2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[FlamesAddiction]

I don't really want anything from Montreal, at least nothing that they are obviously not going to trade (Suzuki, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caulfield).

Having said that, they are a team that could be looking to shed some cap space. They are like the Flames right now as they are exceeding expectations and competing to get into the playoffs, but unlike the Flames, they have no cap space to add anything. There could be a match there for the Flames to take a cap dump back in exchange for something good.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't really want anything from Montreal, at least nothing that they are obviously not going to trade (Suzuki, Hutson, Slafkovsky, Caulfield).

Having said that, they are a team that could be looking to shed some cap space. They are like the Flames right now as they are exceeding expectations and competing to get into the playoffs, but unlike the Flames, they have no cap space to add anything. There could be a match there for the Flames to take a cap dump back in exchange for something good.

Who says no in this scenario?

To Calgary:
Josh Anderson
Calgary/Florida’s 1st round pick

To Montreal:
Posposil

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Who says no in this scenario?

To Calgary:
Josh Anderson
Calgary/Florida’s 1st round pick

To Montreal:
Posposil

Not sure why we have this obsession of getting that pick back. If the Flames do get a first between now and the draft seems like there may be other options.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not sure why we have this obsession of getting that pick back. If the Flames do get a first between now and the draft seems like there may be other options.

Agreed.
But I would do that deal.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Who says no in this scenario?

To Calgary:
Josh Anderson
Calgary/Florida’s 1st round pick

To Montreal:
Posposil

Honestly, if trading one year of Monahan's $6.5 million cap hit was worth a 1st rounder, then three years of Anderson with a $5.5 million cap hit would be worth at least that without us giving anything additional. IMO.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not sure why we have this obsession of getting that pick back. If the Flames do get a first between now and the draft seems like there may be other options.

I think it’s just because it diminishes the risk for the season (ie. the risk of going for the playoffs and falling short). Right now, missing the playoffs means giving up a high pick AND missing the playoffs. At least if they got that pick back, the flames would get a decent pick as a consolation prize for missing the playoffs.

The trade proposal I posted basically trades two similar players in terms of production and style of play… but Josh Anderson is older and is signed to a bad contract. It’s weaponizing cap space on the flames part. They could even consider trading Josh Anderson with retention to get a decent return for him - Josh Anderson at $2.25 million AAV might be worth something to a playoff team.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Honestly, if trading one year of Monahan's $6.5 million cap hit was worth a 1st rounder, then three years of Anderson with a $5.5 million cap hit would be worth at least that without us giving anything additional. IMO.

Cap space isn’t as valuable as it was in the middle of the summer in 2022 when a desperate GM was trying to recover from losing the teams 2 franchise players from the previous season.

The cap is going up $5M a year moving forward I just don’t see the same value as I did back in the uncertain times

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Cap space isn’t as valuable as it was in the middle of the summer in 2022 when a desperate GM was trying to recover from losing the teams 2 franchise players from the previous season.

The cap is going up $5M a year moving forward I just don’t see the same value as I did back in the uncertain times

Yeah. And the first round pick has grown in value because it’s for a draft that’s coming up right away. The equivalent value pick now would be for a 1st round pick in 2028.

It’s why I’m including Posposil. He’s a player that has value. He basically provides the production that Josh Anderson does but he’s younger and he’s on a good contract. The return of the Flames/Panthers 1st round pick is the combined value of Posposil and the cap space now and for the next 2 seasons.

This trade would also give Montreal the ability to add at the deadline because they would have more cap space. Could be a chance to get something significant enough to get them into the playoffs. Would be crazy if Montreal stepped in as a surprise bidder for Miller.

[traptor]

Why do we use the 1st for Moanahan dump as some type of benchmark for what we should expect to get back to eat salary.

We got hosed. I actually think alot of teams looked at that giant error and learned.

Plus the cap is projected to go up, so that makes retention less valuable.

[Yeah_Baby]

I'm hearing from my sources that shohei ohtani is on his way to Toronto

[HighLifeMan]

Anderson still has highly negative value regardless of the cap going up.. An owner isn't going to pay 11M out of pocket to fix another teams mistake unless his organization is highly incentivized to do so. This isn't a video game, folks.

Additionally - Pospisil is a young and large contributor to this this team right now. Conroy isn't going to move him.

[Royle9]

I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.

Thanks Royle! Interesting. Would definitely love a Kadri for Middlestat + Ritchie trade. Would work on a lot of levels. Could see Colorado beig very resistant to trading Ritchie though.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.

Lots thought my Kadri for Mid + Ritchie post was out to lunch...
Nice to see theres some truth to it

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.

Wonder what their idea of plus is without Ritchie. Not familiar with their prospect pool.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Wonder what their idea of plus is without Ritchie. Not familiar with their prospect pool.

Can’t remember the name but they got a defenceman with the other first round pick they had in the 2023 draft (same one they got Ritchie). He’s probably their 2nd best prospect. Could see that as what they want to use as the + but the flames would much prefer a center prospect like Ritchie.

[Monahammer]

I'd take mitts and their 1st if they don't want to give up Ritchie. And a big helping of crow on kadris value!

But i don't think it will happen. I dare not hope.

[Calgary Highlander]

The Kadri move would involve significant retention I'd imagine. Retaining on his contract for the 3.5 seasons should command a haul. It would also leave us with only one more retention slot until Markstrom contract expires at the end of next season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

The Kadri move would involve significant retention I'd imagine. Retaining on his contract for the 3.5 seasons should command a haul. It would also leave us with only one more retention slot until Markstrom contract expires at the end of next season.

Colorado is only adding 1.25M of cap for the next 3 years with Kadri so I don't think it requires any retention. Maybe they can throw in another contract.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’ve been told there’s nothing imminent at all but Craig’s very active in the market.
Vladars name has cooled off, the offers remain between a 3rd and a 5th round pick.

Still interest in Kadri and Andersson.
Colorado probably the most interested in Kadri, I’ve heard Middlestat+ as a return with Calgary wanting Ritchie as an add.

Add a later pick or lesser prospect and if the Av’s agree to Middlestat + Ritchie you get Kadri to the airport as quick as possible (provided he agrees with the trade)