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Old 01-20-2025, 11:23 AM   #3901
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I know this is the politics thread, but how long until Musk disagrees with Trump, or vice versa? I have no skin in the game through stocks, but I was thinking of TSLA based on their products and future products, but I am concerned about those two at some point having a fallout then Trump putting the screws to Musk's companies. It just seems inevitable.
I think Musk realizes this and plays nice with Trump well he is useful to him aka what is supposed to be a 4 year term...

In the meantime, Musk works to find Trump's successor who is easier to handle & control.
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I know this is the politics thread, but how long until Musk disagrees with Trump, or vice versa? I have no skin in the game through stocks, but I was thinking of TSLA based on their products and future products, but I am concerned about those two at some point having a fallout then Trump putting the screws to Musk's companies. It just seems inevitable.
Tesla stock has already priced in future performance, and in my mind has overpriced those in, so I don't see a lot of up side, unless you really think Trump is going to stick with Musk over any period of time. The second Trump turns, that stock is tanking. So it's got more downside potential than up, since it made it's huge gain with Musk and Trump winning. But Musk doesn't have a guaranteed 4 years of power, Trump pretty much does. That's a huge risk.
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:26 AM   #3903
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Maybe you guys are right about Musk’s intent but that doesn’t seem like something he’s competent enough to pull off without a major blunder.

I’d put the chances of a falling out extremely high.
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"A lot of action on the J6 hostages" Trump says. WTF is a J6 hostage?
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:32 AM   #3905
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Patriots wrongfully held in contempt for fighting for freedom on January 6, by the unselect commitee
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:33 AM   #3906
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I am still unconvinced that they were ever real.

I think it was a Drumpfian scare tactic and whats more, I'm a little embarrassed that it seems to have worked.

He's like a playground bully who is completely confident nobody would call him on it and punch him in the face. And nobody did.

This seems like a staggeringly obvious negotiating bluff and always was.
He got Canada to promise additional security spending to its borders without any promises on tariffs in return. It's clearly a complete win for him no matter if he goes through with tariffs or not.
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So prisoners then?
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:35 AM   #3908
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Lol, Trump is rambling again...
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:37 AM   #3909
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He got Canada to promise additional security spending to its borders without any promises on tariffs in return. It's clearly a complete win for him no matter if he goes through with tariffs or not.
I dont know what to say. Without sounding crass, I am a business man in that, I own and operate a business.

If someone pulled these stunts on me? Theres the door.

Who buys these shenanigans?
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I dont know what to say. Without sounding crass, I am a business man in that, I own and operate a business.

If someone pulled these stunts on me? Theres the door.

Who buys these shenanigans?
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Incoherent rambling. The President of the United States.
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:42 AM   #3912
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Maybe you guys are right about Musk’s intent but that doesn’t seem like something he’s competent enough to pull off without a major blunder.

I’d put the chances of a falling out extremely high.
Every time I see him meddle in another country I get more excited. Hes getting way up on the #### around axis.
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:43 AM   #3913
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That would be suicide for Musk and his companies, so I put the odds of that happening at under 5%. He's not in that circle to try and be "right" or whatever... he's there to enrich himself and the best way to do that is to suck up to Trump any chance he gets and hope that Trump does things that benefit Musk's companies. The narrative from the left that Musk vs. Trump is going to blow up to me feels like that side hoping and coping.
Depends. I think if the message continues to be Musk is president then Trump gets angry
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Mossed in the side show today is Biden pardons of basically his whole family. Dems must be furious as this will surly be copied by Trump.

What to think when the fear 4 years ago has been realized because of Biden. Treating the pardon process to protect family.

As dumb as some make Trump out to be, the guy sure (sadly) gets what he wants. Trump can now point to crooked Joe and say told you so. Guy seems to know how to make career politicians squirm that is for sure.
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What the hell is he rambling on and on and on about?
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I dont know what to say. Without sounding crass, I am a business man in that, I own and operate a business.

If someone pulled these stunts on me? Theres the door.

Who buys these shenanigans?
The problem comes when you are a one client business who your client knows you are a one client business, and have little outside options. Nobody told Darth Vader in his face to shove it.



Zuckenberg is kissing his butt for a reason.
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Mossed in the side show today is Biden pardons of basically his whole family. Dems must be furious as this will surly be copied by Trump.

What to think when the fear 4 years ago has been realized because of Biden. Treating the pardon process to protect family.

As dumb as some make Trump out to be, the guy sure (sadly) gets what he wants. Trump can now point to crooked Joe and say told you so. Guy seems to know how to make career politicians squirm that is for sure.
It's amazing you can look at how this played out, and find a way to blame Biden for it. You'd protect your own family too, if you saw what was going on. I sure as #### would.
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I'm half expecting one of those giant hooks to appear slowly from the side and pull Trump off stage
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Old 01-20-2025, 11:48 AM   #3919
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The problem comes when you are a one client business who knows you are a one client business, and have little outside options. Nobody told Darth Vader in his face to shove it.



Zuckenberg is kissing his butt for a reason.
No. I think that is actually a very good point.
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It's amazing you can look at how this played out, and find a way to blame Biden for it. You'd protect your own family too, if you saw what was going on. I sure as #### would.
There's very little doubt at this point that the Biden family was running an influence peddling (and other) criminal enterprise.
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