[PGT] Bruins beat Flames 4-3 in OT

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Watched the first two periods and then fell asleep before the start of the third. Feels like I was an honorary Flame with that pattern.

I watched Sharangovich a lot tonight, mostly because I'm trying to figure out why he's not doing much. Wow, is he ever passive. Not sure why, but he has no drive to make a play. He gets a puck and does two things: Immediately stops skating, pulls up instead of driving to the net, and then passes to somebody else, sometimes just ringing it around the boards. I don't think he made even one shot attempt in that game. He's just a ghost out there.

If Kuzmenko wasn't banged up, I'd be benching Sharky until he gets more assertive.

I'm positive, as weird as it sounds, that he's still hurt. Probably should sit a while. He's likely in "if this were a playoff game he could go" shape which isn't great for December 17th.

[Jaybo]

The Flames feel destined to be completely mid-level no matter what they do.

[DropIt]

Sharongovich is a complete drain every night

[troutman]

Originally Posted by heep223

Kadri is what he is. On the one hand, a turnover machine who plays selfishly. On the other hand, hard nosed with skill and one of our only guys who can score. You take both sides at this point, if it hasn’t been coached out of him yet, he’s not changin, and it’s not going to be a coach like Huska who can do it anyways. May as well accept

Twice in OT when we had possession he tried to beat multiple Bruins on his own. Frustrating.

[flambers]

Not sure I can recall a game, where the Flames lost all of the faceoffs in a period.

Which did occur in the 1st,

Go figure

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by flambers

Not sure I can recall a game, where the Flames lost all of the faceoffs in a period.

Which did occur in the 1st,

Go figure

I did enjoy the intermission segment where they showed Conroy come down to the bench while they were practicing face-offs and he was screaming "they aren't cheating enough!"

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Sharongovich is a complete drain every night

He has been a ghost. I never hear his name during games.

I realize he missed training camp but in my mind he and Kuzmenko have been the biggest disappointments this season.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Goriders

He has been a ghost. I never hear his name during games.

I realize he missed training camp but in my mind he and Kuzmenko have been the biggest disappointments this season.

Riding a career low shooting percentage and starting significantly more shifts in the defensive zone than he ever has.

PDO luck rollercoaster and a bad early season knee injury can be a real bitch.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Russic and Rose were saying Sharangovich hasn't registered a hit in the last 10 games. I haven't double checked that but, ooof, that's a bad stat.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think last night was just an example of a well-coached, well-structured team that plays with a lot of effort, but needs more talent, hence why the rebuild. Nothing wrong with it. This is an easy team to cheer for right now. They out-competed Boston, and I would argue out-played them until the final minutes of the 3rd period in which Boston dominated. Boston was lucky to win this one based on a goal they scored, but those are the bounces. Flames should have walked away with 2 points instead of 1, but Boston was by far the superior team in OT.



It is frustrating watching Flames players try to do things by themselves. Kadri is the obvious scapegoat here (especially in OT), but he was hardly alone. Lots of players are trying to do too much on their own. I love Zary, and I think he is only going to improve, but he is trying to dangle way too much through too many players too often. I don't want Huska to stifle that creativity, but I do think that Zary needs to pick his spots a bit better.


Sharangovich is not working anywhere now. Hopefully it is just a minor injury that is holding him back, or just struggling with the fitness for being away so long, but he hasn't looked good outside of a game or two since he returned. There isn't a line he has built any chemistry with. Maybe Ruff wasn't wrong with reducing his minutes and opportunity? I guess we will have to see. He has undeniable talent, but something isn't right with him this year. Considering he was hurt to start the year, I hope that this is the explanation and that at some point when he fully heals (if he is not already) or finally 'catches up' with fitness or timing (or whatever), that he returns to form. He is starting to stand out to me, as apparently he is doing to many other posters too.

Andersson has dried up offensively, but I am not so worried. He will find a groove again, and hopefully soon, if for nothing else than to simply increase his worth in a trade (if that happens). I don't mind Kadri scoring and being a little 'light' on defence. It would be great if he could do both, but he is getting older. He needs to put the puck in the net in order to have value on the trade market, so although it is frustrating watching him and his tunnel vision at times, nobody is going to trade for him if he isn't scoring.



At least the Flames got a point out of this. They deserved more obviously as I thought they were the better team for most of the night, but being the better team isn't the issue here. It is a lack of enough talent to put those games away that is the problem. Other teams can coast for a while, and at some point in the game, can decide to turn it on and manage to get a win. You can't out-compete every team in every game, and at some point, it is a combination of both talent and effort.



The great thing is that they are fun to watch, even if the results can sometimes be frustrating.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think last night was just an example of a well-coached, well-structured team that plays with a lot of effort, but needs more talent, hence why the rebuild. Nothing wrong with it. This is an easy team to cheer for right now. They out-competed Boston, and I would argue out-played them until the final minutes of the 3rd period in which Boston dominated. Boston was lucky to win this one based on a goal they scored, but those are the bounces. Flames should have walked away with 2 points instead of 1, but Boston was by far the superior team in OT.

