2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They don't have to trade him this year, but he is worth more than he will be next year.

He should be worth more this year but I don’t think we can say that unequivocally.

There are a number of factors that determine a players value at any given time.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They don't have to trade him this year, but he is worth more than he will be next year.

If you aren’t getting a top 2 or 3 prospect in an organization plus a first it is not worth it this year imo.

Lucius may be the 5th best prospect in the Jets state under 23 and Walton is probably not even in the top 10.

Not sure Lucius would even be in the top 75 prospects in the league under 23.

If they want him this year I would let them know that Rasmus for lambert and a 2026 1st would do the trick.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Bingo, do you have the 'cgy puck' license plate? I've parked beside you a few times at the store. We must be neighbors.

If not, I'm curious which user does.

That would be us!

[stemit14]

Would prefer Lambert in an Andersson trade but could see them pushing for Yegar instead. Lambert seems like the obvious replacement for Ehlers if he leaves in free agency I still like Yegar as a depth center but I think he has less potential to be a top 6 forward. As a prospect, he reminds me of Dube when he was at the same age. Either way, I would prefer a 2026 first round pick in the package instead of a 2025 1st round pick.

I’d be fine with either of these returns for Andersson from Winnipeg:

Yegar + 2026 1st round pick + 2025 2nd round pick + 2026 3rd round pick

Or

Lambert + 2025 1st round pick + 2025 3rd round pick

There are other center prospects from other teams I would prefer over what Winnipeg has (Iginla, Ritchie, Helenius or Danielson for example) but I think there is less of a fit with those teams as trade partners and I really doubt those teams would trade those prospects. Winnipeg has the assets and the need and would potentially be willing to make the trade since they are in their contending window.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If you are trading Rasmus I hope it is either for multiple picks or one good prospect.

Lucius has never really put up numbers at any level and Walton was a 6th round pick.

Flames also don’t need to trade Rasmus this year, if a team wants him they should overpay not underpay.

I've never been a big fan of Lucius, and I would agree that injuries have certainly taken away most of his luster as a prospect- but if you look at his stats, he certainly has put up big numbers in Junior and did pretty good (19 points in 24 games) in his only year in college, and at times in the AHL. If I'm a GM though, I might pass on him too.

As for Walton, who cares that he was a 6th-round pick? Let's see where he's ranked as a prospect after the season is over. My bet is that he's going be a lot more highly regarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmHp7ilhOM

In any return for Andersson, my hope is for a first-rounder above all- but as with many trades, I think we may be setting ourselves up for disappointment with high expectations. Hope I'm wrong....

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I've never been a big fan of Lucius, and I would agree that injuries have certainly taken away most of his luster as a prospect- but if you look at his stats, he certainly has put up big numbers in Junior and did pretty good (19 points in 24 games) in his only year in college, and at times in the AHL. If I'm a GM though, I might pass on him too.

As for Walton, who cares that he was a 6th-round pick? Let's see where he's ranked as a prospect after the season is over. My bet is that he's going be a lot more highly regarded.

In any return for Andersson, my hope is for a first-rounder above all- but as with many trades, I think we may be setting ourselves up for disappointment with high expectations. Hope I'm wrong....

I would prefer Conroy set his price and stick to it. He did that with Markstrom and probably got a better deal than what they were offering at the deadline (Bahl is definitely better than Holtz if Holtz was being offered).

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would prefer Conroy set his price and stick to it. He did that with Markstrom and probably got a better deal than what they were offering at the deadline (Bahl is definitely better than Holtz if Holtz was being offered).

Well, that's just it- Hanifin was 27 years old when we traded him, and granted, he was heading into UFA, but we got a first, a C prospect in Miromanov, and a conditional third. At the time, Hanifin had 35 points in 61 games. I expect to get more for Andersson with 1 more year remaining on his contract, but how much more can we expect?

Markstrom was one of the best goalies in the league, and we got a first and an up-and-comer in Kevin Bahl.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Well, that's just it- Hanifin was 27 years old when we traded him, and granted, he was heading into UFA, but we got a first, a C prospect in Miromanov, and a conditional third. At the time, Hanifin had 35 points in 61 games. I expect to get more for Andersson with 1 more year remaining on his contract, but how much more can we expect?

Markstrom was one of the best goalies in the league, and we got a first and an up-and-comer in Kevin Bahl.

