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Old 01-14-2025, 11:02 AM   #6781
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If Andersson gets traded a top 6 center under the age of 26 HAS to be in the return.
And if teams are unwilling to move a current roster player at the deadline because they are trying to win now?

Deadline deals are usually for picks and untested prospects.
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Old 01-14-2025, 11:03 AM   #6782
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This summer has me excited but also scared. The Flames have the second most cap space, plus another $9 million opening up just from Kuzmenko and Mantha.

If the Flames get a playoff spot, I can't see these owners resisting the urge to throw down some money on UFAs.
Might be worth its own thread, but I'm not sure who of the current projected UFAs would make sense for Calgary. There are a few star wingers and a few solid defencemen, but outside of guys like Bennett, Marner and maybe an older vet, I don't see anyone they'll really chase as they'll want to keep developing their young guys.

I also think we'll see fewer of the projected UFAs hitting the market this year. With the cap going up by a larger amount again, a lot of teams have more room to keep their teams together.
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Old 01-14-2025, 11:03 AM   #6783
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This summer has me excited but also scared. The Flames have the second most cap space, plus another $9 million opening up just from Kuzmenko and Mantha.

If the Flames get a playoff spot, I can't see these owners resisting the urge to throw down some money on UFAs.
Kids will take a lot of that money. I don't see GMCC being a FA big spender.

But I could see him using that space to take a player that a team wants to move so that they can grab one of the big FAs (Marner, Rantanen, Boeser).

As long as it doesn't compromise our ability to sign our kids in the future, why not? If a centre is available in the age range. Maybe BUF decides they need to move Cozens to get one of these guys and finally start their contention window. Who knows? They are a dumpster fire and anything could happen there.

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Might be worth its own thread, but I'm not sure who of the current projected UFAs would make sense for Calgary. There are a few star wingers and a few solid defencemen, but outside of guys like Bennett, Marner and maybe an older vet, I don't see anyone they'll really chase as they'll want to keep developing their young guys.

I also think we'll see fewer of the projected UFAs hitting the market this year. With the cap going up by a larger amount again, a lot of teams have more room to keep their teams together.
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-age...contract_value

Some interesting names on the list for sure.
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Some interesting names on the list for sure.
Trade Ras and go after Dobson as a UFA

Edit: he's an RFA, nvm
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Old 01-14-2025, 11:12 AM   #6786
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If Andersson gets traded a top 6 center under the age of 26 HAS to be in the return.
Going forward, the Flames' centre depth is Kadri, Zary, Backlund, Kerins, and probably Honzek. What the team really needs is a 1C, there are lots of candidates for 2C and 3C. Unless one of the veteran centres is traded, I don't see the need for another middle 6 C. And no team chasing the Cup is going to trade away their 1C. The Flames could possibly trade Andersson for a centre prospect with a high ceiling who still needs a year or two of seasoning in the minors, but I'm not sure how a roster player that a playoff contender is willing to part with would improve the team much.

I do, however, agree that the Flames should continue to trade away any pieces who do not fit in their long-term plans, whenever a favourable deal is to be had for picks or prospects, or maybe a young reclamation project or two.
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Some interesting names on the list for sure.
Yeah, I expect a lot of those guys to resign with their current clubs.

Maybe Boeser and Nelson leave those tire fires, Ekblad/Bennett gets priced out and a few of the older vets like Tavares or Benn don't want to take as deep a discount as their current teams want to give them, but guys like Marner and Rantanen, who teams typically go crazy over, are more likely to resign with their current team with big raises with the increased cap.
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The only one I am slightly worried about is Bennett.
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Trade Ras and go after Dobson as a UFA

Edit: he's an RFA, nvm
Or Pionk, just listening to Winnipeg radio and they believe Ehlers and Pionk are gone, he's a right shot D too.
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Or Pionk, just listening to Winnipeg radio and they believe Ehlers and Pionk are gone, he's a right shot D too.
I was leaning LD with all the guys we have coming in potentially on the right side. Shipping out Ras and then backfilling on RD still blocks our RD prospects
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Going forward, the Flames' centre depth is Kadri, Zary, Backlund, Kerins, and probably Honzek. What the team really needs is a 1C, there are lots of candidates for 2C and 3C. Unless one of the veteran centres is traded, I don't see the need for another middle 6 C. And no team chasing the Cup is going to trade away their 1C. The Flames could possibly trade Andersson for a centre prospect with a high ceiling who still needs a year or two of seasoning in the minors, but I'm not sure how a roster player that a playoff contender is willing to part with would improve the team much.

