2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Teams have circled the Flames as a W. how many times as fans when we had a good team did we look at the schedule and circle easy wins. Those games usually turned into a grind and a loss because we took a team lightly.

That won’t be the case next season. Especially as we move guys out. We don’t have guys in the pipeline to come in next season and replace Andersson. If Backlund wants out we don’t have a replacement. Coleman is gone no replacement so yeah it will get worse.

Remind me of your prediction going into this season Nostradamus

1 point out of the playoffs January 12 was it? I'm sure your imaginary under the cap floor Flames will be bad but they also won't be a team that plays in reality. And why wouldn't the Flames be taken lightly next season if they are supposedly worse on paper?

[Jiggy_12]

I'm certainly not in favour of pushing to make the playoffs and forgetting about the long term goals we have. But if we do happen to sneak in, having guys like Zary, Coronato, Wolf etc get an early taste of NHL playoff hockey would be a great thing for their long-term development.

A nice bonus if we do happen to make it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol, this guy...nearly all teams fail in a 32 team league with one winner.

I am realistic with the current situation...you are on here crying about the team being too good all day every day. How does standing still make them worse than SJ and Chicago? I don't think you realize how hard it is to be that bad.

I want a BOLD team that doesn't sign retirement contracts or lose quality UFAs for nothing. IF a team is dumb enough to trade a #1 center in his prime go get it...upgrade your assets. If it doesn't work out you still have the most valuable asset in the trade.

Your biggest worry is that the Flames ROOKIE goalie is too good...like why bother? do you even enjoy hockey? Why am I wasting a Sunday arguing with you? haha

Do you even bother reading what anyone says. I hate that our goalie is good? I didn’t just say in multiple threads that we should go 8 years and 10 plus AAV for him?

I’m also realistic that if the teams traded away guys they will get worse and even the best goalies wouldn’t hold up in that situation. This team can barely score 2 goals and we don’t have much offence coming in next season so Wolf can be all world but trying to grind out 2-1 wins every day wears on the best of teams see Darryl Sutter when grinded the 06 team to death trying to win 1-0 every game.

I enjoy knowing we have a team that can be competitive and have a shot in the playoffs. Not one wasting 8 days because of a fluke seaso.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Teams have circled the Flames as a W. how many times as fans when we had a good team did we look at the schedule and circle easy wins. Those games usually turned into a grind and a loss because we took a team lightly.

That won’t be the case next season. Especially as we move guys out. We don’t have guys in the pipeline to come in next season and replace Andersson. If Backlund wants out we don’t have a replacement. Coleman is gone no replacement so yeah it will get worse.

I’m not convinced of that. If those players leave they will need to be replaced cap wise. As the cap goes up, so does the floor. I can see Coronato and Zary taking big leaps forward. It would be very bad to stay in the middle. I can still see a path where we pick top 10 this year. But if they hang on and they don’t, I’m afraid it’ll be mushy middle again next year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I’m not convinced of that. If those players leave they will need to be replaced cap wise. As the cap goes up, so does the floor. I can see Coronato and Zary taking big leaps forward. It would be very bad to stay in the middle. I can still see a path where we pick top 10 this year. But if they hang on and they don’t, I’m afraid it’ll be mushy middle again next year.

4 players will go from 1M or less salary to massive raises. We will be fine hitting the cap floor.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Do you even bother reading what anyone says. I hate that our goalie is good? I didn’t just say in multiple threads that we should go 8 years and 10 plus AAV for him?

I’m also realistic that if the teams traded away guys they will get worse and even the best goalies wouldn’t hold up in that situation. This team can barely score 2 goals and we don’t have much offence coming in next season so Wolf can be all world but trying to grind out 2-1 wins every day wears on the best of teams see Darryl Sutter when grinded the 06 team to death trying to win 1-0 every game.

I enjoy knowing we have a team that can be competitive and have a shot in the playoffs. Not one wasting 8 days because of a fluke seaso.

To fulfill your other ridiculous narrative that the Flames will have cap issues soon. You also have no idea what the Flames have coming next season like you had no idea how well they would do this year.

That is why they play and why we watch the games...

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I'm certainly not in favour of pushing to make the playoffs and forgetting about the long term goals we have.

I wouldn't say making the playoffs and not getting a top 10 pick is forgetting about the long term goals. Going out and signing or trading for aging players to try and win now would be.

There's multiple things that go into their long term goals. One being development of their young players which like you said they would benefit from being in the playoffs this young in their careers.

