01-26-2025, 12:57 AM
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#21
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Originally Posted by D as in David
Is it too abstract for people to connect the dots because they received the ticket two weeks later? Was that the only instance of your speeding or is it you got lax and your overall average speed has been creeping up over time? For me, it has always been the latter and I've adjusted.
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1. If your mission is well and truly in the name of “safety”, do you want people to slow down now or later?
2. The “your speed crept up over time” scenario is the least concerning; traffic tends to all flow at the same speed within a reasonable buffer, and that speed is often a little higher than the limit, because that’s what people feel safe and comfortable doing. We should leave people driving at the 85th percentile speed alone quite frankly; what you want are the gross outliers.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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01-26-2025, 12:58 AM
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#22
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Voted for Kodos
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the cops probably have two full time jobs just to run the photo radar st that location. its there basucally 50% of the tine
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01-26-2025, 07:45 AM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Have you guys considered not speeding by more than 10%?
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Do math in addition to reading signs, and executing complex lane changes and turns? I think you’re overestimating the ability of today’s divers.
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01-26-2025, 08:15 AM
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#25
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Have you guys considered not speeding by more than 10%?
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EXACTLY! I mean sure photo radar sucks, but at least its police funding you can make a choice not to pay. Now the shortfall will just be tacked on to property taxes. So instead of Joe "I have to speed everywhere" Blow paying the bill, we're all on the hook.
Google maps shows you where the radar is....you deserve to shell out the money, its like a stupid tax.
Just to be clear, I've definitely gotten a photo radar ticket - but who gets pissed off? You were speeding...
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01-26-2025, 09:04 AM
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#26
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I've had more than my share of photo radar tickets, though not in the past few years. My reaction was always "welp, yep, I guess I was 14 over", except where the location was clearly bull####. Like coming off 14th st onto memorial where it's 50 for 2 blocks before becoming 70 and you have to speed up quickly to safely merge onto memorial. That one always irritated me, think I got nailed there twice.
So yeah, people's complaints are valid, it's not so much the tickets themselves as the cash grabby locations.
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01-26-2025, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I've had more than my share of photo radar tickets, though not in the past few years. My reaction was always "welp, yep, I guess I was 14 over", except where the location was clearly bull####. Like coming off 14th st onto memorial where it's 50 for 2 blocks before becoming 70 and you have to speed up quickly to safely merge onto memorial. That one always irritated me, think I got nailed there twice.
So yeah, people's complaints are valid, it's not so much the tickets themselves as the cash grabby locations.
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I don’t know, locations where everybody knows they’ll be there and people still get tagged just seems like an idiot tax.
It’s just kind of silly to frame areas where people often speed as “cash grabs.” Should we put police in areas where everybody usually goes the speed limit instead?
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01-26-2025, 10:46 AM
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#28
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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You could put them in places where there is actually a legitimate safety concern. Traffic generally flowing around 10-12 KM/H over on a dead straight high-speed separated roadway isn’t that… Glenmore comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Typical dumb take.
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01-26-2025, 10:48 AM
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#29
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
It’s just kind of silly to frame areas where people often speed as “cash grabs.”
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Nobody is doing this. It's possible for two things to simultaneously exist:
a) areas where people speed often with little impact on safety i.e. Stoney Trail, built to a design speed of 110 kph, where traffic moves at 110-120
b) areas where people speed often that have a significant impact on safety, i.e. the playground zone next to my house
People don't even slow down for our playground zone. I have lived here for 2.5 years and made 7 complaints about speeding. Any time it's over 5 degrees there are kids out here. Not once have they responded, I have not once ever seen a cop here, and it is not and has never been a photo radar zone.
Explain to me how photo radar sitting 24/7 on Airport Trail is more beneficial to safety than somebody giving a damn about the utter disregard for playground zones when kids are constantly around.
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01-26-2025, 11:54 AM
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#30
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Acey
Nobody is doing this. It's possible for two things to simultaneously exist:
a) areas where people speed often with little impact on safety i.e. Stoney Trail, built to a design speed of 110 kph, where traffic moves at 110-120
b) areas where people speed often that have a significant impact on safety, i.e. the playground zone next to my house
People don't even slow down for our playground zone. I have lived here for 2.5 years and made 7 complaints about speeding. Any time it's over 5 degrees there are kids out here. Not once have they responded, I have not once ever seen a cop here, and it is not and has never been a photo radar zone.
Explain to me how photo radar sitting 24/7 on Airport Trail is more beneficial to safety than somebody giving a damn about the utter disregard for playground zones when kids are constantly around.
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The seemingly permanent set up there is absolutely ridiculous.
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01-26-2025, 11:57 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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When are we getting some of those driverless Teslas as Police Cars?
I mean...that'll come with some problems of it's own...
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01-26-2025, 11:59 AM
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#32
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Locke
When are we getting some of those driverless Teslas as Police Cars?
I mean...that'll come with some problems of it's own...
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You mean like gestapo type problems?
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01-26-2025, 12:09 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
You mean like gestapo type problems?
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Amongst others...like...can they get a perp into the back without an officer?
And if they can then it becomes more of an iRobot problem...
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01-26-2025, 12:17 PM
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#34
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Locke
Amongst others...like...can they get a perp into the back without an officer?
And if they can then it becomes more of an iRobot problem... 
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I don’t see a need for that as it’ll be more like:
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01-26-2025, 12:20 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I don’t see a need for that as it’ll be more like:
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01-26-2025, 12:27 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by Acey
Nobody is doing this. It's possible for two things to simultaneously exist:
a) areas where people speed often with little impact on safety i.e. Stoney Trail, built to a design speed of 110 kph, where traffic moves at 110-120
b) areas where people speed often that have a significant impact on safety, i.e. the playground zone next to my house
People don't even slow down for our playground zone. I have lived here for 2.5 years and made 7 complaints about speeding. Any time it's over 5 degrees there are kids out here. Not once have they responded, I have not once ever seen a cop here, and it is not and has never been a photo radar zone.
Explain to me how photo radar sitting 24/7 on Airport Trail is more beneficial to safety than somebody giving a damn about the utter disregard for playground zones when kids are constantly around.
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I’m fine with them having both. Why aren’t you?
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01-26-2025, 01:10 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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...because they clearly don't have the resources to do both. So given that resources are limited, move the useless ones to a location where they actually impact safety.
The obvious cash grab locations are getting nuked and redployed anyway so I don't really have to advocate for it since it's happening.
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01-26-2025, 01:19 PM
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#38
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All I can get
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Seen one pull over a speeder today...
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01-26-2025, 01:21 PM
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#39
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Originally Posted by Acey
...because they clearly don't have the resources to do both. So given that resources are limited, move the useless ones to a location where they actually impact safety.
The obvious cash grab locations are getting nuked and redployed anyway so I don't really have to advocate for it since it's happening.
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If resources are an issue, aren’t “cash grabs” helping the issue rather than hurting it?
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01-26-2025, 01:28 PM
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#40
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damn onions
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Pepsi’s right, they give you 10% or usually 10km over but if you exceed that they ticket.I've followed that strategy and haven’t had a speeding ticket in at least 15 years.
There are some over engineered/ seemingly arbitrarily low speed limits around town though. I feel like those low speed limits make sense in winter, but definitely not in summer when there’s no snow or ice. We should have two different limits, one for summer one for winter but it could be confusing for most idiots I mean people.
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