I just find it curious why Pollieve is leaning so hard into the far right talking points. I think it gives undecided voters some pause. Waiting to see what the other options are. If he just ran on "change" I think he would wrap this up pretty easily. Instead he's showing us who he really is at a time when Canadians are a bit put off with Trump style politics.
The CPC has swing far too right for me.
The Liberals have swung far to left and well just past their best before date.
Why oh why can't we get a central party.
Currently I don't see any voting options for me if there was an election tomorrow
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I still think the Canadian appetite for Trump style politics is much lower than the United States. But I don't have my own internal polling so I could be way off.
I just find it curious why Pollieve is leaning so hard into the far right talking points. I think it gives undecided voters some pause. Waiting to see what the other options are. If he just ran on "change" I think he would wrap this up pretty easily. Instead he's showing us who he really is at a time when Canadians are a bit put off with Trump style politics.
I am reading Pollieve’s biography now, written by a friend of his so there’s a definite slant, and he is a libertarian firm in his beliefs. He has been strategizing since high school and setting himself up for a time when his views will be acceptable to the public. That time is now.
I am reading Pollieve’s biography now, written by a friend of his so there’s a definite slant, and he is a libertarian firm in his beliefs. He has been strategizing since high school and setting himself up for a time when his views will be acceptable to the public. That time is now.
His views don’t all seem to be firmly libertarian.
He's a fake Libertarian. Like Danielle Smith. What they mean is, they want to be free enough to impose their will on others.
The last thing Canada should elect is a ####ing Libertarian. Their views are fundamentally incompatible with society. You want to be a libertarian? Go live on an island of one. That's the only way it works.
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His views don’t all seem to be firmly libertarian.
He is running under the conservative banner and follows their beliefs as a watered down version of libertarianism, as I understand it. His bedrock mantra is Freedom as individuals with much less interaction with government.
He is running under the conservative banner and follows their beliefs as a watered down version of libertarianism, as I understand it. His bedrock mantra is Freedom as individuals with much less interaction with government.
Right, which is why he's spent his life..in government.
OK, I just Googled it and the results that come up are Toronto Sun, True North, National Post(thanks for employing Tristin Hopper, you muppets!), Western Standard, The Countersignal, Xitter, and that's kind of enough to know this isn't a real story. Rebel Media, you are slipping. I expect more from you.
Apparently he was photographed during the day at an outdoor festival talking to some other unidentified guy while Maxwell stood nearby, in 2013.
Funny how the wacko right only cares about these kinds of random things, and not, you know, guys like Donald Trump and Elon's Karate class who actually enabled Epstein by using his "services".
You aren't being completely truthful Pickles, try again.
Elon Musk’s increasing "meddling" in politics and recent changes at Meta to eliminate fact-checking make Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s promise to defund the CBC even more consequential, said Heritage Minister Pascale St-Onge. She said the issue isn’t about left or right-wing politics, or "even if you like the CBC or not."
"It's about talking about killing one of the most important sources of information for Canadians at a time where we know that the information system is controlled by foreign billionaires," St-Onge said in an interview. "And to me it's very preoccupying to see that (Poilievre) doesn't understand that."
Some good points here. Pierre is afraid of the CBC because it does a good job educating the populace. He needs them uninformed so his three word slogans work. With social media being controlled by Billionaires who choose what to block, and TikTok controlled by the Chinese government, it's probably best we maintain whatever we can of domestic news sources. I think even the most fervent anti-CBC people could acknowledge this, if they really thought about it and ignored the tax dollar argument.
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Anyway, if the first bit is true, the Liberals have a lot of room to move up. It would be nice to know the undecided from these types of polls. I suspect the decide Conservative voter is pretty set, whereas everyone else is behaving rationally by waiting to see what the playing field looks like.
Thank you for the link.
Wait a minute...
Did you just seriously link a nanos poll that was released today, a poll that in recent years under polled CPC compared to other polls, showing CPC at 47%, Liberal at 20% and the NDP at 18%, the largest gap Nanos as ever polled...and you omit that detail to instead focus on a blacked out part about undecided votes with leaning Liberals having a narrow edge on leaning CPC? And supported this with a qualities of a leader?
