I heard an argument for Carney joining as Finance Minister, to avoid the perception that he just parachutes into the leadership race and avoids the hard problems. The only way I do that if I’m him is if I get full autonomy, including sacrificing some pet initiatives in the name of fiscal responsibility. Doubt that happens
Confidence vote in March might bring down the Liberals. Singh apparently gets some pension benefits (?) at that time.
The bluff that Trudeau must step down or else is kinda foolish. He has no power to what the Liberal party does, only has power to force an election earlier.
NDP must distance themselves from the Liberals to make gains in the polls. IMO.
I don't know how much life this Liberal government has or why the NDP/Block would keep them alive much longer. I sense it's logical for the country to have a say in new leadership.
Like several things you’ve ignored in favour of making whatever canned point you wanted to make in the first place, this has already been explained to you.
At the end of the day you can talk about CEOs and hockey teams all you want. But we’re talking politics, and there are certain realities one should understand if they want to have those conversations.
Saying stuff like the Liberals aren’t well funded, or that it’s “selfish” for the elected party to rule until the next election, or that the Bloc wants to be the official opposition, is absurd. Yes, I get all the conservative fantasies these moments of turmoil inspire, but these fantasies don’t mean anything. You have to understand how long a year is in politics and public sentiment.
The country will have a say in new leadership… at the election. Last time they elected the Liberals, who are the leaders now. They want a majority, a minority, or at least opposition against a Conservative minority. Right now, they’re looking at opposition against a Conservative majority. So, how do they achieve something more preferential? Their best path forward is booting Trudeau and shaking up the party with a new leader and shuffling the cabinet. Say someone like Carney, sure. What does that do? It guarantees nothing, but probably puts option three back on the table if not option two (would require a huge change, but possible).
What does the NDP get out of letting this play out? Well for them, like the Bloc, official opposition is off the table. So their choices are letting the government fall and giving up all influence for 4+ years, or propping up the government, continuing influence for a year, and hoping that continues beyond that.
You play strategist. Forget the fantasies. What do you do?
Keep in mind, the Cons could make this happen by cutting a deal with the NDP. So if you’re looking at being angry over this government continuing, understand that there are more than two parties responsible for it happening.
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CP wants to eliminate a bunch of full time positions that include pensions and benefits and replace them with extra part time positions that do not require those expenses.
Money was a small part of it and was pretty much addressed about 2 days after the strike was called. though the union ask is still a bit more.
There are other things, many actually, some bigger but most minor, that would require understanding how everything works internally to make sense.
Ah, the Walmart strategy - to kill the ability to make ends meet and having a career by working for said company so employees have to have multiple jobs.
I'm not a fan of Freeland's, but at least she left like kinda a boss.
This is really not surprising from Justin. Despite proclaiming himself as a major feminist and all about equality he has shown that he will always throw a woman under the bus to save face. They are just pawns in his game of politics.
I heard an argument for Carney joining as Finance Minister, to avoid the perception that he just parachutes into the leadership race and avoids the hard problems. The only way I do that if I’m him is if I get full autonomy, including sacrificing some pet initiatives in the name of fiscal responsibility. Doubt that happens
I view "parachuting" Carney into a cabinet position as Finance Minister as an unelected individual as worse than jumping into the leadership race. At least with a leadership race he still has to jump through some hoops like nomination, signatures, entry fees and he has to go through a leadership contests.
This is really not surprising from Justin. Despite proclaiming himself as a major feminist and all about equality he has shown that he will always throw a woman under the bus to save face. They are just pawns in his game of politics.
Would it have been more feminist or less feminist to just drop her completely?
Who would have provided said support? The NDP that would have been crushed? His arch rivals in the Liberals? The Block?
Only the Conservatives were/are interested in an early election
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Well I can see why the Liberals would want to hold on for dear life. I can see why the Conservatives want an election soon.
Why would the NDP or Block want to delay this nearly a year? To give the Liberals a chance to get stronger or figure things out and become a strong official opposition?
If you were an NDP or Block strategist, your telling me you wouldn't be chomping to at the bit to become the official opposition?
Perhaps I am a political newbie but I fail to see how we are not headed for an early election very soon. The government, top cabinet ministers and the party seem to be in turmoil, the NDP has been playing 3rd fiddle forever and the Block would love a chance to extract as much leverage as possible for their causes from Pierre, who need's strong support from Quebec in order to form a long lasting majority.
The Liberals either try to cling to power in a selfish way or rip off the band-aid now, get a new leader and let the Conservatives deal with the craziness south of the border for the time being while rebuilding quickly.
Polls close in the Cloverdale by election which was called due to the resignation of Lib MP John Aldag
The Liberals got spanked in that election where the conservatives received around 2/3 of the vote. This riding was a close, back and forth riding for the last few elections but not this time.
Confidence vote in March might bring down the Liberals. Singh apparently gets some pension benefits (?) at that time.
The bluff that Trudeau must step down or else is kinda foolish. He has no power to what the Liberal party does, only has power to force an election earlier.
NDP must distance themselves from the Liberals to make gains in the polls. IMO.
Singh’s pension kicks in Feb 25th. My guess is he pushes for non confidence on the 26th. Unless Trudeau sewers him out of spite before the 25th.
Canada deserves better leadership. The current crop is an embarrassment.
This is really not surprising from Justin. Despite proclaiming himself as a major feminist and all about equality he has shown that he will always throw a woman under the bus to save face. They are just pawns in his game of politics.
He’s pretty much out of people to throw under the bus. I think he will be next.