Yes, exactly this. Huska has done a great job keeping this cast motivated and working hard despite the losses. Despite the very obvious lack of talent through the lineup, the Flames are almost always the hardest working team, executing on the structure they've been taught and as a result, find themselves in most games, but sometimes, losing due to that talent gap. Give this team 2 or 3 more true high end skill guys and this team is winning many of the games they've lost this year.

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

At least we aren't sabres fans. Yeesh.

They are just trying to beat their 2020-2021 record of 18 losses in a row...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jaybo

The Flames feel destined to be completely mid-level no matter what they do.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Explain the Oilers.

And just to clarify I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong. There does feel to be some weird stuff going on especially the past few years. But its not just in favor of the US teams. The Oilers get a #### ton of calls and good fortune thrown their way.

I've often said that if the NHL shows teams a video of their officiating at the end of the year to prove they call things by the book, its probably filled with a bunch of videos of the Flames taking penalties.

Remember, if the NHL pisses off a big market team, fans across the country or North America are angry. If the NHL pisses off the Flames they piss off Calgary.

Reading this conversation, I though we might be disgruntled fans, but looking at the teams PIM/G differential this year. The Flames aren't exactly getting the best shake in the league.

Typically you would expect to see slow teams with worse differentials and fast teams with better, because one of the best ways to draw penalties in this sport is to get the jump on a guy in a foot race.

32 Montreal Canadiens -1.7
31 Buffalo Sabres -1.7
30 Chicago Blackhawks -0.9
29 Columbus Blue Jackets -0.9
28 Toronto Maple Leafs -0.7
27 Philadelphia Flyers -0.7
26 Utah Hockey Club -0.6
25 Los Angeles Kings -0.6
24 Calgary Flames -0.6
23 St. Louis Blues -0.6
22 Washington Capitals -0.5
21 New York Rangers -0.4
20 Vancouver Canucks -0.2
19 New Jersey Devils -0.2
18 Anaheim Ducks -0.2
17 Boston Bruins 0
16 Nashville Predators 0
15 San Jose Sharks 0
League Average 0
14 Carolina Hurricanes 0.1
13 Detroit Red Wings 0.2
12 Minnesota Wild 0.3
11 Pittsburgh Penguins 0.3
10 Dallas Stars 0.4
9 Colorado Avalanche 0.5
8 Vegas Golden Knights 0.5
7 Edmonton Oilers 0.6
6 Tampa Bay Lightning 0.8
5 Florida Panthers 0.9
4 New York Islanders 1.3
3 Winnipeg Jets 1.4
2 Ottawa Senators 1.6
1 Seattle Kraken 1.7

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

Russic and Rose were saying Sharangovich hasn't registered a hit in the last 10 games. I haven't double checked that but, ooof, that's a bad stat.

He's playing passive, and without confidence.

Not sure exactly what his injury woes have been but hes playing like a guy afraid to get hurt again.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think last night was just an example of a well-coached, well-structured team that plays with a lot of effort, but needs more talent, hence why the rebuild. Nothing wrong with it. This is an easy team to cheer for right now. They out-competed Boston, and I would argue out-played them until the final minutes of the 3rd period in which Boston dominated. Boston was lucky to win this one based on a goal they scored, but those are the bounces. Flames should have walked away with 2 points instead of 1, but Boston was by far the superior team in OT.

Bingo's game stats said Boston should have gotten 58% of the goals. based on that, the Flames relied upon Wolf to steal a point.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Riding a career low shooting percentage and starting significantly more shifts in the defensive zone than he ever has.

PDO luck rollercoaster and a bad early season knee injury can be a real bitch.

While I mostly agree with your point, you might be a little generous.

His shooting percentage is exactly what it was during 2022/23 (but lower than career average to be sure. And he still has 55% O zone starts.

His shooting percentage last year was unsustainable, higher than Ovechkin.

The guy just might not be a 30 goal scorer.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jaybo

The Flames feel destined to be completely mid-level no matter what they do.

I don't think you could draw up a bigger gouging of talent than what they traded away last year.

If anything should've sewered them, it was that parade of trades. That was an arm and a leg. Roster was amputated.

The fact that it hasn't put them in lottery territory is funny and only slightly tragic.

Still not cheering for losses, but I have a good hunch on where they'll finish when all is said and done, and neither the winning nor losing crowds will be celebrating.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I don't think you could draw up a bigger gouging of talent than what they traded away last year.

If anything should've sewered them, it was that parade of trades. That was an arm and a leg. Roster was amputated.

The fact that it hasn't put them in lottery territory is funny and only slightly tragic.

Still not cheering for losses, but I have a good hunch on where they'll finish when all is said and done, and neither the winning nor losing crowds will be celebrating.

Not to mention some of the new players that did well last year are sucking this year.

[combustiblefuel]

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