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Old 01-06-2025, 08:53 PM   #3421
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On the good side of things he did say there should be no problem getting any cards you want. Maybe that's why they waited 4 months later than usual. Just stock piled them all so they flood the market all at once then when AMD or Intel release better cards everyone has already bought a Nvidia card at every price range.
So . . . buy them for all the gaming PC's we have in the house? :P

TBH, I'll believe it when I have it in hand. Still think it'll be hard to get especially with their high demand just on the data center side.
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Old 01-06-2025, 08:56 PM   #3422
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I'll sleep on it and see if I put up my card for sale. I wonder when the reviews will start coming out.
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Old 01-06-2025, 08:57 PM   #3423
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So . . . buy them for all the gaming PC's we have in the house? :P

TBH, I'll believe it when I have it in hand. Still think it'll be hard to get especially with their high demand just on the data center side.
I'd get half a renovation done if I did that lol. We got one in every room.
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Old 01-06-2025, 09:03 PM   #3424
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I'll sleep on it and see if I put up my card for sale. I wonder when the reviews will start coming out.
I don't know if I'm even going to bother now untill reviews come out. I think many buyers will hold out in hopes the 5070 claim is true ( bold prediction I don't think it will) but many will wait to buy till then.

I don't know what to do if the 5080 is avaliable like he claims and out performs the 4090 in rasterization then I'll probably just give it to the wife. If it's going to be as easy to get one as he claims you'd have to sell it for like 1000 bucks.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:54 AM   #3425
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Where did you hear about not needing to worry about availability? When it comes to hardware, even though we live in Canada, it seems like we’re always treated as a lower class market and have to fight for the supply that Canadian retailers receive.
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:11 AM   #3426
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Where did you hear about not needing to worry about availability? When it comes to hardware, even though we live in Canada, it seems like we’re always treated as a lower class market and have to fight for the supply that Canadian retailers receive.
It was early in Jensens' speech.
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Old 01-07-2025, 11:47 AM   #3427
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It was early in Jensens' speech.
I missed this as well. I hope he is right! Gimmie that new card!
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I don't know if I'm even going to bother now untill reviews come out. I think many buyers will hold out in hopes the 5070 claim is true ( bold prediction I don't think it will) but many will wait to buy till then.

I don't know what to do if the 5080 is avaliable like he claims and out performs the 4090 in rasterization then I'll probably just give it to the wife. If it's going to be as easy to get one as he claims you'd have to sell it for like 1000 bucks.
Apparently the claim is true only if they include a bunch of AI stuff. In terms of raw horsepower the claim is not true
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Old 01-07-2025, 12:20 PM   #3429
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Apparently the claim is true only if they include a bunch of AI stuff. In terms of raw horsepower the claim is not true
Of coarse it's not true but the era of pure rasterization is ending. Especially since games are forcing you to use ray tracing now.
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I was initially turned off a bit by all of the AI functionality. it seemed like it there were less gains on raw power but more on the tech stack. But then thinking of it, if all of these AI do-dads make games look just as good and provide a better gaming experience then does it matter? DLSS was a game changer and people love it. Maybe the new AI parts are the next evolution and it'll make gaming that much better. I don't know if it's $2k USD better but maybe there's some positivity here.
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So it looks like I'll be getting https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/Ge...RIM-LIQUID-SOC when it becomes available. I currently have the 4090 version of that card and have had an excellent experience with it. So if anyone might be in the market for 4090 MSI 24gb Suprim liquid with very low miles and less than a year old I'll take a look throwing up for sale here on CP
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The next card I get will probably be the 80 or 90 series. I can still play games at the highest settings with no stutter so there's no point for me to even consider upgrading so soon.
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The next card I get will probably be the 80 or 90 series. I can still play games at the highest settings with no stutter so there's no point for me to even consider upgrading so soon.
I just recently built a new rig with 4070ti Super and I don't see myself upgrading any time soon.

Maybe as my kids get older or something and I start building PCs for them I'll upgrade more often, but god damn the prices for GPUs is insane. Mine was over $1000 (on sale).
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I just recently built a new rig with 4070ti Super and I don't see myself upgrading any time soon.

Maybe as my kids get older or something and I start building PCs for them I'll upgrade more often, but god damn the prices for GPUs is insane. Mine was over $1000 (on sale).
I paid $2300 after taxes for a 4090 FE. It was more than half of what I ended up spending to build my computer.

Before that I paid $600 for a 2070 Super that I ended up regretting doing as I only used it for two years. I was going to wait until I built a new PC but a co-worker talked me into getting one before. It was good at first coming from what I was using before but then when the 4090 was announced I realized I should have just waited.

I planned on selling it after I built my new computer but just never got around to it so it's still sitting in my old PC.
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So it looks like I'll be getting https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/Ge...RIM-LIQUID-SOC when it becomes available. I currently have the 4090 version of that card and have had an excellent experience with it. So if anyone might be in the market for 4090 MSI 24gb Suprim liquid with very low miles and less than a year old I'll take a look throwing up for sale here on CP
How is the noise level for this? Can you hear the pump for the radiator? I don't know much about water cooled GPUs but I'm assuming there's a pump similar to a CPU watercooler? If you already have a radiator occupying the top of the case, could one buy this setup and just then replace the three vertically mounted fans (x3) on the side of the case? For example, in the Lian Li O11 Dynamic?
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This is how we all feel ( I hope).


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Old 01-08-2025, 01:09 AM   #3437
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I was initially turned off a bit by all of the AI functionality. it seemed like it there were less gains on raw power but more on the tech stack. But then thinking of it, if all of these AI do-dads make games look just as good and provide a better gaming experience then does it matter? DLSS was a game changer and people love it. Maybe the new AI parts are the next evolution and it'll make gaming that much better. I don't know if it's $2k USD better but maybe there's some positivity here.
Ya , I'm with you.

I'm just old enough that people calling all the extra add on tech fake frames is driving me nuts. All the new tech should be looked at when rasterization was coming out and replacing polygon rendering. The ps2 and original Xbox started rasterization( at the time was an ai tech) and no one said it was ####. 20 years later we are improving it. If ai wasn't the new buzz word and we replace the modern term nural rendering in place of rasterization or just called nural rendering instead of rasterization would there be the same outcry?

Any frame a gpu is technically fake . The algorithm to produce any frame is fake but newer ways insult old ways of making that fake frames....
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Not really though? Because AI frames are generated, if you're playing an FPS for example your mouse is only connected to 1 out of 4 frames, or 1 out of 8 frames or whatever the f
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PCBuilderJason gets negative one million points for posting a tweet saying to not drop the 5090 that doesn't have a video of someone dropping the 5090.
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