2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Not sure bringing in a guy who doesn’t like to be around teammates and prefers to be left alone and not be dragged into anything is the opposite of what Craig wants here in Calgary.

Could be wrong but I don’t see a fit.

Not sure having issues with one particular dude who is by all accounts pretty fiery and can be a bit of a D when things aren't going well means that you don't like to be around teammates in general.

We've all been in a situation where we didn't love a particular co-worker I'm sure. Now imagine that somehow leaking to the media and having them pester you about regularly while calling into question your character while often lauding the other guy's temperament because he's "an animal" and "passionate" etc. I don't think the viewing public needs to make huge character judgements based on such a situation....but if you're bringing him in, you probably want to have a lot of confidence in your room to bolster him in the best way.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Being a DB to a teammate because you can doesn’t make you an animal and passionate. It just makes you an #######.

Coaches get fired for treating players like that, players should be held to the same standard if they are treating teammates like that.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

This is ridiculous, Huberdeau has negative value. It doesn't matter that he has been better lately, that contract is non tradeable.

LOL. if this trade goes through, London Drugs on Robson better start barricading their doors.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Trading for Mercer. Was he a Conroy precious or just a CP precious?

Where would we play him at the moment though?

He's been relegated to NJ's third line. Do I think he is a third line player? Absolutely not!

At the moment our top 6 RW'ers are Pospisil and Coronato. Pospisil has shown chemistry with Hubey and Kadri and I have very little interest splitting them up. Long term having Coronato learn how to become a top 6 player from both Backs and Coleman is great for his development and for this team long term.

Throwing him on the third line also becomes slightly problematic as he would be where he is right now in Jersey and either of Pelletier or Sharky would need to drop down a line. Sharky isn't a fourth liner and shouldn't be anywhere near a fourth line. Pelts can play there and has shown to be effective there in the past but this wouldn't be providing the opportunity for Mercer to pop.

I would love to have him on the team but for this to happen Pospisil would need to no longer be effective in a top 6 role as he would need to be in the top 6. No point to bring him in to be a bottom 6 player.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by prizefighterinferno

Not sure having issues with one particular dude who is by all accounts pretty fiery and can be a bit of a D when things aren't going well means that you don't like to be around teammates in general.

I don’t disagree with you at all.
But it’s not just 1 dude, he doesn’t socialize at all outside of the room and it’s JT Miller who speaks out against it which has labeled him the problem, likely because he takes it too far, he’s been known to aggressively call out teammates which is not ok.

The Canuck’s want a team of guys who get along and play for each other, a room where everyone will go to battle for one another. JT Miller expects that from everyone and pulls them into the fight.

Sound familiar? The Flames experienced this same thing with Dougie and then promptly shipped him out even though he’s still a great player, he just didn’t fit into the culture and room. Getting along outside of the rink is quite crucial, I know you don’t have to be best friends with everyone.

Calgary wants guys who want to be Flames, want to go to battle with one another and that culture is what Craig is building.

[CFO]

I like Pospisil as a player and certain elements he brings. But unless he starts to put up more offensive numbers, you cannot have a player like that eating up top 6 time for offense.

Your top 2 lines need to be consistent offensive threats, especially arguably your top line (kardi and Huberdeau the last 15 games or so).

[CFO]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I don’t disagree with you at all.
But it’s not just 1 dude, he doesn’t socialize at all outside of the room and it’s JT Miller who speaks out against it which has labeled him the problem, likely because he takes it too far.

The Canuck’s want a team of guys who get along and play for each other, a room where everyone will go to battle for one another. JT Miller expects that from everyone and pulls them into the fight.

Sound familiar? The Flames experienced this same thing with Dougie and then promptly shipped him out even though he’s still a great player, he just didn’t fit into the culture and room. Getting along outside of the rink is quite crucial, I know you don’t have to be best friends with everyone.

Calgary wants guys who want to be Flames, want to go to battle with one another and that culture is what Craig is building. I personally don’t see Petey’s “leave me alone” mentality fitting in with our culture either is all.

I don't agree. Looks like on Hoglander Instagram there's pictures of him and EP. So he does socialize but could be a cultural swede thing.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by CFO

I don't agree. Looks like on Hoglander Instagram there's pictures of him and EP. So he does socialize but could be a cultural swede thing.

We’ll know who the issue is based on who’s traded.
There’s more than just 1 hockey mind saying there’s issues in that room, and most of them are pointing to EP being a big part of the issue and then JT being very aggressive about it.

Time will tell, but to me it’s ver much like the Calgary/Dougie situation and we saw Dougie in all sorts of social media posts out with people. Doesn’t mean he’s taking part in all the team building activities they want guys in, and in Calgarys case he wasn’t.