[dino7c]

Exactly IF the Flames make the playoffs and even if they are close its largely because of young players...Even Bahl is 24

Nobody is saying trade firsts for UFAs or 30 year olds

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Inferno

I wouldn't say making the playoffs and not getting a top 10 pick is forgetting about the long term goals. Going out and signing or trading for aging players to try and win now would be.

There's multiple things that go into their long term goals. One being development of their young players which like you said they would benefit from being in the playoffs this young in their careers.

Sorry yes, that is what I meant and worded it poorly. I am definitely in favour of making the playoffs, but not to the point of being deadline buyers and forgoing the long term vision.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pettersson is literally a win now trade. It’s not a futures trade. He is absolutely a now player if you don’t get that you probably don’t understand hockey.

Adding him to a core or Hanley Pachal Bahl Sharangovich Duber should really push us over the top. Wait Coronato as well.

Left out Zary because hes 100% going the other way.

We should look at extending Kuzmenko at this point. They had cHeMisTry.

[traptor]

Petterson is 26 and signed for 7 more years after this one.

It's a try to win over the next 7 moves. Which fits with Wolfs window, who is our budding superstar.

It would give you a bonafide 1c and 1g for the better part of a decade.

The other option is to just sit in the middle and hope your mid draft picks break out. But it takes about 5 years for your typical NHLer to develop from being drafted (i.e. zary). Say we drafted our future 1c this year in the mid 20s. He probably won't be NHL ready until Wolf is 28. Then your window is only 5 years.

And that's if you hit, which chances are very slim of this even happening.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He will be 27 when next season starts so we probably have 2 years to get him the talent required to win. No 30 yo #1C has won a cup since the lockout. We will have upgrade on Bean Hanley right away. Get some elite top 6 forwards they are available easily so that isn’t a problem.

It’s time to go all in.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by traptor

Petterson is 26 and signed for 7 more years after this one.

It's a try to win over the next 7 moves. Which fits with Wolfs window, who is our budding superstar.

It would give you a bonafide 1c and 1g for the better part of a decade.

The other option is to just sit in the middle and hope your mid draft picks break out. But it takes about 5 years for your typical NHLer to develop from being drafted (i.e. zary). Say we drafted our future 1c this year in the mid 20s. He probably won't be NHL ready until Wolf is 28. Then your window is only 5 years.

And that's if you hit, which chances are very slim of this even happening.

Another option would be to trade Wolf.

I know it's not going to happen and would be too risky, but if Chicago offered their 2025 1st rounder, would anyone do it? They have built up their prospect base everywhere but in goal and are probably looking to take the next step soon.

It does kind of feel like Wolf emerging now is a little bitter sweet. In hindsight, if the Flames started the rebuild a couple of seasons sooner and we had another 2 drafts worth of high picks, it would be perfect.

[dammage79]

I'd probably quit watching hockey altogether if they traded Wolf. That'd be the absolute dumbest thing the Flames could possibly do. You try for decades to draft and develop a star goalie and it finally happens so you shoot yourself in the face by trading him? Woof.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Connor Geekie is a healthy scratch for the Lightning today.

Has he been playing poorly recently?

Interesting... havent heard he's been bad or anything. Seems kinda random

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd probably quit watching hockey altogether if they traded Wolf. That'd be the absolute dumbest thing the Flames could possibly do. You try for decades to draft and develop a star goalie and it finally happens so you shoot yourself in the face by trading him? Woof.

It’s just idiotic responses from people who can’t stomach a rebuild.

[ComixZone]

Patience.

What is wrong with patience? It takes a long time to build a Champion, and you can’t shortcut that process. If you try, you fail.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd probably quit watching hockey altogether if they traded Wolf. That'd be the absolute dumbest thing the Flames could possibly do. You try for decades to draft and develop a star goalie and it finally happens so you shoot yourself in the face by trading him? Woof.

I get it. You might get a future #1 center like Misa or Hagens, but then you end up rotating through a bunch of bum goalies like the Flames did between Kiprusoff and Markstrom.

That's why the best thing to do would be to lean into having Wolf. If he keeps up his play and progresses even more, I don't think counting on the draft to produce a #1 center is smart. He'll likely be at least enough to keep us out of the top 10, and almost certainly the top 5 or 3 draft picks, where top line centers are easiest to find.

I just don't see a prosperous of successful middle path at this point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Usually when you draft a prospect like a Hagens Misa or a McKenna they make an impact soon.

Looks like we have a lot of Sutter family members here who hate the draft.

[Sandman]

There would be riots in the streets if Wolfie was traded.