2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

This probably isn't enough but Verbeek likes his gritty and mean assets, so I think they would like some of these pieces but not enough value maybe.

Pospisil + Kuznetsov/Grushnikov (Verbeek likes his big physical dmen) + 1st Round Pick (NJD) + 2nd Round Pick (COL)

When you are rebuilding you are not trading 1st and 2nd round picks.

[Vinny01]

I could see both teams in Ontario going hard after Benny with Ottawa having the pieces to get a deal done if they offer Pinto++

They would LOVE to get Bennett in Toronto to be their 2C but I just don’t see what Florida would be willing to take from them in return?

Nashville has a lot of assets and I could see them all over Bennett as well. Dallas is another team who could likely make it work.

For the Ducks it feels like they want a comparable young player in return similar to their deal with Philly for Gauthier or the Jets-Pens McGroaty-Yager swap. Flames can offer a fairly strong rebuilding type package to the Ducks but likely not a 1 for 1 that would make sense for either team. Coronato maybe but I don’t see the Flames wanting to give up on him or move on?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

When you are rebuilding you are not trading 1st and 2nd round picks.

You should consider it when you are getting a 21 year old former 3rd overall pick who is a big center and already has 2 40 point seasons.

McTavish likely provides a lot more value than the 25-32 OV pick from NJ does, or a 2nd round pick in the 46-60 range.

I'd move the NJD 2025 First before I'd move any of Zary, Coronato, Honzek, or our 2024 picks.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Probably just normal business but I was at the wranglers game last night and there seemed to be a lot more scouts than usual sitting around with their notebooks.

Interesting....

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

You should consider it when you are getting a 21 year old former 3rd overall pick who is a big center and already has 2 40 point seasons.

McTavish likely provides a lot more value than the 25-32 OV pick from NJ does, or a 2nd round pick in the 46-60 range.

I'd move the NJD 2025 First before I'd move any of Zary, Coronato, Honzek, or our 2024 picks.

You added 2 prospects plus Pospisil in the deal.

You have to wonder why a 21 year old 3rd overall C would be on the market. That is a massive red flag.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I know we hope hes "generational" because we drafted him, but the league and scouts didn't see it that way 6 months ago at the draft

He was drafted 9th overall for a reason.

He could, but let's not pretend he was a 1st overall or 1st D selected.

McTavish was 3rd overall. He "could" be a generational center (technically)

I wouldn't trade straight up because I don't think losing 3 years of control of a player at this point of our rebuild makes any sense , but it's not an unfair trade

Teams also thought that Hischier, Patrick and Heiskenan were better than Makar. Generational was probably a stretch but at the same time Parekh has the tools to be a really special player.

Quinn Hughes went 7th overall and he is doing some pretty special things in Vancouver and a lot of media based scouts thought the flames got a steal with Parekh at 9th

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would not trade Parekh straight up for McTavish. You are trading a possibly generational D man for a player who is projected to be a 1B-2A C. No way.

I’m not saying I would do the trade, I’m saying that’s what it would probably take. There will be too many teams on mctavish and it’s going to drive the price up.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You added 2 prospects plus Pospisil in the deal.

You have to wonder why a 21 year old 3rd overall C would be on the market. That is a massive red flag.

Anaheim has been as poorly run a franchise as there is in the league so maybe that red flag isn’t as massive as you think?

[Toonage]

^ Was just about to post something similar. This was far more polite.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If Anaheim wants that then they won’t be trading him. Andersson can only block 6 crappy teams but I assume Buffalo is out for sure. Anaheim might not be

No team near the bottom is going to give up major assets for 1 year of Anderson . I’m sure they will know through back channels that the odds of an extension are slim to none. Anderson might be only able to block 6 teams but he has way more power than that to get to where he wants to go.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You added 2 prospects plus Pospisil in the deal.

You have to wonder why a 21 year old 3rd overall C would be on the market. That is a massive red flag.

Sometimes it's a red flag...sometimes NHL GMs just aren't that good at their job.

Personally I don't see much space for both Kuznetsov and Grushnikov on this roster long term - so pick the one you think is the best and move the other before both of them are waiver eligible next year anyways.

I love Pospisil but if he can be a piece to get you a young 21 year old center then he's not that hard to move.

If the first projected to be in the 10-15 range then sure it's probably too much, but I'd move a 22-32 overall pick for him which is where that pick projects.

I think ideally you could leave the 2nd round pick out of it, but it's going to take a slight overpayment to close the deal and I would overpay to bring in a premium center asset like McTavish.

Also people wouldn't hesitate to move Andersson in a deal for a young center like this...but you have to look at the net opportunity. No bottom feeding team that has top prospects is likely to be moving them for Andersson, and Andersson will want to go to a contender.

