[PGT] Winnipeg 5 Calgary 2

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Nope, angles cut properly and that’s not a gimme. Not even close. A) That shot is way easier to make when you can see that much net. B) The goalie needs less movement to make the save. Brutal

Nobody says it’s a gimme. Shot was perfectly placed. Iggy scored with that shot placement a lot. Just over the pad post and in

Like I said, when Vilardi was coming from the top of the circle his angle was bad. But Vilardi actually skated in far enough that he actually made Vladar close to square

Why are you not talking about the shinny level D? Three Flames all start from inside and above the circle.

You shouldn’t give a guy on pace for 35-40 goals all the time in the world and zero pressure

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Jesus, I don’t even think you watch the game

It’s the individual breakdowns, and the details

Connor walking Miromanov and Bishop and going in all alone. Bad D. How many Jets let Flames walk in like that? Zero
Backlund blindly backhanding the puck to Appleton, where he is looking at a wide open net. Terrible defensive play. What Jet made a similar pass to a Flame? None
Letting Vilardi walk in to pick his spot. The Jets didn’t get in to first place in the league letting this happen
3 Flames around Vilardi but Vilardi is the only guy who touches the puck.

It’s not that they gave up 30 ten bellers. It’s that they fail to compete, and badly lose on individual plays . Some days they can play nearly perfect and hold off top teams, some days they show that they have a bunch of fringe AHL guys who are punching above their weight, and when they play top teams, they get schooled

Why is that confusing?

It's not my stats...natural statrick has scoring chances, HD chances, and expected goals even....30 ten bellers? WTF were you watching

Goalie wasn't good, I'm not the only one who thinks so...freeze the frame Vladar is nowhere near where he should be. Not sure where I said the Flames played a perfect game, all stats except goaltending were virtually even though. The Backlund play was also a bad rebound and Vladar putting the puck right into the slot.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

It's not my stats...natural statrick has scoring chances, HD chances, and expected goals even.

Goalie wasn't good, I'm not the only one who thinks so...freeze the frame Vladar is nowhere near where he should be. Not sure where I said the Flames played a perfect game, all stats except goaltending were virtually even though.

I know what the stats are and their flaws. You clearly don’t

xGA is a stupid stat to be quite honest especially with how you guys refer to it

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I know what the stats are and their flaws. You clearly don’t

xGA is a stupid stat to be quite honest especially with how you guys refer to it

30 ten bellers is the dumbest post of the night

7 HD chances and 13 scoring chances period for the Jets...exactly what the Flames had. again not my stats. Give it a rest you obviously have a stupid narrative you must push no matter what actually happens out there. Scoring chances in the game were even, possession was even.

The Jets had better goaltending...and finish if you like

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

30 ten bellers is the dumbest post of the night

7 HD chances and 13 scoring chances period for the Jets...exactly what the Flames had. again not my stats. Give it a rest you obviously have a stupid narrative you must push no matter what actually happens out there. Scoring chances in the game were even, possession was even.

The Jets had better goaltending...and finish if you like

Stupid? lol. Look in the mirror pal

Better goaltending? Both goalies face different shots

7-7 eh?

Connor walks Miromanov to go all alone and bar down. Who on the Flames walked which Jets D again. And the goalie …stoned him? Why wasn’t that on the highlights?

Backlund blindly passes to Appleton who has a wide open net. Sorry. Which Jet passed to a wide open Flame with an empty half net to shoot at?


That is exactly the flaw I am talking about. D zone positioning and shot placement are not factored in

Oh well. Why bother? I think this is too complicated for you

[dino7c]

Just to end the debate...he lost the net. Angle is off by like a foot and half the net is open. I could see it live and it looks even worse in a still. Vladars left pad, shoulder, and glove are covering exactly zero percent of the net.

[Goriders]

Watched Huska’s post game and he threw Vladar under the bus. If the had low confidence to begin with I’m betting he’ll have no confidence now.

I’d bet there’s some kind of a move made in net. Wouldn’t surprise me at least.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Just to end the debate...he lost the net. Angle is off by like a foot and half the net is open

That really doesn’t show that he lost it by much at all

The notches on the corner of the crease are in line with the face off dot

The puck is below the marks where the C stands for the face off

Not ideal but not off by much, inches. Not a foot and a half. Good god man

He moves right by a foot and he’s square to Vilardi’s left foot on the dot

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Stupid? lol. Look in the mirror pal

Better goaltending? Both goalies face different shots

7-7 eh?

Connor walks Miromanov to go all alone and bar down. Who on the Flames walked which Jets D again. And the goalie …stoned him? Why wasn’t that on the highlights?

Backlund blindly passes to Appleton who has a wide open net. Sorry. Which Jet passed to a wide open Flame with an empty half net to shoot at?


That is exactly the flaw I am talking about. D zone positioning and shot placement are not factored in

Oh well. Why bother? I think this is too complicated for you

classic slander when proven wrong by picture evidence and statistics...Vladar gave up the bad rebound that ended up on Backlunds stick in the slot.

