Emergency Alert - Dangerous man with Gun NW Calgary

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by GGG

Is anyone else’s phone getting continuous alerts. I have gotten this same alert over 80 times and dismissing it doesn’t seem to help. I’m with freedom

I’m with freedom too and I’m fine. Hard reset on the phone?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GGG

Is anyone else’s phone getting continuous alerts. I have gotten this same alert over 80 times and dismissing it doesn’t seem to help. I’m with freedom

Well then settle down Mr. Kaminski...

[BagoPucks]

Heart breaking stuff.. thoughts and prayers to the people involved. We should all listen more. World would be a better place.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by BagoPucks

Heart breaking stuff.. thoughts and prayers to the people involved. We should all listen more. World would be a better place.

Ask more questions, be more present, respond thoughtfully instead of just the usual platitudes.

Especially for men, being responded to with a hollow equivalent of "there, there" after being honest or vulnerable, nothing will drive them back into silence and withdrawal more effectively.

Any opportunity where you can be real and empathize with another person is worth pursuing. Who knows what that bit of authentic connection can do for them (or keep them from doing).

Most of what makes therapy effective for patients is just being listened to in an intimate setting. That doesn't have to be reserved just for a professional though.


That's not to say we know what drove him to do this nor can anything justify it, but it's worth saying anyways.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Titan2

That FB page is a pretty sad scroll if that is him. Two kids and a wife that appeared to adore him. Got into a master's program. Gone.

We need to normalize seeking help for mental health and pay for it like any other essential medical intervention.

Someone I know is pretty certain he went to school with him. Said that he'd often get stressed out pretty easily back then.

Completely agreed about normalizing mental health help. Very sad to see all of this loss and pain. Hopefully it's not too late to get him the help he needs.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well then settle down Mr. Kaminski...

Too early man.

And you wonder why people call you out?

And I like you. For an accountant.

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Someone I know is pretty certain he went to school with him. Said that he'd often get stressed out pretty easily back then.

Completely agreed about normalizing mental health help. Very sad to see all of this loss and pain. Hopefully it's not too late to get him the help he needs.

Well, it's (allegedly) too late to get his wife and father-in-law the help they need.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Ask more questions, be more present, respond thoughtfully instead of just the usual platitudes.

Especially for men, being responded to with a hollow equivalent of "there, there" after being honest or vulnerable, nothing will drive them back into silence and withdrawal more effectively.

Any opportunity where you can be real and empathize with another person is worth pursuing. Who knows what that bit of authentic connection can do for them (or keep them from doing).

Most of what makes therapy effective for patients is just being listened to in an intimate setting. That doesn't have to be reserved just for a professional though.


That's not to say we know what drove him to do this nor can anything justify it, but it's worth saying anyways.

To share an experience. Because I am the true hero. Actually, so maybe people can relate and recognize an opportunity.

A friend was in a violently traumatic, life-threatening situation. I heard about it several days later. I sent him a text, how ya doing kind of thing. I know about PTSD, and this would qualify. My therapist works with the police and fire department in this area. I opened up to him about her and told him he should see her. He was hesitant but appreciated it. I told him I love him; I think it shook him a bit as that is not how he talks to friends, and then he reciprocated. The next day, he was driving and was flinching at the snowflakes hitting the windshield. He called her, and she helped him.

A simple text, an open expression of caring, sharing my experience, recommending he get help. It's pretty easy to do.

He is well on the way to recovery. I shudder to think how he would have managed on his own.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Someone I know is pretty certain he went to school with him. Said that he'd often get stressed out pretty easily back then.

Completely agreed about normalizing mental health help. Very sad to see all of this loss and pain. Hopefully it's not too late to get him the help he needs.

Yeah, people with emotional regulation issues probably need help the most.

Unless they actively learn some constructive coping mechanisms and strategies and work through what experiences made them so easy to fly off the handle (and let's face it, most don't without intervention), then their issues are likely to persist through adulthood when stressors only ramp up and multiply. But their ability to deal with stess hasn't changed or improved, and coping methods become maladaptive, like alcoholism/substance abuse.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Someone I know is pretty certain he went to school with him. Said that he'd often get stressed out pretty easily back then.

Completely agreed about normalizing mental health help. Very sad to see all of this loss and pain. Hopefully it's not too late to get him the help he needs.

I think normalizing mental health is way easier said than done, in 95% of time I regretted saying I was having issues. That’s why the slogans make me wretch. I’m any sort of competitive environment that stuff is golden. If you asked me what would the number one employer in this city that will not do the right thing it’s that one. I know I put of a lot of employer on this one that is probably not warranted with that but I would never mention mental health at that shop.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Titan2

To share an experience. Because I am the true hero. Actually, so maybe people can relate and recognize an opportunity.