So you make a trade like this on one side, and move Andersson for a 1st + 2 2nds (the Chychrun/Hronek trades) in another deal, and in the end the net outcome of the assets is like you traded Andersson for McTavish.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would not trade Parekh straight up for McTavish. You are trading a possibly generational D man for a player who is projected to be a 1B-2A C. No way.

It wasn't my idea

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Probably just normal business but I was at the wranglers game last night and there seemed to be a lot more scouts than usual sitting around with their notebooks.

Wranglers are super exciting right now. Pretty young team and first in the AHL. Maybe they are finally getting some deserved attention. Second place Hershey Bears are the oldest team.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I know we hope hes "generational" because we drafted him, but the league and scouts didn't see it that way 6 months ago at the draft

He was drafted 9th overall for a reason.

He could, but let's not pretend he was a 1st overall or 1st D selected.

McTavish was 3rd overall. He "could" be a generational center (technically)

I wouldn't trade straight up because I don't think losing 3 years of control of a player at this point of our rebuild makes any sense , but it's not an unfair trade

I'm not the world's biggest Parekh fan, but if he reaches his potential, you have a Quinn Hughes with an enormous mean streak- and there's nothing wrong with that. That's a huge IF though IMO, as he's got a long, long way to go to reach that potential, and he's got plenty of changes to make.

Would I trade him for McTavish? Not sure, because I really like just having a CHANCE at a player who could be as good as Parekh's potential.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You added 2 prospects plus Pospisil in the deal.

You have to wonder why a 21 year old 3rd overall C would be on the market. That is a massive red flag.

Same red flags that Eichel had? Sometimes GMs are dumb and other GMs take advantage. Flames have one of the best examples of it with the Phaneuf trade

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I know we hope hes "generational" because we drafted him, but the league and scouts didn't see it that way 6 months ago at the draft

He was drafted 9th overall for a reason.

He could, but let's not pretend he was a 1st overall or 1st D selected.

McTavish was 3rd overall. He "could" be a generational center (technically)

I wouldn't trade straight up because I don't think losing 3 years of control of a player at this point of our rebuild makes any sense , but it's not an unfair trade

His stats in junior say his ceiling is generational. His floor will be a top pairing D man. There is nothing in McTavish's junior career to suggest his upside is generational. If both hit their ceilings it would be like trading prime Erik Karlsson for prime Ryan O Reilly. It would be one of the worst trades in team history. Zane Parekh should be untouchable.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

No team near the bottom is going to give up major assets for 1 year of Anderson . I’m sure they will know through back channels that the odds of an extension are slim to none. Anderson might be only able to block 6 teams but he has way more power than that to get to where he wants to go.

Just takes one GM but he should get a top 15 pick and couple seconds or something

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I could see both teams in Ontario going hard after Benny with Ottawa having the pieces to get a deal done if they offer Pinto++

They would LOVE to get Bennett in Toronto to be their 2C but I just don’t see what Florida would be willing to take from them in return?

Nashville has a lot of assets and I could see them all over Bennett as well. Dallas is another team who could likely make it work.

For the Ducks it feels like they want a comparable young player in return similar to their deal with Philly for Gauthier or the Jets-Pens McGroaty-Yager swap. Flames can offer a fairly strong rebuilding type package to the Ducks but likely not a 1 for 1 that would make sense for either team. Coronato maybe but I don’t see the Flames wanting to give up on him or move on?

Florida might covet Brady from Ottawa.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Sometimes it's a red flag...sometimes NHL GMs just aren't that good at their job.

Personally I don't see much space for both Kuznetsov and Grushnikov on this roster long term - so pick the one you think is the best and move the other before both of them are waiver eligible next year anyways.

I love Pospisil but if he can be a piece to get you a young 21 year old center then he's not that hard to move.

If the first projected to be in the 10-15 range then sure it's probably too much, but I'd move a 22-32 overall pick for him which is where that pick projects.

I think ideally you could leave the 2nd round pick out of it, but it's going to take a slight overpayment to close the deal and I would overpay to bring in a premium center asset like McTavish.

Also people wouldn't hesitate to move Andersson in a deal for a young center like this...but you have to look at the net opportunity. No bottom feeding team that has top prospects is likely to be moving them for Andersson, and Andersson will want to go to a contender.

So you make a trade like this on one side, and move Andersson for a 1st + 2 2nds (the Chychrun/Hronek trades) in another deal, and in the end the net outcome of the assets is like you traded Andersson for McTavish.

I am not against the idea. But he is also a 40 point player. I don't think it needs a +++.

Pospisil and a the NJD 1st would be ok. Add in a throw in like a Miramanov or something.

[Royle9]

I like the idea of McTavish on the Flames, but his injury history worries me a bit.
I am however against trading Coronato for him, and sounds like I might be in the minority there.

Parekh wouldn't even come across my lips in any trade.

I'm going to send out a note on this and see if Calgary is involved, I'd imagine they've inquired.