"30 ten bell chances" is not even worth debating. No nhl tracking site even has them with half that many scoring chances let alone 10 bell.

You lost all credibility when you said that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

That really doesn’t show that he lost it by much at all

The notches on the corner of the crease are in line with the face off dot

The puck is below the marks where the C stands for the face off

Not ideal but not off by much, inches. Not a foot and a half. Good god man

OMG, there really is no hope if you are gonna debate that image. The shot is outside the hash marks and 65% of the net is open lol. His left skate should be aligned with the post, its easily a foot off maybe more...why cover the outside of the ####ing net?

I can't even sometimes

[DeluxeMoustache]

The TV camera isn’t where the puck is

Imagine if the puck had eyes, bozo

[dino7c]

He lost the net big time, bet he would tell you the same. I saw it live before the shot was even taken. If your entire left pad, shoulder, and glove are covering zero percent of the net you aren't in position.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Maybe this will help you

Look at that picture. Get a pen. Put it over the shooter’s stick and point it towards the middle of the goal line

It basically points right under Vladar’s right knee . He is off by a smidgen but not by that much. And you can not argue that there are obviously zero Flames putting any pressure on the shooter. And you can’t argue if it was perfectly placed because you heard it go off the post and in

Either way, Backlund’s blind backhand was 10 times worse

The tired team got beaten by the best team in the league because they had break downs

I don’t care what natural stat trick says, I saw the game. Calgary didn’t generate quality and Winnipeg didn’t break down

[TheScorpion]

Huska tonight: "I actually thought we played a pretty good road game. There were certain situations where I thought we could've used a save tonight, which isn't something we've said a lot this year."

[dino7c]

Backlunds play was on a bad rebound that Vladar then poked into the slot

"I don't care what the stats or video evidence says"

okay guy, totally got me there I guess. I am in no way saying the Flames dominated the game but if you think the Jets had 30 ten bellers you are totally out to lunch. Unless you are right and every stat tracking NHL site is wrong...

Vladar is probably done with the Flames IMO...NHL career iffy

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Maybe this will help you

Look at that picture. Get a pen. Put it over the shooter’s stick and point it towards the middle of the goal line

It basically points right under Vladar’s right knee . He is off by a smidgen but not by that much. And you can not argue that there are obviously zero Flames putting any pressure on the shooter. And you can’t argue if it was perfectly placed because you heard it go off the post and in

Either way, Backlund’s blind backhand was 10 times worse

The tired team got beaten by the best team in the league because they had break downs

I don’t care what natural stat trick says, I saw the game. Calgary didn’t generate quality and Winnipeg didn’t break down

To be fair when I looked at the schedule I gave them a 0% chance of winning that game. They played not bad. But tail end of a back to back against the leagues top team isn’t an easy task.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Backlunds play was on a bad rebound that Vladar then poked into the slot

"I don't care what the stats or video evidence says"

okay guy, totally got me there I guess. I am in no way saying the Flames dominated the game but if you think the Jets had 30 ten bellers you are totally out to lunch. Unless you are right and every stat tracking NHL site is wrong...

Vladar is probably done with the Flames IMO...NHL career iffy

Guy I didn’t say the jets had 30 ten bellers. I said they didn’t

Point is, they had 7 chances that natural stat trick counted, and maybe the Flames did too, but it was the egregious mistakes on the few chances that the Jets had

Calgary made the mistakes that cost them, the Jets didn’t

Backlund gave the puck to a wide open Appleton. Huska should talk about that too

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Guy I didn’t say the jets had 30 ten bellers. I said they didn’t

Point is, they had 7 chances that natural stat trick counted, and maybe the Flames did too, but it was the egregious mistakes on the few chances that the Jets had

Calgary made the mistakes that cost them, the Jets didn’t

Backlund gave the puck to a wide open Appleton. Huska should talk about that too

You may want to check how that puck ended up on Backlunds stick in the slot

Defending Vladar tonight is an odd hill to die on...did he make any non routine saves? a goalies job is to make big saves. They were taking over the and had just gotten back in the game when he lost the net on his first shot in about 8 minutes.

I think VERY few will agree with you that the Flames let Vladar down tonight. I bet Vladar is on waivers either tomorrow or after 4 nations.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You may want to check how that puck ended up on Backlunds stick in the slot

Defending Vladar tonight is an odd hill to die on...did he make any non routine saves? a goalies job is to make big saves. They were taking over the net and had just gotten back in the game when he lost the net on his first shot in about 8 minutes.

Dude, Backlund had possession. He blindly gave it to a wide open Jet for an easy goal where the goalie had no chance

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Dude, Backlund had possession. He blindly gave it to a wide open Jet for an easy goal where the goalie had no chance

Dude, I know...it was a bad rebound in the first place and then he pokes the puck into the slot. Both guys are at fault on that one.

Vladar let in bad goals and didn't make any big saves...it is what it is. Waivers incoming