump to fly off the handle in the middle of the night says far more about him than it does the Bishop. Her words were chewing at him all day, eating away at his insecurities about himself, until finally he couldn't take it anymore.[\QUOTE]

[calgarygeologist]

The rebellion has begun.

A Massachusetts man was arrested on weapons charges after he visited the US Capitol on Monday and told police that he wanted to kill top Republicans, including billionaire investor Scott Bessent on the day the Senate confirmed him as President Donald Trump’s Treasury secretary, according to a Tuesday court filing.

Ryan Michael English, 24, of South Deerfield, Massachusetts, was arrested at the Capitol after he approached police and said he had knives and Molotov cocktails in his possession and wanted to surrender, according to a Capitol police officer’s affidavit. Investigators said they found a folding knife, two homemade firebombs and a lighter in English’s possession.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/28/polit...ats/index.html

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The rebellion has begun.

Looks like just the one likely unstable fellow, but real violence is probably not far away now.

[Johnny Makarov]

time for Arya to update her list.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Basically this is part of this:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...600fe5622733f0

He's consolidating power in the West Wing. Effectively if anything requires federal funding, Trump is essentially getting the power to choke it off. So it actually doesn't matter what the actual law is, if it takes federal money to enforce or implement or maintian, Trump controls it.

It will be interesting if the courts uphold this philosophy. In general the power of the purse has been seen to work in both directions. It’s relatively novel to suggest the government doesn’t have to spend money on the things congress has said it’s funded.

[La Flames Fan]

I think it's time for a rewatch of The Handmaid's Tale.

It's starting to look like the blueprint.