Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Lol!

Although Pierre's personality and attack dog mentality is beyond tiresome a lot of times, I have no doubt that that if they win the upcoming election they will be a serious party with serious policies. Other political leaders have come out with serious conversations in the last few weeks. The only people who don't look serious or even mature enough is the PM and his top leadership.

The level of collapse for the Liberals is indicative of just how serious they were. They brushed aside so many concerns from so many Canadians that it's no wonder that everything the CPC says, sticks with a lot of Canadians.

The Liberals and Trudeau have been playing theatre for so long, their own team is literally calling out their star player and management.

Even veteran political analysts and pundits are shaking their heads with a reaction of "really?" Things are beyond perplexing for them because of the lack of seriousness associated with events in the last few weeks.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Although Pierre's personality and attack dog mentality is beyond tiresome a lot of times, I have no doubt that that if they win the upcoming election they will be a serious party with serious policies. Other political leaders have come out with serious conversations in the last few weeks. The only people who don't look serious or even mature enough is the PM and his top leadership.

The level of collapse for the Liberals is indicative of just how serious they were. They brushed aside so many concerns from so many Canadians that it's no wonder that everything the CPC says, sticks with a lot of Canadians.

The Liberals and Trudeau have been playing theatre for so long, their own team is literally calling out their star player and management.

Even veteran political analysts and pundits are shaking their heads with a reaction of "really?" Things are beyond perplexing for them because of the lack of seriousness associated with events in the last few weeks.

What gives you that impresssion? Was it when he said he’d fire the Bank of Canada governors? Maybe it was when he said we should be investing in Bitcoin and crypto? Maybe it was the idea of pre-emptively suspend charter rights?

I mean come on. This guy is not a serious politician. He is riding the wave of anti-Trudeau sentiment, and I’m not suggesting he loses. It’s just that people are voting against Trudeau and the Liberals more than voting for him or any policy they’ve got planned.

[Fuzz]

Wait until a campaign starts, and people actually see how unpalatable that wiener really is. But don't take my word for it, take it from someone who worked with him:

[PepsiFree]

Pierre won’t even get his security clearance and is just maintaining the lie as to why with the confidence that his followers don’t actually care about anything serious.

He is not a serious person and the Conservatives aren’t a serious party, they’re just the other guy. We’ll go through 4 years of axing the taxes and owning the libs and everything will be worse off, and then their supporters will come up with a new reason why when everyone knows it’s just “they aren’t the Liberals.” And of course, once that reason gets boring, the Liberals will win again.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Slava

He is riding the wave of anti-Trudeau sentiment,

You just described almost every election ever. The leader in the polls is riding anti whoever is in power currently wave. So he is the only one that isn't a a serious politician, LIKE YOU ARE REALLY GRASPING HERE. lol

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Good lord are we gonna get ####ed so hard.

I dont even plan on voting Con, but yeah.

But think about it...thats how bad everyone else has been.

Its the same as Trump. Yeah, he won, but you fought him like a loser.

Politics in this world is just atrocious.

[Doctorfever]

https://apple.news/ARes27v7wRQGcJKvxgbFfEw

Angus posted to Facebook that he would “put country first” and would “not vote with Pierre Poilievre to force an election.” Poilievre’s Conservatives have a massive lead in the polls and would be heavily favoured to win a majority government if an election were held today.

Wonder if he would vote against Singh, or if he is helping to soften the blow of the NDP not supporting non confidence vote. Either way it seems strange.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://apple.news/ARes27v7wRQGcJKvxgbFfEw



Wonder if he would vote against Singh, or if he is helping to soften the blow of the NDP not supporting non confidence vote. Either way it seems strange.

What’s strange about it? Every sane person, including politicians, think both Trudeau and Polievre are jokes and would prefer to see change through upgrading the leadership than having an early election.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

You just described almost every election ever. The leader in the polls is riding anti whoever is in power currently wave. So he is the only one that isn't a a serious politician, LIKE YOU ARE REALLY GRASPING HERE. lol

What policy does he have that people are voting for? Like his axe the tax is fine, but what happens when prices don’t decline? What happens when grocery prices go up another say 2.5% a year during his term?