I do, however, agree that the Flames should continue to trade away any pieces who do not fit in their long-term plans, whenever a favourable deal is to be had for picks or prospects, or maybe a young reclamation project or two.
If Zary develops quickly into a solid 60 point centre, you've got:

Kadri - 70 points
Zary - 60 points
Backlund - 40 points

With all 3 being solid 2 way and/or physical style players. That's pretty competitive. If you can combine that with Huberdeau resurgence, another PPG winger acquisition, and Coleman, Pelletier, and Coronato that's a solid top 9.
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I can see the Flames adding a guy like Kunin at FW. Then maybe go hunting for a 2nd and 3rd pairing LD.

I do wonder about the trade angle for the Flames still, even in this scenario we are witnessing. Could be a Hamilton type trade out there he's angling for.

I also still believe that those 1st round picks can be dealt for the right player.
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Hopefully some team is dumb enough to do a Suzuki for Pacioretty type swap with Andersson
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Old 01-14-2025, 11:37 AM   #6794
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If Zary develops quickly into a solid 60 point centre, you've got:

Kadri - 70 points
Zary - 60 points
Backlund - 40 points

With all 3 being solid 2 way and/or physical style players. That's pretty competitive. If you can combine that with Huberdeau resurgence, another PPG winger acquisition, and Coleman, Pelletier, and Coronato that's a solid top 9.
It's not terrible, but its missing high end talent.

Kadri is on pace for 58 points, so 70 is a stretch.

Zary may get to 60, but he's currently on a 44 point pace. I do like his chances though.

Huberdeau is on a 62 point pace.

When you refer to another PPG guy, who's the first one? Our top guy is 62 points?

The top 9 looks like a bubble team top 9.
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It's not terrible, but its missing high end talent.

Kadri is on pace for 58 points, so 70 is a stretch.

Zary may get to 60, but he's currently on a 44 point pace. I do like his chances though.

Huberdeau is on a 62 point pace.

When you refer to another PPG guy, who's the first one? Our top guy is 62 points?

The top 9 looks like a bubble team top 9.
Obviously, this is cherry picking, but when you look at the way Huberdeau and Kadri have been playing for the last few months now, things look different.

My point is that the Flames can draw a lot from within to become a better team. You can say that about any team. If a team's players aren't playing to their potential, they are not likely to win a championship. So in assessing the Flames contending chances, you also have to look at what their players are capable of.
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Or Pionk, just listening to Winnipeg radio and they believe Ehlers and Pionk are gone, he's a right shot D too.
Especially if we trade them Andersson!
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Obviously, this is cherry picking, but when you look at the way Huberdeau and Kadri have been playing for the last few months now, things look different.

My point is that the Flames can draw a lot from within to become a better team. You can say that about any team. If a team's players aren't playing to their potential, they are not likely to win a championship. So in assessing the Flames contending chances, you also have to look at what their players are capable of.
TECHNICALLY Huberdeau is capable of 115 points. Imagine if we suddenly got that Huby. Instant contender
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Can't see us being a player in free agency for any big names. It's probably going to be status quo with stop gap signings, or depth pieces.

Even when we ice a contender free agency needs to be used more as a tool to add a 1–2-year piece. Strategic signings, not big game hunting like Nashville.

Once you have a prospect base built as well, you can get into the trade market as its easier to swallow trading a prospect when you have a young team that is contending and adding age-appropriate players.

Troy Brouwer ----> James Neal ----> Milan Lucic should give Conroy enough nightmares.
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Can't see us being a player in free agency for any big names. It's probably going to be status quo with stop gap signings, or depth pieces.

Even when we ice a contender free agency needs to be used more as a tool to add a 1–2-year piece. Strategic signings, not big game hunting like Nashville.

Once you have a prospect base built as well, you can get into the trade market as its easier to swallow trading a prospect when you have a young team that is contending and adding age-appropriate players.

Troy Brouwer ----> James Neal ----> Milan Lucic should give Conroy enough nightmares.
I think that sequence was more due to poor professional scouting. It was not a mistake at the time to identify that the team needed more goals and a right shot right winger. The issue was people identified / available were not fits.
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Some interesting names on the list for sure.
There are some big names in the UFA pool this summer but none of them really address the needs of the team. Our biggest need is a C and the biggest UFAs are wingers. The last thing this team needs is another $10M winger.

I also wouldn't look at the UFA D. If Andersson is being traded then the plan has to be to make room for Parekh / Brzustewicz.

We really need a July 1st trade partner who is flush on young Cs and needs a RD.
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