Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Azure

In the grand scheme of things, cheques cost nothing for a business that is setup to pay via cheque, and has been doing it that way, without interruption, for decades.

But hey, rich coming from someone so clueless about how the real world works that you were completely ignorant to the fact that there are actually a lot of businesses out there that do not pay their bills or their people electronically, and even more ignorant to the struggle of trying to get everything switched over quickly is actually kind of a big issue.

Its '2024 remember.'

Lets be honest. Tyler Durden's plan to blow up all of the Credit Card companies?

Probably not such a bad plan in retrospect.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Azure

In the grand scheme of things, cheques cost nothing for a business that is setup to pay via cheque, and has been doing it that way, without interruption, for decades.

But hey, rich coming from someone so clueless about how the real world works that you were completely ignorant to the fact that there are actually a lot of businesses out there that do not pay their bills or their people electronically, and even more ignorant to the struggle of trying to get everything switched over quickly is actually kind of a big issue.

Its '2024 remember.'

At least you are consistent in having your blinders on and putting words in peoples mouths. No where did I say that a lot of companies don't use cheques. No where did I say that people don't things manually instead of electronically.

I had simply said that right now "2024", there are so many other options that there is no reason why anyone shouldn't be getting a paycheck. That's it. Not, "derp why don't all companies do things electronically" like you seem to want to keep making it out.

I agree, lots of companies still use cheques, yes there are barriers to completely changing your payment system. Yes this is an extraordinary circumstance. No, I don't expect businesses to permanently change to electronic payments.

But right now, Dec 11, 2024 with a 4 week Canada Post strike ongoing... the excuse that employees are not getting paid because the cheques are stuck in the mail is a ludicrous statement.

Are bills getting missed, are vendor payments delayed, sure.. but when it comes to your employees, there is no reason this should be an issue with all of the options available to an employer who actually gives a damn.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by belsarius

At least you are consistent in having your blinders on and putting words in peoples mouths. No where did I say that a lot of companies don't use cheques. No where did I say that people don't things manually instead of electronically.

I had simply said that right now "2024", there are so many other options that there is no reason why anyone shouldn't be getting a paycheck. That's it. Not, "derp why don't all companies do things electronically" like you seem to want to keep making it out.

I agree, lots of companies still use cheques, yes there are barriers to completely changing your payment system. Yes this is an extraordinary circumstance. No, I don't expect businesses to permanently change to electronic payments.

But right now, Dec 11, 2024 with a 4 week Canada Post strike ongoing... the excuse that employees are not getting paid because the cheques are stuck in the mail is a ludicrous statement.

Are bills getting missed, are vendor payments delayed, sure.. but when it comes to your employees, there is no reason this should be an issue with all of the options available to an employer who actually gives a damn.

I, honestly, was astonished when I first got into paying business expenses at how many businesses used cheques.

Cheques used to suuuuuuuck....you had to go to an actual bank (which are wretched hives of scum and villainy) to deposit them, they were a nightmare. I've got so many crappy cheque stories it'd make your head spin.

But now? I love cheques. I also spell it correctly which should be noted.

However, when an institution, like the Government, gives you direct deposit at no cost or charge? Take it.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Locke

I, honestly, was astonished when I first got into paying business expenses at how many businesses used cheques.

Cheques used to suuuuuuuck....you had to go to an actual bank (which are wretched hives of scum and villainy) to deposit them, they were a nightmare. I've got so many crappy cheque stories it'd make your head spin.

But now? I love cheques. I also spell it correctly which should be noted.

However, when an institution, like the Government, gives you direct deposit at no cost or charge? Take it.

Being able to get our own desktop cheque scanner comes in real handy for taking those payments too. It is exactly the same one they use in the bank making depositing so much easier.

But I have to say, my wrist has not missed signing stacks of cheques to go out.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Being able to get our own desktop cheque scanner comes in real handy for taking those payments too. It is exactly the same one they use in the bank making depositing so much easier.

But I have to say, my wrist has not missed signing stacks of cheques to go out.

I will tell you one of the most insane 'cheque stories' you have ever heard and...theres a 'wrist joke' to be made there but I'm leaving it.

For now...

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Azure

Drink!

