Paul Bissonnette assaulted by 6 men.

[Eric Vail]

At what point do they call the police?

[jaikorven]

^^^ exactly this

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

At what point do they call the police?

Aye der Boyo! Ya nevar call da Cops on de Irish!

[CroFlames]

If I remember correctly when Biz first made a statement, he said the cops were called immediately by patrons in the restaurant. They were there within minutes.

[transplant99]

Cops were called...thats how these ######bags got caught.

One of the calls was from Biz himself after it all ended. They played it on the MacAfee show.

One other note....Biz said he would be just fine with the guy named Danny Bradley agreeing to get in a ring with him vs going through the justice system....dude really pissed him off.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

If I remember correctly when Biz first made a statement, he said the cops were called immediately by patrons in the restaurant. They were there within minutes.

Yup....he even thanked them on TV today for what they did.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Cops were called...thats how these ######bags got caught.

One of the calls was from Biz himself after it all ended. They played it on the MacAfee show.

One other note....Biz said he would be just fine with the guy named Danny Bradley agreeing to get in a ring with him vs going through the justice system....dude really pissed him off.

That would be a beat down worth watching. Not the stupid Tyson-Paul "fight".

[transplant99]

Also this happened....apparently Larry Kazan is a big time attorney in Phoenix

https://twitter.com/user/status/1866684026045730948

Amazing.

Stevens is the internet sleuth that exposed who and what these guys are.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I can't believe no one else jumped in to help him....instead they just sat there staring at their menus or even worse filming it with their phones. I'm not playing internet tough guy when I say I know what I would have done at the very least and tried to get in between to try and de-escalate it.

This is the part that gets me.

I’m not especially surprised by the golfers - some small fraction of the population are total d-bags. It’s much more troubling to see the evidently 80+ per cent of people who can’t be bothered to help. Like the world is just a movie that happens around them, to gawk at or tell their friends about. But not, you know, actually do anything about.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Biz was on the Pat MaCafee show about an hour ago and went through the whole thing from start to finish.

I know a lot around here view him as a "hockey bro" and aren't exactly fans, but dude was a goddamned hero in this instance. These guys had been running all around Scottsdale that night reigning chaos and fear on innocent people simply out for dinner or drinks.

Biz had no idea what had happened earlier that night elsewhere of course, but he single handidly put an end to it. I can't believe no one else jumped in to help him....instead they just sat there staring at their menus or even worse filming it with their phones. I'm not playing internet tough guy when I say I know what I would have done at the very least and tried to get in between to try and de-escalate it.

There was actually 9 guys but 3 of them didn't engage though they did follow the mob outside and watched from a distance.

Effin cowards.

A real hero would have shot them in the back while they were on the sidewalk

[Locke]

So...are we all in agreement that if we run into Biz in the Wild we just start chasing him and see what happens?

[PugnaciousIntern]

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

Good for Biz... but you're not wrong. Especially in the States. This is how you wind up dead, shot to death in some strip mall parking lot.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

I dont know if that makes you a coward, I dont think thats an assertion I am comfortable in making.

I have been in far more than my fair share of bar fights, however, they have been almost exclusively in Canada.

It holds a much lower likelihood of being stabbed or shot.

Would I step in and involve myself in a bar fight in Arizona or America in general? Probably not.

That place is scary.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

Staying out of it is definitely the smart thing to do. A guy I used to work with was with a group at a bar and one of his group got into an altercation which led to a melee that spilled outside. According to him he wasn't doing anything but trying to difuse the situation and got his forearm and wrist slashed by someone who had a knife.

Ended up with a lengthy hospital stay, weeks of missed work and months of rehab.

Plus he had to deal with potential.criminal.charges and legal issues just for being involved.

It isn't worth it.

[browna]

This was pretty awesome by Biz and he knew what he was getting into and did it anyway.

I'll disagree about the concern lack of help. Within 15 seconds of confrontation the group was out the door and as Biz said, made sure the first guy wasn't around, so got well away from the restaurant.

Someone, even if they watched most of it happen from Biz or the dinks hassling the manager, have no idea what the beef between Biz and group was, was considering how quick it escalated; certainly not enough to go run outside two parking lots away and join the fray, unsure of who is right and wrong.

Most people didn't see it start. If it was a longer, drawn out verbal argument and more were aware and could hear both sides, would Biz have had some help when it kicked off? Maybe.

As Biz said the one manager did go out but was pushed up against a car.

Everyone else in the bar had no idea what happened or was happening and then the group was out the door.

[Strange Brew]

Most of the patrons of that restaurant are probably seniors. Probably not the ones to intervene in a fight. Lots of talk about all the risks of being shot but my guess is that the crime rate in that neighborhood is lower than many places in Calgary where fights might typically happen.

[Calgary Highlander]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

Username does not check out.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

Username does not check out.

Hahaha! Perhaps I am mellowing with age.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Maybe this makes me a coward, but there’s no way I physically insert myself into a bar or street fight. You just don’t know who has weapons and are willing to use them on a whim, especially in the states

That’s not to say I wouldn’t assist in other ways, like calling the cops and making it known that police were coming immediately. But once a brawl breaks out it’s real tough to de-escalate without a superior show of force. I’m not banking on other strangers having my back, as evidenced by this situation.

I'm with you, I have no issues saying I'm a coward too. Definitely, I wouldn't be the guy filming it (always hate when people stoop to that level), but at the same time, I would not have inserted myself to try to stop it. Plus, in the heat of the moment, you have no idea who's in the right and who's in the wrong, and who has a weapon, and who doesn't. I'd call the cops, but I would not be stepping in to potentially get hurt or worse.