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Old 01-23-2025, 05:46 PM   #8041
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Not to worry about that once we become a state.

Jokes aside I think Kadri would waive for Colorado or Toronto. Maybe Detroit?

They loved him and he loved them.
The last I heard Kadri would waive tor the Leafs and the Leafs only. I'm not saying that couldn't change and maybe Royal has more up to date info then I do. I do know that Kadri loves Calgary and wants to be part of the solution here.
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Old 01-23-2025, 05:58 PM   #8042
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Mittlestadt and Ritchie?

What are we waiting for? Send the fax.
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The last I heard Kadri would waive tor the Leafs and the Leafs only. I'm not saying that couldn't change and maybe Royal has more up to date info then I do. I do know that Kadri loves Calgary and wants to be part of the solution here.
My guess is if it was Colorado it would be more Colorado banking they could convince him too.

Mackinnon and Makar give him a call and say "come win another cup" and that's probably hard for anybody to turn down.
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Old 01-23-2025, 06:07 PM   #8044
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My guess is if it was Colorado it would be more Colorado banking they could convince him too.

Mackinnon and Makar give him a call and say "come win another cup" and that's probably hard for anybody to turn down.
Good point. I would be very surprised though if Conroy would move a big piece like that given where the team is. I totally get the it's about the future stance but it sends a pretty crappy message to the players who have bonded together to prove everyone wrong.
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Good point. I would be very surprised though if Conroy would move a big piece like that given where the team is. I totally get the it's about the future stance but it sends a pretty crappy message to the players who have bonded together to prove everyone wrong.
100% this would be Colorado asking, and not calgary offering. Conroys response would be Ritchie, basically saying if you come to us hat in hand, we're taking the hat, too.

I don't think for one second that calgary is shopping kadri.
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Old 01-23-2025, 06:24 PM   #8046
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The last I heard Kadri would waive tor the Leafs and the Leafs only. I'm not saying that couldn't change and maybe Royal has more up to date info then I do. I do know that Kadri loves Calgary and wants to be part of the solution here.
Hypothetically, how funny would it be for Kadri to have blocked trades to both Colorado and Calgary when it’s all said and done.
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Old 01-23-2025, 07:19 PM   #8047
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I agree. I would trade Kadri straight across for Ritchie, and even add to make it happen, but they aren’t going to trade Ritchie- at least not for Kadri. If they were going to entertain trading him, it would involve some high-end young player.
Eating Mittelstadt's contract and his "failure to flourish outside of the Sabres" is the "add".

I think the whole point of the rumour is that the Avs HC wants Mittelstadt off of the team and replaced with a proper #2C so they can try for the cup while their window is open.
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Old 01-23-2025, 07:20 PM   #8048
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The last I heard Kadri would waive tor the Leafs and the Leafs only. I'm not saying that couldn't change and maybe Royal has more up to date info then I do. I do know that Kadri loves Calgary and wants to be part of the solution here.
Nope, this is the same I'm hearing.
Just wanted to give the Avs side of what they WANT not necessarily what Kadri wants.
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Old 01-23-2025, 07:46 PM   #8049
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I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.
Like I can definitely see Colorado interested in Kadri for obvious reasons, cup contenders, they have a prior positive history with player, cant see them giving up middlestat and plus such Ritchie, seems like a rich ask on Conroys part, but good on him for asking.Looks like Colorado wants Kadri, some leverage perhaps Conroy is taking advantage of. Mittlestadt looks like he is projects as a 2/3 centre, and although not that elite center Calgary is looking for, I do that trade straight up for just Kadri any day of the week just so Calgary can get out early from kadri's contract
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Old 01-23-2025, 07:50 PM   #8050
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I know what people think about Kadri, but I really hope they find a valuable return and deal him. He's nice to have on a cheap contract but the length BT signed him for makes it difficult to stomach having him around in 2+ years. The same goes for Huberdeau. If someone wants to take that contract on, I hope they find the positive in trying out whatever city it is. Guys get over losing a teammate.
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Old 01-23-2025, 07:55 PM   #8051
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Eating Mittelstadt's contract and his "failure to flourish outside of the Sabres" is the "add".