A friend was in a violently traumatic, life-threatening situation. I heard about it several days later. I sent him a text, how ya doing kind of thing. I know about PTSD, and this would qualify. My therapist works with the police and fire department in this area. I opened up to him about her and told him he should see her. He was hesitant but appreciated it. I told him I love him; I think it shook him a bit as that is not how he talks to friends, and then he reciprocated. The next day, he was driving and was flinching at the snowflakes hitting the windshield. He called her, and she helped him.

A simple text, an open expression of caring, sharing my experience, recommending he get help. It's pretty easy to do.

He is well on the way to recovery. I shudder to think how he would have managed on his own.

And never say a cliche or get excuses or eat more red meat or mention what is good in their life and many people should be so fortunate (especially if it’s true) and/or to think about that or give the mental health phone/link.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by fotze2

I think normalizing mental health is way easier said than done, in 95% of time I regretted saying I was having issues. That’s why the slogans make me wretch. I’m any sort of competitive environment that stuff is golden. If you asked me what would the number one employer in this city that will not do the right thing it’s that one. I know I put of step with that but I would never mention that at that shop.

This just makes the point that it is not normalized. I agree with you and I work in a 'professional' setting. It needs to get to the point that it is as regular as going to the dentist. Will it? Maybe not even in my lifetime. And that is sad.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by fotze2

I think normalizing mental health is way easier said than done, in 95% of time I regretted saying I was having issues. That’s why the slogans make me wretch. I’m any sort of competitive environment that stuff is golden. If you asked me what would the number one employer in this city that will not do the right thing it’s that one. I know I put of step with that but I would never mention that at that shop.

Which shop? The City?

Good to see the morphine/gummies kicking in by your spelling!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Titan2

This just makes the point that it is not normalized. I agree with you and I work in a 'professional' setting. It needs to get to the point that it is as regular as going to the dentist. Will it? Maybe not even in my lifetime. And that is sad.

Step one would be some sort of government funding for it, it's pretty pathetic as is. If you aren't fortunate enough to have a good company plan, it's completely unaffordable, and that's fro the people who probably need it most.


Not that we should expect it from our current gang of paste eating elected officials, who imagine mental health treatment can be had by the dude raping your children if you confess hard enough to them. Just pray some more, god will take care of you.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Titan2

This just makes the point that it is not normalized. I agree with you and I work in a 'professional' setting. It needs to get to the point that it is as regular as going to the dentist. Will it? Maybe not even in my lifetime. And that is sad.

And the non-normalized reality we live in contributes to the regret of bringing those things up. The response is usually awkward and short so we shelf it quickly and go back to how we did things before.

People, especially in old school or professional environments are used to people bottling things up, so the odd time they don't, people on the other end feel like fish out of water and don't know how to respond. We're used to brushing everything back under the rug as quickly and with as few words as possible. Just say a kind thing and move on, essentially. We have to learn how to be more accepting, inviting, and inquisitive in response to someone bringing up their distress. That's part of how we get there. It's uncomfortable, but we have to push through that. I think on the other side is a much happier world, quite honestly. We're all dying on some level to be able to connect in that way. It's a change we all want and we will be better for it.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Step one would be some sort of government funding for it, it's pretty pathetic as is. If you aren't fortunate enough to have a good company plan, it's completely unaffordable, and that's fro the people who probably need it most.


Not that we should expect it from our current gang of paste eating elected officials, who imagine mental health treatment can be had by the dude raping your children if you confess hard enough to them. Just pray some more, god will take care of you.

I have a generally decent plan—but it is pathetic for this care: $ 40 per visit to a max of $400/year. My therapist charges $200/hr. I can afford it, but it is a shame you must be a lawyer to get good health care. I was seeing a different one through the primary care network. The first two were terrible. The third opened her clinic, and I was priced out as unemployed at the time. What a system.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Titan2

I have a generally decent plan—but it is pathetic for this care: $ 40 per visit to a max of $400/year. My therapist charges $200/hr. I can afford it, but it is a shame you must be a lawyer to get good health care. I was seeing a different one through the primary care network. The first two were terrible. The third opened her clinic, and I was priced out as unemployed at the time. What a system.

I actually have a decent relationship with our hr person. Told me I should phone the help line when they saw I was freaking out in meetings and talking in past tense. She said the max amounts are jokes.

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[Fuzzy14]

good to see he took the cowards way out. pos.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

No.. it's really not good. It's senseless and tragic.

And now those kids have to deal with the fallout of losing both parents.