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Old 12-11-2024, 07:10 PM   #2881
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Old 12-11-2024, 07:20 PM   #2882
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You think if you or I are #### in New York our shooter is going to make national headlines?

The rule of law is very different for them as it is for us.
Depends on the circumstance. This was my friend's daughter's friend, and just a regular person. It got a fair amount of national coverage at the time.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/us/te...ing/index.html

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Old 12-11-2024, 07:26 PM   #2883
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Depends on the circumstance. This was my friend's daughter's friend, and just a regular person. It got a fair amount of national coverage at the time.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/19/us/te...ing/index.html
Yeah, that got major headlines. Not being of the victim but due to the young ages of the murderers
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Old 12-11-2024, 07:28 PM   #2884
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Who is talking about shooting anyone? Are you off your rocker? He said that if he or UCB got shot in NY, it wouldn’t make the news.
What do you mean who is talking about shooting anyone?
The last few hundreds posts are largely in support of shooting people who 'deserve it'. The only point of contention seems to be where the line is drawn - so who should be on which side of the needs killing line.
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Old 12-11-2024, 07:31 PM   #2885
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What do you mean who is talking about shooting anyone?
The last few hundreds posts are largely in support of shooting people who 'deserve it'. The only point of contention seems to be where the line is drawn - so who should be on which side of the needs killing line.

It’s a reply to the non-sequitur to BigThief’s post.
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Old 12-11-2024, 07:31 PM   #2886
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Yeah, that got major headlines. Not being of the victim but due to the young ages of the murderers
There was a fair amount of national coverage before they found out who did it, and then it got a lot more coverage.
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Old 12-11-2024, 07:53 PM   #2887
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Not for nothing, but NOBODY voted for Insurance companies to have carte blanche over their ability to Deny legitimate claims, the government's lack of intervention to them exploiting the system doesn't mean the populace has repeatedly chosen it, they may choose a system of private health care where they pay for the coverage they need, but nobody is casting a ballot in support of the abuses we so often see.
While true they don’t directly vote for it, look who they just elected as their president. They continually vote in people that will not solve this problem. I have sympathy for people that are getting screwed but as a society as a whole they reject public medicine as some sort of socialist scam. The affordable care act was a bridge too far for many of them. They, as a society get the system they deserve and right now it’s one where profit motivated insurance companies make many of the decisions about their care. Insurance companies are always looking for ways not to pay, and investors reward them for it.
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Old 12-11-2024, 08:02 PM   #2888
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Except that UH didn't, which is why on multiple occasions they've been found guilty, like this one:


https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/06/healt...ent/index.html

That's not working within the system. This is knowingly inflicting mass suffering on people already suffering immensely so they make more money to enrich themselves. Maybe if they don't want to find themselves getting shot, they could stop doing that? Since the legal system isn't able to keep them in line, an alternative route was taken.

I get vigilante killings are bad for society. But they are also a sign that things have gone seriously ####ed, and given the large numbers of people who are OK with this, perhaps it's just saying that "ya, it's come to this. Don't like it? Stop ####ing us." And if you don't want to be shot, don't take the job that has you ####ing people. I couldn't imagine the guilt I'd feel in that roll, but these people don't care, because they are psychopaths. They should be receiving counseling and care, not running corporations.

For all the people saying this is unacceptable, what is the alternative? How should justice be found for all those struggling, denied care, living their lives 100% wrapped in their healthcare needs taking all their time and resources, and not having any action available to them that will get them what they paid for in a timely manner(before they or loved one is dead)? Insurance companies know all this, and use it to their advantage. They know they can get away with it most of the time, always come out ahead and even the consequences are just a cost of doing business. So serious question, what should be done?
Serious question - where do you draw the line. I work in oil and gas, should climate activists be able to take me or my boss out? What about liquor manufactures? Families of alcoholics get a free pass to take a shot? Curious your thoughts on capital punishment. You better be all for the government getting to kill people if you are ok with citizens doing it too,

Nobody likes this answer, but would should be done? Change your damn society. But they will never, ever, ever have public health and forever and ever then profit motivated insurance companies will be making the decisions about what care should and shouldn’t be provided. I guess they could increase regulatory insight but I don’t see it. I have very little left in the tank for Americans and the plight they find themselves in.
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Old 12-11-2024, 08:49 PM   #2889
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Serious question - where do you draw the line. I work in oil and gas, should climate activists be able to take me or my boss out? What about liquor manufactures? Families of alcoholics get a free pass to take a shot? Curious your thoughts on capital punishment. You better be all for the government getting to kill people if you are ok with citizens doing it too,
I'm afraid if you're asking for coherency and consistency on this subject, you might as well ask Santa to put it under the tree. That's including the fact your letter to the North Pole will go via Canada Post, and likely won't reach him until February.
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Old 12-11-2024, 09:04 PM   #2890
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I thought this was a joke, but apparently it's real? Kari Lake in charge of turning VOA into America's version of RT.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1867044228619968612
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Well, in fairness 'Death' is a tough medical claim. Usually that one doesnt go through ye ol' Medical Insurance but rather gets kicked down to Life Insurance.

Then you have to go through the whole..."Is he really dead? Are you sure? Describe how he died in 240 characters or less, were there extenuating circumstances, how many villains took him down and were the Thunderbirds summoned?"

And all that crap. You know the usual.
Excuse me sir, I have a medical expert here who would like to challenge the claim of death. He lives under this tree...

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Excuse me sir, I have a medical expert here who would like to challenge the claim of death. He lives under this tree...

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Old 12-11-2024, 09:42 PM   #2893
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Who do you think pays in the private system? The same people, it's just called an insurance premium(and deductibles!) instead of a tax.
That is exactly my point
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I see that Christopher Wray resigned as FBI Director today before Patel comes into his role in January.
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Old 12-11-2024, 11:22 PM   #2895
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I thought this was a joke, but apparently it's real? Kari Lake in charge of turning VOA into America's version of RT.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1867044228619968612
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Old 12-11-2024, 11:33 PM   #2896
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I thought this was a joke, but apparently it's real? Kari Lake in charge of turning VOA into America's version of RT.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1867044228619968612

Lol, I knew she'd get a position somewhere in Trump's clown show. Seems like he's purposely picking the worst, most despicable sacks of s*** for his administration.

So the U.S. will now have their own version of North Korean/Russian state media. This just keeps getting more f***ed up by the day.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy

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I prefer the more modern term, an Idiocracy.
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Sounds like after the premiers met with Trudeau that Canada is going to put real pressure on Trump if he puts those tariffs in place. Doug Ford in Ontario has said he will shut off all exporting of hydro to the US from Ontario. That will affect 1.5M homes that will be without power. There are rumblings Quebec is going to follow suit as well. That's a very strong play and I can't see how Trump can follow through on the tariffs on Canada.
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Don't worry, Smith is already capitulating and saying we won't cut off O&G to the US. She can't even bluff well to help the cause.
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