Seriously? How the heck is that the main takeaway you have from that poll?
Carney is not a question mark here. He's been consistently talked about as an eventual Liberal leader for well over a decade. And he's been backed by Trudeau's team.
I guess the better question would be...does Carney make a difference? Polls so far seem to indicate who leads the Liberals not named Trudeau will make no substantial impact.
Sorry, is it also on Rebel? I don't go specifically to that site without a thorough decontamination plan in place.
it's rich that in your last post about the "CBC how it informs Canadians", yet it won't touch the Carney/Ghislaine Maxwell story amongst others, so it really doesn't matter if the media is owned mostly by the Goverment or Billionaires, they still selectively decide what they should publish and not. It's never about what they publish, it's about what they don't.
The story between Carney/Ghislaine Maxwell runs deeper than you are leading on in your post, if you are going to chest pump and start misinformation threads, you should follow your own rules, rules for thee not for me?
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DEFUND THE CBC
if defunding the cbc is going to destory it, then it deserves it's just deserts.
Did you just seriously link a nanos poll that was released today, a poll that traditionally in recent years have under polled CPC compared to other polls, showing CPC at 47%, Liberal at 20% and the NDP at 18%, the largest gap Nanos as ever polled...and you omit that detail to instead focus on a blacked out part about undecided votes with leaning Liberals having a narrow edge on leaning CPC? And supported this with a qualities of a leader?
Seriously? How the heck is that the main takeaway you have from that poll?
Carney is not a question mark here. He's been consistently talked about as an eventual Liberal leader for well over a decade. And he's been backed by Trudeau's team.
I guess the better question would be...does Carney make a difference? Polls so far seem to indicate who leads the Liberals not named Trudeau will make no substantial impact.
I didn't say it was the main point. Ya'll discuss the HUGE CPC numbers ad nauseam, so ya, I thought it was interesting to see potentials and discuss. I wasn't omitting anything. Good lord, is there a list of things I need to extract and comment on before I can comment on anything else in a poll? And despite having an A+ rating on 338, your first point is that they are somehow favouring Liberals and I absolutely shouldn't be discussing them because they came out...today? You alright upstairs?
it's rich that in your last post about the "CBC how it informs Canadians", yet it won't touch the Carney/Ghislaine Maxwell story amongst others, so it really doesn't matter if the media is owned mostly by the Goverment or Billionaires, they still selectively decide what they should publish and not. It's never about what they publish, it's about what they don't.
The story between Carney/Ghislaine Maxwell runs deeper than you are leading on in your post, if you are going to chest pump and start misinformation threads, you should follow your own rules, rules for thee not for me?
ps
DEFUND THE CBC
if defunding the cbc is going to destory it, then it deserves it's just deserts.
Well I wasn't going to click on conspiracy links, so I read the MSN one(which turned out to be Brian Lilly, anyway). So please, enlighten us oh wise one and take us down the rabbit hole.
And yes, I do expect media to select which stories they write, and when they see one like this, to not write them because it's a story about nothing and why would anyone want to read that?
Did you Harper fans watch this? We avoided the US housing crisis because Paul Martin DID NOT let Harper and Flaherty deregulate banking rules like in the US.
Worst PM than Turdeau and that is saying alot!
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Well I wasn't going to click on conspiracy links, so I read the MSN one(which turned out to be Brian Lilly, anyway). So please, enlighten us oh wise one and take us down the rabbit hole.
And yes, I do expect media to select which stories they write, and when they see one like this, to not write them because it's a story about nothing and why would anyone want to read that?
Maybe it is nothing but it's more than just Carney standing by an unknown man with with Ghiselle Maxwell near by lol. The issue here is your characterization of the story, if it was a big nothing burger in your head, you wouldn't need to characterize in favor of Carney. Your post is, how would you say misinformation.
Also i am suprised you haven't learned that sometimes partisan media is actually right, ala Hunters laptop.
Did you Harper fans watch this? We avoided the US housing crisis because Paul Martin DID NOT let Harper and Flaherty deregulate banking rules like in the US.
Worst PM than Turdeau and that is saying alot!
How?
But what it did was attributed to the current unafforability "crisis" because the housing bubble was not corrected like in the US.