[chemgear]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...s-gst-holiday/

https://archive.fo/gHYwc

Relations between the Prime Minister’s Office and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland have chilled as tensions grow over the push for politically strategic spending measures such as the GST holiday, multiple sources say, risking the minister missing her pledge to keep the deficit at or below $40.1-billion.

The sources say the idea for a sales-tax break on items such as toys, video games, Christmas trees and alcohol was driven by the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO), as was the pledge to send $250 benefit cheques to working Canadians who earned an income of up to $150,000 last year.

The Finance Department viewed the $6.28-billion plan as fiscally unwise, with one source saying Finance officials described the GST holiday as making little economic sense.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by chemgear

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...s-gst-holiday/

https://archive.fo/gHYwc

Relations between the Prime Minister’s Office and Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland have chilled as tensions grow over the push for politically strategic spending measures such as the GST holiday, multiple sources say, risking the minister missing her pledge to keep the deficit at or below $40.1-billion.

The sources say the idea for a sales-tax break on items such as toys, video games, Christmas trees and alcohol was driven by the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO), as was the pledge to send $250 benefit cheques to working Canadians who earned an income of up to $150,000 last year.

The Finance Department viewed the $6.28-billion plan as fiscally unwise, with one source saying Finance officials described the GST holiday as making little economic sense.

…. Who isn’t smart enough to know that they aren’t going to buy votes (JT).

And who is trying to save her political skin?

Well alt least one of them ‘seems’ concerned about the fiscal future of this country

[Azure]

Is that the new 'poor' demographic? Making below $150k? What a joke.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Azure

Is that the new 'poor' demographic? Making below $150k? What a joke.

Well...you're not wrong but it does kind of go to say how much Canada has changed.

Housing is expensive, taxes on everything, energy is expensive, fuel is expensive this is rapidly becoming a very, very pricy place to live.

$150K is in no way 'poor' but I think its accurate enough to say it doesnt go as far as it used to.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Well...you're not wrong but it does kind of go to say how much Canada has changed.

Housing is expensive, taxes on everything, energy is expensive, fuel is expensive this is rapidly becoming a very, very pricy place to live.

$150K is in no way 'poor' but I think its accurate enough to say it doesnt go as far as it used to.

Kinda similar to how $29/hour doesn’t go as far as it used to?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Azure

Is that the new 'poor' demographic? Making below $150k? What a joke.

Judging by recent hypotheticals, certainly not a lap of luxury

[Slava]

That $150k has nothing to do with poverty and everything to do with trying to buy as many votes as possible without being accused of giving money to rich people who don't need it. It's a delicate balance, I guess.

[transplant99]

Sounds like the CIRB will assess the negotiations and the labor minister will order postal workers back on Monday if nothing happens this weekend.

[transplant99]

From CUPW

Friday December 13 2024

OTTAWA– Today, the Union has learned that the Minister of Labour is using his powers under Section 107 of the Canada Labour Code to order striking postal workers back to work. The Union denounces in the strongest terms this assault on our constitutionally protected right to collectively bargain and to strike.

This order continues a deeply troubling pattern in which the government uses its arbitrary powers to let employers off the hook, drag their feet, and refuse to bargain in good faith with workers and their unions.



What we Know

This is a rapidly developing situation, and we have not had time to review all of the details. What we do know is that postal workers are being forced to return to work without new negotiated collective agreements in place.

The Union is currently reviewing the order and considering its options moving forward.

[Johnny199r]

The Canada Post strike failed spectacularly for the workers.

1 month with no pay, a generally annoyed public, probably lost clients for the employer and ordered back to work.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

The Canada Post strike failed spectacularly for the workers.

1 month with no pay, a generally annoyed public, probably lost clients for the employer and ordered back to work.

Sounds like a pretty big failure for the employer.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Johnny199r

The Canada Post strike failed spectacularly for the workers.

1 month with no pay, a generally annoyed public, probably lost clients for the employer and ordered back to work.

Nevermind the complete loss of the holiday market. By the time they finally actually get back to some level of work, they'll only just start to clear the backlog and by the time they're done it'll be sometime in 2025.

No one is going to use them for the holiday season.

But it's not like they've been losing money for years. Need structural changes in their numbers.

[iggy_oi]

What does Pierre think of all this?

[GGG]

Canada lost being an essential service for 95% of what they do is garbage. There is no basis to legislate them back to work when they were still performing the essential part of their work.

They should hire scabs if they want to go that route.