12-30-2024, 05:09 PM
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No.. it's really not good. It's senseless and tragic.
And now those kids have to deal with the fallout of losing both parents.
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Everything you mention was locked in when he decided to do what he did. Whatever he was going through, it's irrelevant. Society, and those kids, are better off with that piece of human excrement gone.
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12-30-2024, 05:18 PM
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#42
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Join Date: May 2012
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
No.. it's really not good. It's senseless and tragic.
And now those kids have to deal with the fallout of losing both parents.
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And likely a grandpa. Awful all around.
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12-30-2024, 05:45 PM
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This story today bought back some seriously bad almost PTSD today. I had a good friend who I coached with was murdered as well as his wife and his stepson's girlfriend by his stepson a few years ago.
Those poor kids
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12-30-2024, 05:57 PM
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#44
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This story today bought back some seriously bad almost PTSD today. I had a good friend who I coached with was murdered as well as his wife and his stepson's girlfriend by his stepson a few years ago.
Those poor kids
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The one in applewood ?
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12-30-2024, 06:32 PM
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This guy studied in the same Masters program I did, but started 4 months before me. I never met the guy or took a class with him, but it's spooky to see that his Discord user in the class server is still being shown as online
His classmates must be freaking out
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12-30-2024, 06:58 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The one in applewood ?
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Al Pennylegion.
He was a great guy and I coached with him with the Cowboys.
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12-30-2024, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Al Pennylegion.
He was a great guy and I coached with him with the Cowboys.
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Yup that’s the one. He killed the GF in her Applewood apartment a few days before.
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12-30-2024, 08:51 PM
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Norm!
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The step son did, then killed Al and his wife.
####ing tragic, Al was such a great guy, and I learned a lot from him.
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12-30-2024, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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My friends cousin did the samething to his mother and step father (Billy Powers)
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12-30-2024, 09:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
The step son did, then killed Al and his wife.
####ing tragic, Al was such a great guy, and I learned a lot from him.
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I remember this. We live down the street and my wife was freaked out. Never saw that many police cars in our neighbourhood before and had no idea what was happening.
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12-30-2024, 10:17 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
My friends cousin did the samething to his mother and step father (Billy Powers)
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Oh I recall that. Was that the radio DJ?
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12-30-2024, 10:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Oh I recall that. Was that the radio DJ?
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Yup Sports Director at QR i believe for the longest time
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12-30-2024, 10:25 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
Yup Sports Director at QR i believe for the longest time
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Yeah, I remember that being a really bizarre, sad thing to hear about.
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12-30-2024, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Amethyst
Well, it's (allegedly) too late to get his wife and father-in-law the help they need.
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Well... It sounds like it's too late anyways.
It's not to say I thought things through for such an incomprehensible situation. But with kids involved, perhaps maybe I was hoping his life not immediately be considered worthless for the kids sake?
Doesn't matter now. He's gone from their lives too.
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12-30-2024, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleF
Well... It sounds like it's too late anyways.
It's not to say I thought things through for such an incomprehensible situation. But with kids involved, perhaps maybe I was hoping his life not immediately be considered worthless for the kids sake?
Doesn't matter now. He's gone from their lives too.
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I don’t think you were wrong in thinking so. People rush to clap for his death, but without really knowing the why of it, it’s hard to know if there was anything to be helped there.
It’s not like his small children are going to take any comfort in knowing he killed himself, or even just knowing he’s dead too. Now or for the rest of their lives. But it sure makes strangers happy, so they’ll call it a win.
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12-31-2024, 09:41 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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I wouldn't say I'm happy. But growing up with a father who murdered your mother and grandfather likely isn't a great life either.
Was he a victim who didn't get the mental health support he needed and it resulted in tragedy? Possibly.
Was he an abusive a****** who put on a good show for the public and finally actually killed his wife? Also possible.
We need better mental health supports AND better support for victims of domestic violence and at this point, we really don't know which situation is the case here. Possibly both.
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12-31-2024, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Step one would be some sort of government funding for it, it's pretty pathetic as is. If you aren't fortunate enough to have a good company plan, it's completely unaffordable, and that's fro the people who probably need it most.
Not that we should expect it from our current gang of paste eating elected officials, who imagine mental health treatment can be had by the dude raping your children if you confess hard enough to them. Just pray some more, god will take care of you.
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Just to be clear, Alberta health (recovery Alberta) has several free services that can be utilized.
403-266-4357 (Distress Centre - request Mental Health Crisis Triage)
https://www.albertahealthservices.ca...page11443.aspx
several levels of support both emergency and non emergency if required. Dont be afraid to ask.
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12-31-2024, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Seems a horrible situation for the children regardless. They lose both parents, or the father is in prison for 10 years thanks to our lovely justice system and then what? Never has contact with them? Explains to them why he killed their mother?
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12-31-2024, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund
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That stuff is fine for crisis intervention, but it in now way replaces long term therapy. Getting moved around constantly and re-explaining your issues can get exhausting and cause people to give up.
No, a therapist should be as a GP is. Someone you can go to when needed for mental health support, and not worry if you can afford it. They know you, your history, and can far more effectively help that way.
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12-31-2024, 10:00 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
That stuff is fine for crisis intervention, but it in now way replaces long term therapy. Getting moved around constantly and re-explaining your issues can get exhausting and cause people to give up.
No, a therapist should be as a GP is. Someone you can go to when needed for mental health support, and not worry if you can afford it. They know you, your history, and can far more effectively help that way.
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Long term supports can be accessed thru these resources as well as crisis interventions.
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