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[Hackey]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Can you expand on how being trans is a mental issue?

Can you explain how it is not? If you have an opinion why not share it and have an actual conversation.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Can you explain how it is not? If you have an opinion why not share it and have an actual conversation.

Why not indeed…

[calgarybean]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Can you explain how it is not? If you have an opinion why not share it and have an actual conversation.

NPR has a good read that goes through the different terminology of gender identity. In some cases there may be mental issues that need counseling or more to treat dysmorphia. Painting anything with a blanket statement is short sighted and narrow minded. If you continue doing your own research you’ll see that gender identity is wide ranging. In today’s age this shouldn’t be an issue. Hope this article gives you a starting point to understanding and acceptance of others.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/99631...on-guide-lgbtq

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No I think you’re confused. No one is triggered they are all just laughing at how embarrassing it is for a grown man to have that as his profile pic.

Nothing bad ass about having your ear grazed by a bullet.

Getting WAY off topic here, but he didn't have his ear grazed by a bullet. His ear was most likely cut from hit the podium while ducking.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Hackey

You exemplify why the left is dieing. You care more about shaming people and patting yourself on the back than the actual issues. You can't even have a conversation without getting emotional. You can't even acknowledge Gullfoss was doing the actual thing you claim to support.

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

[Bandwagon Surfer]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Can you explain how it is not? If you have an opinion why not share it and have an actual conversation.

You are the one who made the claim, it is your job to provide evidence. These attempts to avoid taking responsibility for your own words by trying to flip it is just pathetically transparent. Grow up and make your own arguments for yourself.

Having a conversation requires all parties to honestly participate. Just squaking bigotry then constantly shifting topics and goalposts to avoid ownership and responsibility is the opposite of having a conversation. Look at yourself and your own behaviour if you want an actual conversation.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Without the full conversation I don't even know what the context was.

At the end of the day I don't really have a strong opinion on trans issues though. Seems like a mental issue. Which doesn't mean it's not real or people don't deserve to treat it how they want. I do think there is definitely a recent societal aspect to it that has made it more prevalent which is where I think we need to be careful when it comes to children and their decision making for something life altering.

Yeah, because there are now avenues to seek treatment and acquire diverse gender-affirming care that didn't exist before.

The processes for proper care, whether adult or child, is already in place and being addressed by professionals in the field. We're actively taking steps backwards because people are finding utility in hiding their bigotry behind children because they think it will be more palatable. It's not, and it's dangerous.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon Surfer

You are the one who made the claim, it is your job to provide evidence. These attempts to avoid taking responsibility for your own words by trying to flip it is just pathetically transparent. Grow up and make your own arguments for yourself.

Having a conversation requires all parties to honestly participate. Just squaking bigotry then constantly shifting topics and goalposts to avoid ownership and responsibility is the opposite of having a conversation. Look at yourself and your own behaviour if you want an actual conversation.

Yeah but then how is he going to bring up the left “dieing” and try to attach himself to GullFoss in weird ways?

Honest conversation? Yuck.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Hackey

You exemplify why the left is dieing. You care more about shaming people and patting yourself on the back then the actual issues. You can't even have a conversation without getting emotional. You can't even acknowledge Gullfoss was doing the actual thing you claim to support.

Here's a real issue since you care so much about 'actual issues': Trump is threatening to impose tariffs on Canada. That is bad for us and them. And you have his picture as your avatar. Stop being a clown.

I have the Cavalry FC team as my avatar because I actually hate them and don't support them in any way, shape, or form. See how clownish that is?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Hackey

You exemplify why the left is dieing. You care more about shaming people and patting yourself on the back then the actual issues. You can't even have a conversation without getting emotional. You can't even acknowledge Gullfoss was doing the actual thing you claim to support.

You just described MAGA

Originally Posted by Hackey

Without the full conversation I don't even know what the context was.

At the end of the day I don't really have a strong opinion on trans issues though. Seems like a mental issue. Which doesn't mean it's not real or people don't deserve to treat it how they want. I do think there is definitely a recent societal aspect to it that has made it more prevalent which is where I think we need to be careful when it comes to children and their decision making for something life altering.

Why don't we just let people do what they want to do. Why are you advocating for infringing on Freedom?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by calgarybean

NPR has a good read that goes through the different terminology of gender identity. In some cases there may be mental issues that need counseling or more to treat dysmorphia. Painting anything with a blanket statement is short sighted and narrow minded. If you continue doing your own research you’ll see that gender identity is wide ranging. In today’s age this shouldn’t be an issue. Hope this article gives you a starting point to understanding and acceptance of others.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/99631...on-guide-lgbtq

I appreciate the link. That seems to be a good base level entry into the topic, most of which I already knew. What is really going on in peoples heads though is extremely complicated and likely different for everyone.

