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Old 12-12-2024, 06:09 PM   #1321
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Yeah and the people looked totally unrealistic. Though I’m pretty sure at one point an old lady walked directly into the front of someone so that kind of checks out.
Someone needs to do a welfare check on the wheelchair guy at 1:43.
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Only if they can borrow your helicopter... and leave them up there.
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Looking forward to a fly though of the interior at some point
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The exterior design is mediocre at best. Nothing awe inspiring or unique about it. It feels rather clunky and cluttered with way too much going on. Honestly, #### all these metaphors that architects come up with. “The top represents a cauldron sitting on top of a glacier”. Good lord, just design a timeless, classy arena with quality materials.

The only impressive thing about the exterior is it has the most activated streetscape and pedestrian realm of any arena that I’ve seen. I can’t think of another arena with as many retail outlets fronting onto the street. A team store, three restaurants, and a food hall. No other NHL arena comes close. Rogers Place in Edmonton is the worst. Not a single ground level opening along the actual arena, as everyone is forced into that overhead bridge which connects to the plaza on the other side of the street! Their arena is very imposing and monolithic. Very hostile and not pedestrian friendly.
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I will for sure miss the unique name, appearance, and character of the Saddledome. And the prices.

The 3D renderings look quite nice, though unremarkable.
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The exterior design is mediocre at best. Nothing awe inspiring or unique about it. It feels rather clunky and cluttered with way too much going on. Honestly, #### all these metaphors that architects come up with. “The top represents a cauldron sitting on top of a glacier”. Good lord, just design a timeless, classy arena with quality materials.

The only impressive thing about the exterior is it has the most activated streetscape and pedestrian realm of any arena that I’ve seen. I can’t think of another arena with as many retail outlets fronting onto the street. A team store, three restaurants, and a food hall. No other NHL arena comes close. Rogers Place in Edmonton is the worst. Not a single ground level opening along the actual arena, as everyone is forced into that overhead bridge which connects to the plaza on the other side of the street! Their arena is very imposing and monolithic. Very hostile and not pedestrian friendly.
To be honest, I care more about the streetscape than the actual design of the building. The building itself is... fine. Nothing too crazy, but I find it to be pretty clean, modern, and classy.

We were never going to get the Guggenheim, and I think that's fine. But we'll get a functional building in a nice, vibrant district instead of a bunch of blank walls with a few entrance doors.
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Finish fall 2027 does that mean in time for the 27/28 season?
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Finish fall 2027 does that mean in time for the 27/28 season?

Yes.
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The exterior design is mediocre at best. Nothing awe inspiring or unique about it. It feels rather clunky and cluttered with way too much going on. Honestly, #### all these metaphors that architects come up with. “The top represents a cauldron sitting on top of a glacier”. Good lord, just design a timeless, classy arena with quality materials.

The only impressive thing about the exterior is it has the most activated streetscape and pedestrian realm of any arena that I’ve seen. I can’t think of another arena with as many retail outlets fronting onto the street. A team store, three restaurants, and a food hall. No other NHL arena comes close. Rogers Place in Edmonton is the worst. Not a single ground level opening along the actual arena, as everyone is forced into that overhead bridge which connects to the plaza on the other side of the street! Their arena is very imposing and monolithic. Very hostile and not pedestrian friendly.
Let’s not forget what we almost ended up with originally.

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What was the one before this current one, again? The one that got killed because Murray Edwards wanted out of the deal due to construction and material costs during Covid and used a lame out and then all the dummy conservatives in our city blamed the mayor?

That one was decent looking. I liked it because hockey arenas should go one of two ways; Either make it low key and blend in with everything else in the community (that design kind of did that) or swing for the fences and make a statement (hopefully an awesome statement not an Edmonton statement).
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Maybe I have unsophisticated expectations, but I really like the way the exterior designs look.
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Maybe I have unsophisticated expectations, but I really like the way the exterior designs look.
I mean just follow the video at the 8 - 14 second mark. That is an early 90's upscale shopping mall on bottom with an early 2000's "trendy" parkade on top. Then look at the small windows from a 90's office building at the 34 - 40 second mark. I honestly don't know what you guys are seeing in this, it's awful to me. Their lighting and Led screens are the main feature of the design, that's a bad, bad sign.


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I mean just follow the video at the 8 - 14 second mark. That is an early 90's upscale shopping mall on bottom with an early 2000's "trendy" parkade on top. Then look at the small windows from a 90's office building at the 34 - 40 second mark. I honestly don't know what you guys are seeing in this, it's awful to me. Their lighting and Led screens are the main feature of the design, that's a bad, bad sign.
I don’t think it’s anything incredible but it seems to slot into the upper end of the “safe” type of arena design, of which 90+% arena designs are. I’m not sure there’s much to complain about here.

Personally I would have liked it to really feel like a sister building to the BMO centre which the original was better at, but I think this is a more interesting design that the original in every fashion.
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its 2027, why would anyone still be wearing pants?
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Because I love you guys, I asked and was told we should be getting internal renderings - like, of the concourse and seating areas - in a few months. (e.g., probably near end of Q1 2025.)
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The only impressive thing about the exterior is it has the most activated streetscape and pedestrian realm of any arena that I’ve seen. I can’t think of another arena with as many retail outlets fronting onto the street. A team store, three restaurants, and a food hall.
This all I wanted all along. An arena that wasn't an absolute dead zone outside of scheduled event times. It's my hope that they run the 3 restaurants year round, and create a place where people want to hang out, even when it's not in event mode. I'm sure they'll close down the food hall, but if they can keep the restaurants open and have outdoor patio/space in the warmer months, then it'll help to bring activity to the area.
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CMLC is also planning on extending the Riverwalk down around this area, too. They can't schedule it out until the Green Line construction impacts are fully figured out, though.
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Maybe I have unsophisticated expectations, but I really like the way the exterior designs look.
I have incredibly sophisticated expectations and I like the way the exterior designs look
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The Flames uploaded the video from the presentation in 4K to their YouTube channel...




It looks great on my tv.
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