From what I’ve heard, this is very close to what’s going on in Vancouver.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by CFO

I don't agree. Looks like on Hoglander Instagram there's pictures of him and EP. So he does socialize but could be a cultural swede thing.

Backlund as a leader for EP versus JT Miller is about as night and day difference as I can imagine. I don't know how EP wouldn't be engaged with his teammates with Backlund leading the way.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Groot

Backlund as a leader for EP versus JT Miller is about as night and day difference as I can imagine. I don't know how EP wouldn't be engaged with his teammates with Backlund leading the way.

This undoubtedly would be different. There’s no denying that Backlund is a better person on and off the ice. Much more respect from what we’ve seen.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why is Quinn Hughes the captain when JT Miller is running the room in Vancouver. Seems to be a larger issue than just Miller vs Pettersson.

Team is also 0-4 without Pettersson. I don’t remember the record when Miller was out on his break.

Says a lot about the character of Miller. Takes a break from the team for mental health break and bullies people on his team.

[PaperBagger'14]

Huberdeau would absolutely have to be part of any trade for Petterson. If EP’s production dropped off a cliff like Huberdeau did we would be absolutely screwed with over 20 mil in dead weight. That’s a quick way to send this rebuild off the rails until Huberdeau is off the books.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think the knocks against Pettersson are overblown, especially when I see "soft as butter" as an adjective to describe him. He is as soft as the Sedins were - I hated the Sedins for flopping around the ice trying to draw penalties, but they absorbed a lot of punishment and didn't shy away from it. I think Pettersson even initiates physicality more often. One guy I would throw up as a comparable is Lindholm - nobody is going to mistake him for some kind of a bruiser out there, but he was sneaky strong.



I think Pettersson is going to get a haul - 1st line Cs always do, especially when they are a PPG C, who also hit the elite-level 100pt plateau, and is 26 years old. I think he will continue to produce above a PPG for many seasons in the right environment.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by CFO

I like Pospisil as a player and certain elements he brings. But unless he starts to put up more offensive numbers, you cannot have a player like that eating up top 6 time for offense.

Your top 2 lines need to be consistent offensive threats, especially arguably your top line (kardi and Huberdeau the last 15 games or so).

I think he does add to offense generation. Just in a different way. He’s a great forchecker and puck retriever. I think that’s his role on the line. Get the puck for huberdeau and kadri. It seems to be working so I wouldn’t touch it. Not much has worked consistently with huberdeau

[Calgary4LIfe]

I like Pospisil because he has skill - he is fast, he has underrated playmaking ability, he can receive hard passes well, and of course he is physical. I think he is a bit snakebitten, and I certainly like him more as a 3rd line player, but he makes for a very good complimentary player in the top 6. Eventually he will either improve, or he will get pushed down to the bottom 6, and that's great either way - this team could use a couple more Pospisils.

[saillias]

So the knock against EP is he doesn't want to hang out with his coworkers off the clock? I relate to this man then. Isn't the practice time, video time, game days, morning skates, charity events, flights, road trips, enough? They want his free, non-contractually obligated time too?

[Paulie Walnuts]

The on ice fit has to be looked as well because I don’t see calgary being a place for players to come and pop at the moment.

Huska has the team playing low event hockey this year. So outside of the PP how much damage can he do with a not so great roster and style that stifles you offensively.

[Roof-Daddy]

Heh, imagine Conroy snapping up both Petterson and Cozens, and then they both light it up with a change of scenery.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Royle9

We’ll know who the issue is based on who’s traded.
There’s more than just 1 hockey mind saying there’s issues in that room, and most of them are pointing to EP being a big part of the issue and then JT being very aggressive about it.

Time will tell, but to me it’s ver much like the Calgary/Dougie situation and we saw Dougie in all sorts of social media posts out with people. Doesn’t mean he’s taking part in all the team building activities they want guys in, and in Calgarys case he wasn’t.

From what I’ve heard, this is very close to what’s going on in Vancouver.

I recently saw that Brad Richardson was on a podcast and he commented on the two players. He said that he told Miller to take it easy on the kid because he isn't the type to react well to how Miller treats players. The problem is very likely both and it is up to Vancouver to decide which one will be best to keep going forward. Maybe they trade both to different teams... but it would be funny if they traded both to the same team. EP and Miller to Edmonton for

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why is Quinn Hughes the captain when JT Miller is running the room in Vancouver. Seems to be a larger issue than just Miller vs Pettersson.

Team is also 0-4 without Pettersson. I don’t remember the record when Miller was out on his break.

Says a lot about the character of Miller. Takes a break from the team for mental health break and bullies people on his team.

They are 0-4 because they are also missing their best player Hughes. Add in that their 2 nd best dman is also.