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Old 12-30-2024, 01:13 PM   #281
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I get the feeling Huska doesn’t like Klapka. Every time he comes up he gets minimal ice time and is quickly sent back down. I personally don’t think they use him properly. It seems Huska wants him to be a pseudo goon. But I get the feeling that’s not in his nature. He has half decent hands. I think he should be utilized as a power forward. Stick him in front of the net on the powerplay ect
I agree. Give him some more important minutes and let’s see what we have in him.
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Old 12-30-2024, 01:26 PM   #282
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Part of the problem is we just have too many wingers that we want to play in the top 9.

Huberdeau, Pospisil, Coleman, Coronato, Pelletier, Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, Klapka, Stromgren, Honzek...that's 10 guys with only 6 top 9 winger spots available.

I have nothing against bringing in Lomberg and re-signing Rooney...but it kind of led the team to having a 4th line that was constructed a certain way...instead of it being a spot to work youngsters into the lineup.

With the players we have on the farm it would be great if some combination of Pelletier/Klapka/Stromgren/Honzek/Kerins could be used as a 4th line that was more of a "Kid Line" that had a more offensive focus (but in sheltered minutes) as opposed to the "Veteran Energy Line" that our 4th line is kind of constructed of now.
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Old 12-30-2024, 01:46 PM   #283
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I think bigger guys very important in POs. We don't have many of them.
Pospisil, Bahl - that's all.
So I hope Klapka, Stromgren and Honzek develop into bigger skilled guys to help the team, who can little bit score and also create space for their line mates like Zary and Coronato.
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Old 12-30-2024, 05:25 PM   #284
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Welp, I'm officially excited for future Flame Maddox Schultz. I just witnessed him tally 4g 1a during a game at the Circle K Classic. He scored the game tying goal and the game winning goal. He's 14 yo!!

https://calgaryherald.com/sports/spe...rcle-k-classic

So draft eligible 2028 I guess.

Flames need to be super terrible 2026-2028

McKenna, Dupont, Schultz.
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Part of the problem is we just have too many wingers that we want to play in the top 9.

Huberdeau, Pospisil, Coleman, Coronato, Pelletier, Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, Klapka, Stromgren, Honzek...that's 10 guys with only 6 top 9 winger spots available.

I have nothing against bringing in Lomberg and re-signing Rooney...but it kind of led the team to having a 4th line that was constructed a certain way...instead of it being a spot to work youngsters into the lineup.

With the players we have on the farm it would be great if some combination of Pelletier/Klapka/Stromgren/Honzek/Kerins could be used as a 4th line that was more of a "Kid Line" that had a more offensive focus (but in sheltered minutes) as opposed to the "Veteran Energy Line" that our 4th line is kind of constructed of now.
Do the defense now. There are probably 6 guys that will be needing a spot soon.
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Old 01-01-2025, 08:40 PM   #286
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tl;dr

Wolf and Vladar good, team defense bad, team offense unchanged

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Continuing my sporadic analysis of team performance based on one HF poster's (mostly?) objective view of Stoppable Goals.

Continuing from my last post on this here:

%SGA=% stoppable goals against (what percent of goals against are stoppable by the Flames goalies)
USGA/gp=Unstoppable goals against/game played (how many unstoppable goals are the Flames D giving up)
USGF/gp=Unstoppable goals for/game played (how many unstoppable goals for are the Flames O generating)
P(PG)/gp= Extra Points (Perfect Goalie)/game played (how many extra points achieved per game played if Flames goalies were hypothetically perfect)

year--------------%SGA----USGA/gp----USGF/gp---EP(PG)/gp
2021-2022-------29.1------1.7----------2.29--------0.3
2022-2023-------34.1------1.89---------2.12--------0.46
2023-2024-------43--------1.81---------1.71--------0.57
2024-2025------24------2.16--------1.70-------0.35

(21/22 is for 80 gp, 22-23 is for the first 57 gp of that season, 23/24 is for only the first 21 games of that seaon, 24/25 is for the first 37 gp this season, this is very manual unfortunately)


Through 37 games, only 24% goals against Flames netminders this year have been stoppable goals that they should have been able to save. League average is typically around 28-30%. This is pretty good!

The team defense has been allowing about 19% more unstoppable goals this year compared to the sampled games from previous seasons. The effect of no more Tanev perhaps? Overall, the worst aspect of the team relative to how it had been the last couple seasons.

The offense hasn't really moved from last year. This isn't a big surprise, this team struggles to score. Still a far ways off from 2021-22 and 2022-2023, but to be expected given the relative lack of talent on this team currently.