But sure, he has lots of policies that people have fallen in love with and can’t wait to vote for to see them implemented. We’re just not sure what any of them are.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Slava

What policy does he have that people are voting for? Like his axe the tax is fine, but what happens when prices don’t decline? What happens when grocery prices go up another say 2.5% a year during his term?

But sure, he has lots of policies that people have fallen in love with and can’t wait to vote for to see them implemented. We’re just not sure what any of them are.

https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp...3517f7a575.pdf

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Wormius

What’s strange about it? Every sane person, including politicians, think both Trudeau and Polievre are jokes and would prefer to see change through upgrading the leadership than having an early election.

Strange that he thinks he would “put the country first” by continuing to support a liberal government that only 16% of Canadians would vote for. That’s seems like he is not putting the country first.

Just my opinion.

[MelBridgeman]

it's Charlie Angus, he's not playing with a full deck of cards.

[GGG]

nm

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Strange that he thinks he would “put the country first” by continuing to support a liberal government that only 16% of Canadians would vote for. That’s seems like he is not putting the country first.

Just my opinion.

I personally don’t believe the world is going to end between now and the next scheduled election. If either party can find a better leader by then, I think that’s worth a try. Even though we vote for individual MPs and not the PM directly, we’re still a lot like the US and are basically voting for the leader. The LPC and CPC aren’t entirely garbage. They can surely find somebody within their ranks that isn’t cringe. The biggest concern now is dealing with the US. I’d appreciate somebody who isn’t going to kowtow to the POTUS like he’s a demigod, but not antagonize needlessly either. If Polievre is heir apparent, it would be nice if he stood up tor Canada instead of humming and hawing whenever the incoming POTUS makes a derogatory joke about Canada. It’s like watching George McFly interacting with Biff.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I personally don’t believe the world is going to end between now and the next scheduled election. If either party can find a better leader by then, I think that’s worth a try. Even though we vote for individual MPs and not the PM directly, we’re still a lot like the US and are basically voting for the leader. The LPC and CPC aren’t entirely garbage. They can surely find somebody within their ranks that isn’t cringe. The biggest concern now is dealing with the US. I’d appreciate somebody who isn’t going to kowtow to the POTUS like he’s a demigod, but not antagonize needlessly either. If Polievre is heir apparent, it would be nice if he stood up tor Canada instead of humming and hawing whenever the incoming POTUS makes a derogatory joke about Canada. It’s like watching George McFly interacting with Biff.

I suspect that no matter what PP is thinking, he would probably hurt himself in the polls rather than help. Best he keeps semi-quiet and let the Liberals and NDP do all the talking. Seems every time they open their mouths they drop in the polls, so let them do the heavy lifting for you.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

it's Charlie Angus, he's not playing with a full deck of cards.

Not sure why he would even bother. Pretty sure he’s already said he’s not running again.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Have we ever had a separatist party as the official opposition. Not that it will make a difference if the Cons get a large majority, it becames more about the memes at that point.


But Trudeau is literally going to Kim Campbell his party, and maybe its really needed and the Liberals need a chance to sweep away Trudeau and his friends and rebuild the Liberals back to a more center/center left party with fiscal sanity.


I just don't see anyone in the current Liberal Bench that is going to gain back the trust of Canadian voters.

The bloc have been the official opposition previously.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by chemgear

I mean, it could always get worse. Or better. Depending on what you are hoping for.

Polls are usually inaccurate.

But when it’s 241 to 6. You can probably put some money on the conservatives.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp...3517f7a575.pdf

I’m not reading all of that from 15 months ago, and almost none of the people who are planning to vote for them will either.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Hanging hats on polls taken over Christmas when no election has been called may lead to disappointment. The Liberals will do poorly, but not this bad. This is a reflection of how voters feel, not how they will vote when the time comes.

By all account Trudeau is going to double down even more.

Hard to see this getting any better for the Liberals.