Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by gasman

You do understand there are more taxes then just income tax right? 50% may have been a touch high, but the total tax bill for the average Canadian family is 46%

Tax Freedom Day

Financial Post Article - open incognito to bypass paywall

I'd definitely need to see another source for that number, because TFI has confirmed they don't know how marginal tax rates work, are liars, or both.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'd definitely need to see another source for that number, because TFI has confirmed they don't know how marginal tax rates work, are liars, or both.

They take things like GST, property tax, carbon tax, etc into consideration.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

They take things like GST, property tax, carbon tax, etc into consideration.

That's fine, and it is a good number to know, I just don't trust TFI to do it.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That's fine, and it is a good number to know, I just don't trust TFI to do it.

Yeah they use the average Canadian because if you go with just people below $60k annual household income it dips significantly. They also never take into consideration how much of the taxes paid gets refunded.

[Fuzz]

Right, they want it to look the worst possible so they can push their agenda and have people spread the SHOCKING TRUTH. The truth is, no one has to pay that much, there are easy ways to reduce it pretty much every one does. I wonder if they even include the carbon tax rebates.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I wonder if they even include the carbon tax rebates.

Almost certainly not

[Fuzz]

I wish this forums Frasier Institute filter worked as well as the swear filter does.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I wish this forums Frasier Institute filter worked as well as the swear filter does.

I try to look on the bright side so I think it’s nice whenever I’m given the opportunity to point out how misleading a lot of their stuff is. Same reason I don’t mind posters like Yoho.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Income supports? Define that please.

Universal Basic Income

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by SebC

Universal Basic Income

So why would UBI be any different than a tax break?

[Fuzz]

Alberta Advantage takes another hit, as province delists, cuts payments, and adds inconvenience to optometry coverage.


https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/changes-a...iors-1.7168413


All this winning is exhausting.

[BlackArcher101]

Maybe those seniors should take care of their eyes better, then they wouldn't need care.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Maybe those seniors should take care of their eyes better, then they wouldn't need care.

Have you seen how many kids, some as young as 2, are wearing glasses? My grandson has been wearing glasses since he was 12 years of age. It is not a problem of not taking care of his eyes. He is near sighted.

[Fuzz]

I had hoped he was being facetious. Now I'm not sure.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by gasman

You do understand there are more taxes then just income tax right? 50% may have been a touch high, but the total tax bill for the average Canadian family is 46%

Tax Freedom Day

Financial Post Article - open incognito to bypass paywall

I bet he will suggest 100%.

Just a gut feeling.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I had hoped he was being facetious. Now I'm not sure.

I definitely was. We don't need health care as health issues are our own fault!

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by belsarius

This thread has turned into a masterclass nightmare of everything I despise about neoliberalism and the failed supply-side economic theory.

lol "failed".

Answer me this, how many low income people does it take with goverment handouts in hand to match the economic output of say, someone like Elon Musk? Remember Musk not only is generating wealth for himself that has allowed to him start and invest in many many busness that have paid billions in taxes, that have provided hundred of thousands of jobs over time, which generated billions in payroll tax and the success of these busines has generated wealth for RRSP, TFSA, Pension Funds ect.

How many goverment funded consumers would it take to match his contribution to the economy, millions of people?

How many?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

lol "failed".

Answer me this, how many low income people does it take with goverment handouts in hand to match the economic output of say, someone like Elon Musk? Remember Musk not only is generating wealth for himself that has allowed to him start and invest in many many busness that have paid billions in taxes, that have provided hundred of thousands of jobs over time, which generated billions in payroll tax and the success of these busines has generated wealth for RRSP, TFSA, Pension Funds ect.

How many goverment funded consumers would it take to match his contribution to the economy, millions of people?

How many?

I don’t know, how many people does Musk employ/exploit?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I don’t know, how many people does Musk employ/exploit?

Exploit? The 19th century called; they want their vocabulary back!

Well he employs many more people that one person who spends their goverment money at Walmart.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Exploit? The 19th century called; they want their vocabulary back!

When was exploitation eradicated?

Well he employs many more people that one person who spends their goverment money at Walmart.

One more time, in English this time please.