This last stat EP(PG)/gp is kind of galaxy brain math (read the explanation for this in the link), but it shows that the goalies have been giving away points at a pretty ok rate, very comparable to 2021-22. Overall the goalies have been strong. (for the curious, the data so far has Wolf conceding 8 points vs if he had been perfect and Vladar only 5. The first Columbus game, the St. Louis game on Dec 5, and the Boston game on Dec 17 were listed as winnable with perfect tending.)

Opposing netminders have been about league average against the Flames so far this year, with 88 total GA and only 25 of them stoppable, for a 28% rate.

Judging by this, I think the Flames are a good bet to miss the playoffs and fall down in the conference. Through 37 games, the overall balance of skater play has been leading to an average deficit of almost half a goal per game. I don't think great goaltending can overcome that. At the end of the day, a positive goal differential is pretty much what you need to make the playoffs, the Flames are pretty significantly negative on this.

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Surprisingly, no goalie has been pulled by either team in any Flames game this season so far.

In terms of a comparison between the goalies themselves:

In 19 starts Wolf has 50 GA with 13 SGA for 26% stoppable. (4 of these came in the previously mentioned Columbus game, I don't think the focus could have been there that night, ignoring that one he's at 46 GA, 9 SGA, 19.6% stoppable)

In 18 starts Vladar has 55 GA, 12 SGA for 22% stoppable.

Despite the disparity in SV% and GAA so far this team Vladar has been right there with Wolf in terms of stopping the goals that he can stop which roughly matches my eye test. Overall, the team has been playing much more low event hockey with Wolf in net, only scoring 1.57 USGF/g and conceding 1.95 USGA/g compared to 1.83 USGF/g and a wild 2.38 USGA/g with Vladar in net.

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Feel free to ask me about this analysis. It is subject to the bias of having essentially one guy assign every goal as stoppable and unstoppable of course but if we can assume that they are fair, then I think the analysis can be treated as sound. As well, I haven't been very thorough in compiling the data, there are some gaps over the last couple seasons.
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It is getting harder to see this team falling off completely. It will be interesting to see if Conroy can add that long term piece to help offensively to perhaps allow this team to score more and be stronger this year. I see no short term moves made but I am curious to see how aggressive Conroy is at making long term moves before the offseason.
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Old 01-02-2025, 10:10 AM   #288
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I guess best case scenario if the Flames just miss the playoffs would be if they win the draft lottery and move up 10 spots, then they get to keep their 4th overall pick I'm assuming?
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Old 01-02-2025, 10:30 AM   #289
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It is getting harder to see this team falling off completely. It will be interesting to see if Conroy can add that long term piece to help offensively to perhaps allow this team to score more and be stronger this year. I see no short term moves made but I am curious to see how aggressive Conroy is at making long term moves before the offseason.
It's 2025 and they're in a playoff spot.

I was on the rebuild side of the equation based on the roster they had this year, but I'm done with that.

Make the playoffs and shock the world.

Do that and the gap with the Florida pick isn't that big a deal.

Add two more first round selections, and don't worry about missing the top ten because a lot of the heaving lifting to make the playoffs have been done by younger players.
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At the start of the season, I had a list of things that needed to happen for the team to turn it around and avoid a rebuild:

1. Wolf emerges as a starter.
2. Kadri and Huberdeau find their game and become first line talent again.
3. The defence somehow figures it out.
4. 2-3 prospects emerge and become solid 2nd line-ish depth players.

Seems like a lot of those things are falling into place. Right now the biggest issue is consistent depth scoring. Zary, Pelletier, and Coronato all need to up their games and go from 30-45 point guys to 60ish point guys. Doesn't help that Sharangovich and Kuzmenko have forgotten how to tie their own skates. Losing Kirkland and Mantha to injury was also a blow.
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Old 01-02-2025, 10:48 AM   #291
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It's 2025 and they're in a playoff spot.

I was on the rebuild side of the equation based on the roster they had this year, but I'm done with that.

Make the playoffs and shock the world.

Do that and the gap with the Florida pick isn't that big a deal.

Add two more first round selections, and don't worry about missing the top ten because a lot of the heaving lifting to make the playoffs have been done by younger players.
If the Flames make the playoffs even if they give up the 17th pick in the draft and sit with 2 picks in the 23-32 range I am okay with it. I just don’t see this being a long term success without adding some higher picks but that could come next year (2026). Wolf having a rookie breakout was definitely one of the criteria for this team to overachieve. Huberdeau finding some form of offensive output was also needed and appears to be only getting better. Zary and Coronato are both on pace for 45-50pts helps.

End of the day this team still has 13 regulation wins in 37 games and have a -10 goal differential.
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It's 2025 and they're in a playoff spot.

