2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Monahammer]

Coronato + Kerins/Solovyov is still where I am feeling best. The gap between Coronato and McTavish probably isn't a first, but probably is close.

[Badgers Nose]

If the Ducks move him will be fascinating what they get.

My money is on a modest package where everyone here says, ‘we could have matched or beat that!’

Ducks won’t do the Flames any favours.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by BrownDrake

Let’s all remember that a late first, which only a contending team would do for a Kadri could very well be a klimchuk, Emile Poirier, for the most part picks in the 24-32 range have a higher percentage of being nothing burgers than quality long term NHL’ers.

Exactly.

If a team out there believes Kadri, or any vet, can move the needle and the cost is a late first, mid 20’s-32, you’re likely making that bet.

If the Colorado Avalanche, for example, think Kadri can come back and help them win a cup while MacKinnon, Makar, Rantenin are firing on all cylinders, you probably don’t worry too much about what the 26 overall pick, or whatever, might turn out to be. That’s not going to give the Avalanche much to worry about.

These sorts of blanket trade hypotheticals that a player is worth the same for every team in the league doesn’t pass muster in my mind. Certain teams will pay more for certain players.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Everyone would except the Ducks

Look who stopped in to #### on every thread - the Flames must have had a bad night last night.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

If the Ducks move him will be fascinating what they get.

My money is on a modest package where everyone here says, ‘we could have matched or beat that!’

Ducks won’t do the Flames any favours.

McTavish is one of the best young centres in the NHL. He's the type of young soon-to-be first line centres that you build a team around. If he's traded, they're going to get a solid package coming back.

I have no idea what the Ducks would be looking for or whether they actually are shopping McTavish -- or if teams are just kicking tires to see if they can get a deal on him in an off year -- but if the ask is for Coronato plus a NJ/Florida first and a second pick, I'd do that deal and I'm a big fan of Coronato.

[Sofa GM]

I am personally against including Coronato in any trade, I believe he should be an untouchable prospect/player right now. I rank him above Zary in our organization. I believe many people highly overvalue Zary. I like Zary as a player, but he is a middle 6 type player. Coronato has the ability to develop into a top line winger with his shot release.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I am personally against including Coronato in any trade, I believe he should be an untouchable prospect/player right now. I rank him above Zary in our organization. I believe many people highly overvalue Zary. I like Zary as a player, but he is a middle 6 type player. Coronato has the ability to develop into a top line winger with his shot release.

Typically, I'm with you about Coronato, as people on this board regularly throw him into mediocre trade proposals.

But for a guy like McTavish, that's what it would take, and in this case, it would be worth it. McTavish has that tenacious attitude in a number 1 centre package that you build a team around.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I am personally against including Coronato in any trade, I believe he should be an untouchable prospect/player right now. I rank him above Zary in our organization. I believe many people highly overvalue Zary. I like Zary as a player, but he is a middle 6 type player. Coronato has the ability to develop into a top line winger with his shot release.

McTavish has #1 center upside and has had decent success in NHL so far and Coronato couldn't even stick last year. I don't think he returns a guy like McTavish but I'd be all over it

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Bonded

McTavish has #1 center upside and has had decent success in NHL so far and Coronato couldn't even stick last year. I don't think he returns a guy like McTavish but I'd be all over it

My argument was more around not sure the Flames have the right pieces. I myself would include Zary over Coronato in a package for McTavish, as that would perhaps be more attractive to the Ducks since they receive a player in return who can play the center position.

[kyuss275]

There isn’t a winger on flames team or in the system that I wouldn’t throw in package for McTavish or another young center. Wingers are low on the totem poll on value IMO.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by BrownDrake

Let’s all remember that a late first, which only a contending team would do for a Kadri could very well be a klimchuk, Emile Poirier, for the most part picks in the 24-32 range have a higher percentage of being nothing burgers than quality long term NHL’ers.