In terms of acceptance of others though that is just a given regardless of who they are. I 100% follow that in real life and treat everyone the same. I do find it quite hypocritical though that the same people who will try to preach acceptance, really don't follow that when it comes to something they disagree with.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon Surfer

You are the one who made the claim, it is your job to provide evidence. These attempts to avoid taking responsibility for your own words by trying to flip it is just pathetically transparent. Grow up and make your own arguments for yourself.

Having a conversation requires all parties to honestly participate. Just squaking bigotry then constantly shifting topics and goalposts to avoid ownership and responsibility is the opposite of having a conversation. Look at yourself and your own behaviour if you want an actual conversation.

Made the claim? If someone is born a male and THINKS they are a female how is there no mental aspect to that? That seems quite straight forward. So if you disagree feel free to explain.

Where is bigotry in that statement? Did I say they are lesser? Did you just conveniently ignore the part where I said it doesn't mean it isn't real or they don't deserve to treat it how they want?

Here is your chance to educate rather than trying to feel all high and mighty. If I actually am uneducated isn't that part of the journey to learn and grow? Does that make someone a bigot? That's quite the leap to just toss out that accusation at someone.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Yeah, because there are now avenues to seek treatment and acquire diverse gender-affirming care that didn't exist before.

The processes for proper care, whether adult or child, is already in place and being addressed by professionals in the field. We're actively taking steps backwards because people are finding utility in hiding their bigotry behind children because they think it will be more palatable. It's not, and it's dangerous.

Do you really believe every person who expresses concern over children and this topic is only doing so as a cover because they hate all transgender people? That just seems like a massive leap to me. We all know children have extremely poor decision making skills which is why we protect them in many ways. We know that children don't know who they are and part of growing up is finding yourself. The person you were at 12 is likely vastly different from the person you are today. So to not see any validity in the protection of children seems like you're purposefully being a bit blind to the big picture.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Cappy

You just described MAGA


Why don't we just let people do what they want to do. Why are you advocating for infringing on Freedom?

Where have I ever said anything differently? I could care less what an adult wants to do. When it comes to children yes I think that is a different situation that might require more nuance and discussion. But ultimately at the end of the day if you want to put your child on hormone blockers I'm not going to be protesting in the streets.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Do you really believe every person who expresses concern over children and this topic is only doing so as a cover because they hate all transgender people? That just seems like a massive leap to me. We all know children have extremely poor decision making skills which is why we protect them in many ways. We know that children don't know who they are and part of growing up is finding yourself. The person you were at 12 is likely vastly different from the person you are today. So to not see any validity in the protection of children seems like you're purposefully being a bit blind to the big picture.

Yes I do. 100%. If they really cared for kids they would start by looking at the things that actually hurt kids. The Venn diagram of people who "care" about trans issues hurting kids and pro gun people is pretty much a circle...go look at what kills kids in the US.

If you really care about kids you look at nutrition, family support, gun laws, driver's licence laws, and a large other list before you get to this imagined "trans safety issue".

These decisions should be dealt with between doctors, patients and parents if minors are involved.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Here's a real issue since you care so much about 'actual issues': Trump is threatening to impose tariffs on Canada. That is bad for us and them. And you have his picture as your avatar. Stop being a clown.

I have the Cavalry FC team as my avatar because I actually hate them and don't support them in any way, shape, or form. See how clownish that is?

Trump is likely threatening tariffs to get countries to remove or lighten the tariffs they have on the USA. And at the end of the day if he's doing what is best for his country that's his job. We should be doing the exact same thing.

But more importantly its an avatar and if you can't see past it then are you a person worth having a discussion with in the first place? I think Trudeau has no business running a country but I don't hate the guy, nor do I hate anyone who supports him. If you're going to preach understanding and acceptance then apply it across everything.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Where have I ever said anything differently? I could care less what an adult wants to do. When it comes to children yes I think that is a different situation that might require more nuance and discussion. But ultimately at the end of the day if you want to put your child on hormone blockers I'm not going to be protesting in the streets.

parents rights.
isnt that the saying?

[rogermexico]

Can all of you please knock it off and go argue in the off topic or, I don't know, go to Reddit or something? Fight in direct messages? What on earth are any of you trying to accomplish?

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by rogermexico

Can all of you please knock it off and go argue in the off topic or, I don't know, go to Reddit or something? Fight in direct messages? What on earth are any of you trying to accomplish?

not learning how to use the multi quote function for starters

[rogermexico]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

not learning how to use the multi quote function for starters

Ok, I got a laugh out of that.