I was on the rebuild side of the equation based on the roster they had this year, but I'm done with that.

Make the playoffs and shock the world.

Do that and the gap with the Florida pick isn't that big a deal.

Add two more first round selections, and don't worry about missing the top ten because a lot of the heaving lifting to make the playoffs have been done by younger players.
Exact same for me.

We're almost at the halfway mark and they are still in a playoff spot. It's getting past the they-can't-keep-this-up stage. May as well embrace a run for the playoffs, though I still don't think they make it. And I DO NOT want to see them spend futures to acquire assets to try, but I am confident that they won't do that.
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It's a lot more fun as a fan watching the team be competitive than not though, that's for sure.
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Old 01-02-2025, 04:18 PM   #294
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It is getting harder to see this team falling off completely. It will be interesting to see if Conroy can add that long term piece to help offensively to perhaps allow this team to score more and be stronger this year. I see no short term moves made but I am curious to see how aggressive Conroy is at making long term moves before the offseason.
I am excited that the team is in the playoffs but it is not that hard to see them drop into the top 10 of the draft. There is only 6 points between our current spot in the second WC to being in the top 10 of the draft.

Based on our strong home performance and not-so-good road performance, January and March will be very telling. January has 8 road games to 6 home games and March has 10 road games to 5 home games.

Looking at our current record:
Home: 13-4-3 = 29 of 40 possible points = 72.5% points earned on 20 games
Away: 5-8-4 = 14 of 34 possible points = 41.2% points earned on 17 games

If the team continues the above trends then we will probably be closer to the top 10 of the draft than the playoffs by the trade deadline. There are 26 games in that timeframe with 11 at home and 15 on the road (and the 6 game road trip from Feb 25 to Mar 6 will be particularly interesting).

Following the above numbers, we'd potentially get 16/22 points in the home games (yay) and 12/30 points on the road (ack!) and the increased amount of road games would likely put us outside of the playoffs. At that point it would just be a matter of becoming sellers and seeing if that results in a top 10 draft pick by the end of the season.

Anyway, I do hope that Huska has a plan to get more road wins.... but I can definitely see a path for the Flames to drop down the standings based on the increased percentage of road games between now and Mar 7.

For anyone curious, after Mar 7 we have 19 games (10H, 9A). March has tougher competition (7 playoff teams, 4 bottom feeders) and April has a lighter schedule with 3 playoff teams and 5 bottom feeders (including double ducks and double sharks).
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I was on the rebuild side of the equation based on the roster they had this year, but I'm done with that.
I want to ask why you are done with that? We have seen this team make the playoffs many teams over the last 35 years and lose in the first round.

Why would we want not want actual success and longer cup runs. A top ten would not guarantee it but would give us a better shot.

2015 comes to mind, feel good story and overachieved and won a round vs the rivals. I remember feeling so good about that and now i look back and its been a decade and we didn't make a single conference final despite how promising things looked because of that year.

I think the long term future will be ( or at least has a better chance) better if the pick is top 10. We are lacking star power in the pipeline. That is fairly obvious.
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I want to ask why you are done with that? We have seen this team make the playoffs many teams over the last 35 years and lose in the first round.

Why would we want not want actual success and longer cup runs. A top ten would not guarantee it but would give us a better shot.


2015 comes to mind, feel good story and overachieved and won a round vs the rivals. I remember feeling so good about that and now i look back and its been a decade and we didn't make a single conference final despite how promising things looked because of that year.

I think the long term future will be ( or at least has a better chance) better if the pick is top 10. We are lacking star power in the pipeline. That is fairly obvious.
Not answering for Bingo but I think the point for a lot of us is the top 10 pick is likely gone already anyway.
So at this point, we might as well make the playoffs.

Make the playoffs and enjoy whatever it is or miss and finish 9/10th in the West are the 2 likely options we're looking at now.
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He wasn't saying he doesn't want a rebuild, he was saying that it seems unlikely now that we'll be bottom 10 this year, so we might as well enjoy the ride of trying to make the playoffs
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There's 17 team below us in the standings whether to sort by points or point % to accommodate games in hand.
Bottom 10 is incredibly unlikely now.
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This is not a competitive team though. They scrape out weak wins in regular season stretches but 0 chance they win a playoff series. Over the last year they are 17th in point percentage. Continued mediocrity. The competitive nature of this roster is a complete mirage propped up by the majestic Dustin Wolf.

It would be a catastrophic error to not treat the team as such.
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There's 17 team below us in the standings whether to sort by points or point % to accommodate games in hand.
Bottom 10 is incredibly unlikely now.
Season is not even half over yet.
The Blues were 31st in the league on Jan 2nd 2019 and won the Cup.
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