Yes but it could also turn into a Shea Theodore, Andre Burakovsky, or Ryan Hartman all of whom were picked in the same stage of the draft aas Poirier and Klimchuk.

More than that a 1st round pick is an asset that could to used to help bring in that mythical Centreman who is under 23. Folks keep saying Conroy is looking for.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I am personally against including Coronato in any trade, I believe he should be an untouchable prospect/player right now. I rank him above Zary in our organization. I believe many people highly overvalue Zary. I like Zary as a player, but he is a middle 6 type player. Coronato has the ability to develop into a top line winger with his shot release.

Ooof. Don’t know about that. To me, this smacks of a fan perspective overvaluing their own prospects. Coronato is a nice prospect but to my recollection he’s never been considered, league side, to be a top flight prospect.

Reading several league wide prospect rankings over the years it seems to me he’s no where near a top tier prospect. Looking one up from Corey Pronman, he’s got Coronato at 129th on his list. That’s below Parekh (32), Zary (78), Honzek (96), and Gridin (124).

I’m not suggesting the Flames shouldn’t value Coronato, he could be a nice 2RW, but he’s far from an immovable piece if he’s part of a package that gets you a similarly aged centre with top 2 upside.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Ooof. Don’t know about that. To me, this smacks of a fan perspective overvaluing their own prospects. Coronato is a nice prospect but to my recollection he’s never been considered, league side, to be a top flight prospect.

Reading several league wide prospect rankings over the years it seems to me he’s no where near a top tier prospect. Looking one up from Corey Pronman, he’s got Coronato at 129th on his list. That’s below Parekh (32), Zary (78), Honzek (96), and Gridin (124).

I’m not suggesting the Flames shouldn’t value Coronato, he could be a nice 2RW, but he’s far from an immovable piece if he’s part of a package that gets you a similarly aged centre with top 2 upside.

Guys like Honzek, Gridin, even Basha to an extent, are the reason Coronato is potentially expendable for a core piece up the middle. High skill wingers are much more frequently available than top 6 centers

[bdubbs]

Stromgren has potential to pop too, if he can keep consistently putting up points. Big, long reach, good speed and hands.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by dino7c

What? no...Flames could trade Kadri and easily get a first with retention for multiple years.

Florida won't trade Bennett though even if he is just their "rental" this year. You only get so many kicks at the can

I really doubt Kadri could return a first, much less "easily".

[dammage79]

Don't think Coronato would on the table in any way for Conroy. Even for a center.

I believe they want to add to their developing core, not shuffle it around. So the likes of Brz, Parekh, Coronato, Honzo, Zary aren't trade chips.

Draft capital on the other hand, can be. I don't think they'd need to add one of their top or 6 prospects to make a deal happen. More in line with a Pelletier or a Poirier and perhaps a Stromgren. NJD pick and Poirier should get a deal done

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

. NJD pick and Poirier should get a deal done

If that got a deal done then McTavish would be on the Flames. No way he returns that little. Cozens for McTavish would be an interesting swap.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

My argument was more around not sure the Flames have the right pieces. I myself would include Zary over Coronato in a package for McTavish, as that would perhaps be more attractive to the Ducks since they receive a player in return who can play the center position.

I’d keep Zary over Coronato.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I really doubt Kadri could return a first, much less "easily".

With salary retention? Easily. He is a Stanley Cup champion who is money in the playoffs and is capable of 70 point seasons. A lot of this fan base is really weird, most fan bases overestimate their assets but a lot of Flame fans think as soon as a player puts on the flaming C their value is crap.

[Badgers Nose]

Coronato seems like a better Mangiapane.

Thats’s awesome. Not sure he gets you a potential #1 centre, though. Even one in the doghouse. Coronado is worth the position we drafted him at if they value a winger.

So the add would be a lot.

Realistically, I don’t see any way this works except for a hodge podge of draft capital. Is McTavish worth a mid first in a weak draft? Probably a lot more.