I think the whole point of the rumour is that the Avs HC wants Mittelstadt off of the team and replaced with a proper #2C so they can try for the cup while their window is open.
Yup, I understand. My point was there's no way we're getting Ritchie. Their prospect base is fairly thin already, so trading Ritchie would really deplete them.
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Old 01-23-2025, 09:51 PM   #8052
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RHS centers upcoming FA's:

Luke Kunin
Jack Roslovic
Craig Smith
Nik Bjugstadt
Mason Appleton
Claude Giroux
Adam Gaudette
Jake Evans
Patrick Brown

That's just to name a few.

A week ago I suggested Luke Kunin as an off season target but I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames made a move for him either.
Behind a pay wall but here is the list.

Jake Evans
Michael McCarron
Ryan strome
Nick Bjugstad
Scott Laughton
Mikael Granlund
Charlie Coyle
Trent Frederic
Ryan O’reilly
JP Pageau
Alexander Wennberg
Yanni gourde
Brock Nelson

Probably most out of our price range. Conny wants to reward team and has softened on getting someone outside of the target age range/contract, these are names out there.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/607...king-nhl-2025/
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:03 PM   #8053
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Would LOVE Kunin and Frederic, but I doubt either would come here.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:06 PM   #8054
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Behind a pay wall but here is the list.

Jake Evans
Michael McCarron
Ryan strome
Nick Bjugstad
Scott Laughton
Mikael Granlund
Charlie Coyle
Trent Frederic
Ryan O’reilly
JP Pageau
Alexander Wennberg
Yanni gourde
Brock Nelson

Probably most out of our price range. Conny wants to reward team and has softened on getting someone outside of the target age range/contract, these are names out there.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/607...king-nhl-2025/
One I wouldn't mind going for in UFA is Morgan Geekie. Feels like he could be a consistent 40pt+ guy.
Big right shot center, only 26.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:09 PM   #8055
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Assuming the flames are not going to make any big swings for players or any moves to risk the momentum (Kadri or Andersson), how about moves like these:

TRADE #1:
To Islanders: 2025 3rd round pick
To Flames: JP Pageau

TRADE #2:
To Chicago: Andre Kuzmenko
To Calgary: Taylor Hall

Pageau is a center who is great at face offs and is a playoff performer. The Kuzmenko for Hall trade is basically musical chairs. Neither guy is worth anything. It’s just a chance for two guys to switch places and see if they can get their game going at all.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:15 PM   #8056
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Assuming the flames are not going to make any big swings for players or any moves to risk the momentum (Kadri or Andersson), how about moves like these:

TRADE #1:
To Islanders: 2025 3rd round pick
To Flames: JP Pageau

TRADE #2:
To Chicago: Andre Kuzmenko
To Calgary: Taylor Hall

Pageau is a center who is great at face offs and is a playoff performer. The Kuzmenko for Hall trade is basically musical chairs. Neither guy is worth anything. It’s just a chance for two guys to switch places and see if they can get their game going at all.

I feel like Pageau easily goes for more then that.

I don't know why Chicago would do that, instead of just trading Hall for picks.

From the Flames perspective they would be good additions. Still not sure I'd want them giving up a pick as high as a 3rd for a rental this year though.

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Old 01-23-2025, 10:18 PM   #8057
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I feel like Pageau easily goes for more then that.

I don't know why Chicago would do that, instead of just trading Hall for picks.
I’m assuming Hall isn’t worth much if anything… similar to Kuzmenko.
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Old 01-23-2025, 10:22 PM   #8058
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Hall is probably worth 'something' right now. 24 points so far to Kuzmenko's 11. I don't think you can give away Kuzmenko right now or at the deadline unless he improves his production. If Hall maintains his, then he will be worth a mid round pick, or even more if it is a seller's market.


Funny enough, both have played on the 4th line for periods so far. Not sure if Hall is still playing on the 4th, but he did when he played against Calgary the last game.
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Hall might not be worth much, but he's still on pace for almost 50 points this year whereas Kuzmenko... sure isn't.

I agree I couldn't see Chicago taking Kuzy (unless they think the move and maybe playing with Bedard might motivate him back into the player he can be) but even if they did want to trade us Hall for him, we'd definitely have to add something else to make the value even
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I know what people think about Kadri, but I really hope they find a valuable return and deal him. He's nice to have on a cheap contract but the length BT signed him for makes it difficult to stomach having him around in 2+ years. The same goes for Huberdeau. If someone wants to take that contract on, I hope they find the positive in trying out whatever city it is. Guys get over losing a teammate.
Kadri is most likely going to be like Claude Giroux, a guy who continues to produce well into his late 30’s.
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