2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Elias Petterson must be crapping his pants with the Buffalo rumors. His NMC doesn't kick in until next season, imagine getting dealt to that tire fire before it does.

What would be the rationale for either side to have a NMC for 7 of 8 years of a new contract, but not the first year?

Allvin - "We want to sign you to a massive 8-year deal, but we want the flexibility to trade you in year 1 without any restrictions"

Elias - "Sounds good to me"

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Elias Petterson must be crapping his pants with the Buffalo rumors. His NMC doesn't kick in until next season, imagine getting dealt to that tire fire before it does.

It's closer to home though!

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Whatever Sabres fans are left don't even care anymore. Who cares if they acquire Pettersen? He'd just continue to suck or more likely suck even worse for 'X' # of years til they trade him to a real team where he then blossoms into a star.

Thoughts and prayers.
Sabres fans deserve much better.

If I am their management, I stay the course and try to bring in some veteran leadership to fix the culture. This year is a write off.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

What would be the rationale for either side to have a NMC for 7 of 8 years of a new contract, but not the first year?

Allvin - "We want to sign you to a massive 8-year deal, but we want the flexibility to trade you in year 1 without any restrictions"

Elias - "Sounds good to me"

Players need to meet age and/or seasons played requirements to qualify for NMCs in their contracts.

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1869076756462014925

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ThatHighGuy

I would think Cooley makes more sense for them as he can be up as the backup while Stolarz is hurt and then go down to the minors once he's back. Can't see the same with Vladar.

The Flames want Cooley to be their back-up next year.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I don’t think Vladar is significantly worse, I just don’t think he’s significantly better. And that goes for the goaltending market at large.

The Toronto goalies have career save percentages of .913 and .916. They are both excellent this year at .918 and .927.

Vladar is at .885 and .892.

Yeah, he's definitely not significantly better. He's letting in .84 more goals per game than Stolarz, and .45 more goals per game that Woll.

Stolarz has saved 9.3 goals above average, Woll 5.9, Vladar -2.5.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ThatHighGuy

I would think Cooley makes more sense for them as he can be up as the backup while Stolarz is hurt and then go down to the minors once he's back. Can't see the same with Vladar.

He would need to pass through waivers to be sent down.

And he's Calgary's back up of the future as well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Players need to meet age and/or seasons played requirements to qualify for NMCs in their contracts.

Never mind, I see what you were answering.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1869076756462014925

I watched the Sabres last night and have to admit that Cozens was noticeably bad (despite being the only scorer).

Would need some serious scouting if the Flames were going to try for him.
Would much rather try to get Helanius.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1869076756462014925

Reading through the comments and the OPs hot take of Ferraro "Ripping him to shreds" got shut down pretty hard.

There's obviously issues with the player and Sabers. And I still think Cozens blossoms elsewhere. Hopefully in a Flaming C.

[united]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1869076756462014925

Haven't heard the clip but Don Granato, Ray's brother-in-law, coached Cozens for three seasons also.

[ThatHighGuy]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Flames want Cooley to be their back-up next year.

Oh for sure, it doesn't make any sense for the Flames to do that trade but I can see why Toronto would like Cooley.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Reading through the comments and the OPs hot take of Ferraro "Ripping him to shreds" got shut down pretty hard.

There's obviously issues with the player and Sabers. And I still think Cozens blossoms elsewhere. Hopefully in a Flaming C.

Yeah, I just listened to it. He didn't rip Cozens to shreds at all.
He questioned the Sabres signing long term deals with unproven players and suggested Cozens is more of a 20G centre as opposed to a 40G one.

[CroCop]

Cozens wasn’t universally loved by his teammates in Lethbridge either. I’m not a fan of the idea of him as a Flame.

[Badgers Nose]

Probably safe to say that if Cozens was the guy they wanted, Flames would already have him. Buffalo has been open for business for a while.

I think the flames best opportunities are going to be moving seasoned gritty players to contenders or teams like Minnesota whose window has just opened. I’m thinking of guys like Kadri and Coleman. We probably get pics and prospects back. Maybe a guy like Rossi or Bourque could be had.

Then, there are the dumpster fire teams that seem to be giving up on young talented prospects. Buffalo and Anaheim fit this category. So then it becomes a question of how much and how quickly can you extract that talent from those teams before they put someone with common sense in charge? So here I’m thinking of guys like McTavish Zegras Helenius and Cozens.

Maybe it’s the old Viking in me, but I smell pillage.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Probably safe to say that if Cozens was the guy they wanted, Flames would already have him. Buffalo has been open for business for a while.

Maybe.

The Sabres probably want too much in return for a guy who is making $7.1M that just hasn't been a very good player at the NHL level.

Honestly even if you're paying just the NJD 1st that might be an overpayment with the contract that he's on and his current performance, and the Sabres probably are asking for more than that is my guess.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I watched the Sabres last night and have to admit that Cozens was noticeably bad (despite being the only scorer).

Would need some serious scouting if the Flames were going to try for him.
Would much rather try to get Helanius.

Helenius is absolutely not going anywhere. Buffalo was after him before they knew where they were drafting, and probably would have taken him at 6 if they were there.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Probably safe to say that if Cozens was the guy they wanted, Flames would already have him. Buffalo has been open for business for a while.

Buffalo was and maybe is still asking for the moon for Cozens, like 1st++ at this point.
Craig has interest, but he's not going to mortgage the future for Cozens at this point.

[SuperMatt18]

Buffalo is in such a weird spot right now.

I don't blame them for not wanting to sell low on their "Core" (Thompson, Tuch, Dahlin, Cozens, Peterka, Power, Mcleod), because they probably shouldn't be moving those guys.

But then at the same time they are hesitant to move any prospects or picks to try to help these guys win now.

I can get not wanting to move Helenius, or Benson because those guys have potential to be legitimate stars.

But to me they are way to hesitant to move on from pieces like Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund, Quinn, or Krebs. Or any of their future picks (the 2025 pick would have top 10 protection for sure).

Even if you're selling a bit low on a piece like that, if it's part of a package that brings in a piece that actually helps those core pieces become more effective players then it's a deal they should probably be making at this point to try to build a bit of a winning culture.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Helenius is absolutely not going anywhere. Buffalo was after him before they knew where they were drafting, and probably would have taken him at 6 if they were there.



Buffalo was and maybe is still asking for the moon for Cozens, like 1st++ at this point.
Craig has interest, but he's not going to mortgage the future for Cozens at this point.

Any other names you're hearing we may be interested in?