I’m expecting a 15ish overall pick and some other toss in’s if he gets traded this deadline. Hronek and the first Chychrun trades are fair comparables. If he goes at next year’s deadline then the same as Hanifin.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’m expecting a 15ish overall pick and some other toss in’s if he gets traded this deadline. Hronek and the first Chychrun trades are fair comparables. If he goes at next year’s deadline then the same as Hanifin.

There ya go- I couldn’t remember any other decent D that have been dealt recently, and those two are good comparables. It would nice to get a combo of two prime assets, but I think we’re expecting too much, as usual.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Well, that's just it- Hanifin was 27 years old when we traded him, and granted, he was heading into UFA, but we got a first, a C prospect in Miromanov, and a conditional third. At the time, Hanifin had 35 points in 61 games. I expect to get more for Andersson with 1 more year remaining on his contract, but how much more can we expect?

Markstrom was one of the best goalies in the league, and we got a first and an up-and-comer in Kevin Bahl.

I think with Rasmus it depends on how aggressive he is around his NTC. Rumour at the time was that Hanifin was quite aggressive in terms of where he could go.

I would wait until the summer anyway, the Flames are in a playoff race and there is no rush to trade him. Someone blows you away sure, if not try to move him in the summer when you theoretically have more teams in the hunt.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think with Rasmus it depends on how aggressive he is around his NTC. Rumour at the time was that Hanifin was quite aggressive in terms of where he could go.

I would wait until the summer anyway, the Flames are in a playoff race and there is no rush to trade him. Someone blows you away sure, if not try to move him in the summer when you theoretically have more teams in the hunt.

I was having a look at this yesterday, but it’s been a little under 7 months since the Flames made a trade of significance with the Mangiapane deal. They did swap picks at the draft, but nothing since.

I’m starting to wonder if we’re going to see no trades at all from the Flames from draft to draft. With Mantha done, Kuzmenko imploding, and the goali market shriveling up to basically Carolina I think there exists the possibility that we don’t see a trade until the seasons over.,

[Paulie Walnuts]

Andersson numbers are quickly going down since his hot start. So you have to take everything into account about timing of a trade. I don’t think it will have much of an impact today but if you keep him into next season and the drop in play continues it could lead to a lower return.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Andersson numbers are quickly going down since his hot start. So you have to take everything into account about timing of a trade. I don’t think it will have much of an impact today but if you keep him into next season and the drop in play continues it could lead to a lower return.

Yeah that's a risk too.

[SuperMatt18]

I still feel like the best time to move him would have been the 2024 draft but hopefully his value doesn't decline too much.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would prefer Conroy set his price and stick to it. He did that with Markstrom and probably got a better deal than what they were offering at the deadline (Bahl is definitely better than Holtz if Holtz was being offered).

Wasn't the original offer a 2nd and Holtz, flames wanted more for retention, as I recall.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I think with Rasmus it depends on how aggressive he is around his NTC. Rumour at the time was that Hanifin was quite aggressive in terms of where he could go.

I would wait until the summer anyway, the Flames are in a playoff race and there is no rush to trade him. Someone blows you away sure, if not try to move him in the summer when you theoretically have more teams in the hunt.

The earlier they trade him the less control Andersson will be able to exert via his NTC. If Andersson wants out and the Flames get an offer they think is fair then he should be gone.

[Sandman]

Andersson has 5 points in the last 25 games....

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I've never been a big fan of Lucius, and I would agree that injuries have certainly taken away most of his luster as a prospect- but if you look at his stats, he certainly has put up big numbers in Junior and did pretty good (19 points in 24 games) in his only year in college, and at times in the AHL. If I'm a GM though, I might pass on him too.

As for Walton, who cares that he was a 6th-round pick? Let's see where he's ranked as a prospect after the season is over. My bet is that he's going be a lot more highly regarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmHp7ilhOM

In any return for Andersson, my hope is for a first-rounder above all- but as with many trades, I think we may be setting ourselves up for disappointment with high expectations. Hope I'm wrong....

So another Matthew Phillips?

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Andersson has 5 points in the last 25 games....

and is a top pairing d-man.
Points are not everything.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Andersson has 5 points in the last 25 games....

With a coach that doesn't know how to deploy a team and also lacks major firepower. He also is paired with Bahl who is good defensively but can't hit the broad side of a barn with his shot. Play Andersson with Weegar up to the trade deadline if the plan is to sell.