2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

From what I’ve been told Kadri has not asked nor mentioned wanting to leave.
I do believe dissentower was closer to this than I am however so I’d trust what he’s heard over myself.

I feel like given the right circumstance he “might” accept a trade but he would have full control of what that looks like. Too many moving parts for him, and he’s won his cup so he’s been pretty vocal now about wanting to play for a team/city that fits his families needs more than his own desire to chase a cup. Hence why he moved his immediate family all out here.

Never say never, but I’d wager his preference is to stay put.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Colby Cohen (a cohort of Jeff Marek’s ?) threw out the names Rasmus Andersson and Nazem Kadri as two players the Dallas Stars might be interested in, now that Seguin is out. Both names make sense for the Stars, although I’m not sure Kadri would want to leave here unless it’s for Toronto.

Originally Posted by Icon

Still think we see Coleman to Dallas.

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Coleman to Dallas is my bet too. Better contract than Kadri (and younger than him too), responsible player, playoff warrior, and hometown boy. And I bet Calgary could squeak out a good return for him.

But do they want a centre or a winger? Was Seguin playing in the middle?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Speaking of Sharangovich, he has a 10 team NTC in his new contract. Can someone remind me if in the new CBA that no trade extends to this season (the last year of his previous contract)?

Nope.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

But do they want a centre or a winger? Was Seguin playing in the middle?

I don't think they really need a center TBH.

Hintz, Duchene, Steel, and Bourque are playing at center right now, and Johnston/Stankoven have both played center at times too.

Their need for a RH dman is much greater than a forward IMO.

Robertson - Hintz - Johnston
Marchment - Duchene - Stankoven
Benn - Steel - Dadonov
Back - Bourque - Blackwell

Don't see a real pressing need at forward, although I'm sure they'd love to add a scoring forward to help the offense with Seguin out. Dallas issue is they lack that true elite forward more than depth and you don't find those in a trade.

The real immediate need is a RH d-man IMO ...

Heiskanen - Lybushkin
Harley - Dumba
Lindell - Lundkvist

That right side is ugly and I'm sure they'd love to have a Heiskanen - Andersson top pair.

Bourque + Lundkvist + 1st Round Pick for Andersson feels like it could be the start of something both teams would have interest in.

[traptor]

Cozens would be a great add.

I also really wonder about Pinto. He's struggling this year, but feels like a prime change of scenery candidate, and the cost would be cheaper I imagine.

I'm not nearly as concerned about the Cozens cap as others on here. I actually think it's a positive thing he's signed for 6 more years. He would definitely fit as a longterm solution.

The tough part is figuring out the cost. I would definitely we willing to give up a late 1st this year. But what else is the question.

Sharangovich, Pelletier or Pospisil as pieces going the other way makes sense.

Then there's vets like Kadri and Coleman.

Plus with Pinto, the Senators might really want to get an extra 1st, since they're going to lose one.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think that someone could pay something like a 4th for Kuzmenko, but not until deadline day. IMO there will be a contender who thinks he can add powerplay/ straight offense to their mid lineup for a playoff push.

If the Flames get any offer for him that doesn't require retention, they should "Start the car!".

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by flambers

Think its more, teams really need center's and Kadri fills a need.

Flames however, I can't see them moving their #1 center

They have zero depth at this position.

Organizationally, the return would have to be huge to make sense for the Flames, probably a young centre/prospect with top 6 upside or a top 10 draft pick.

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Totally disagree. You are entitled to think that way, but again I point to our dogmatic insistence on acting a certain way creating distinct disadvantages for the club over the last 20 years.

You have created this false narrative and now you reference it in every second post. There is no dogmatic insistence on acting a certain way over the past 20 years. And of all the years to think this is a "thing", this year the Flames have dumped FAs, not re-signed UFAs, traded key players, stockpiled picks, etc. which is the opposite of your supposed dogma that you say they suffer from. Does it suck that they haven't had sustained success (only flashes in the pan) over the last 20 years? Yes. Is it due to some sort of unspoken Flames credo that must be abided by year after year for decades? No.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Royle9

From what I’ve been told Kadri has not asked nor mentioned wanting to leave.
I do believe dissentower was closer to this than I am however so I’d trust what he’s heard over myself.

I feel like given the right circumstance he “might” accept a trade but he would have full control of what that looks like. Too many moving parts for him, and he’s won his cup so he’s been pretty vocal now about wanting to play for a team/city that fits his families needs more than his own desire to chase a cup. Hence why he moved his immediate family all out here.

Never say never, but I’d wager his preference is to stay put.

If Kadri wants to stay, that is fine by me. I am happy to have a team full of players who want to be here.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If the Flames could do some version of the Hertl trade with Dallas it might make sense for both teams. Would allow Dallas to add other pieces

Kadri (20% retained) 2025 3rd and 2026 3rd for

Bourque
2025 1st

Gives the Stars a pretty deep forward group for a run with cap space for another dman, especially if a trade like that happens near the deadline.

With the duration remaining on Kadri's contract, 20% retention makes no sense from the Flames' perspective. It either has to be enough retention (ideally 50%) that it's worth substantial assets in return, or it's just not worth tying up one of only three retention slots for 4.5 seasons.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I don't think they really need a center TBH.

Hintz, Duchene, Steel, and Bourque are playing at center right now, and Johnston/Stankoven have both played center at times too.

Their need for a RH dman is much greater than a forward IMO.

Robertson - Hintz - Johnston
Marchment - Duchene - Stankoven
Benn - Steel - Dadonov
Back - Bourque - Blackwell

Don't see a real pressing need at forward, although I'm sure they'd love to add a scoring forward to help the offense with Seguin out. Dallas issue is they lack that true elite forward more than depth and you don't find those in a trade.

The real immediate need is a RH d-man IMO ...

Heiskanen - Lybushkin
Harley - Dumba
Lindell - Lundkvist

That right side is ugly and I'm sure they'd love to have a Heiskanen - Andersson top pair.

Bourque + Lundkvist + 1st Round Pick for Andersson feels like it could be the start of something both teams would have interest in.

Fourth line C, third pairing D and a late first round pick would be a poor return for Andersson IMO.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Fourth line C, third pairing D and a late first round pick would be a poor return for Andersson IMO.

Well it all depends on how you value Bourque TBH.

Is he a bonafide top center prospect that hasn't been given a shot in a deep Stars organization, or is he more of a tweener that isn't going to be a center at the NHL level.

It wouldn't be my preferred return, but I think that's the framework you'd be looking at (Center prospect, Roster d-man, 1st round pick).

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Colby Cohen (a cohort of Jeff Marek’s ?) threw out the names Rasmus Andersson and Nazem Kadri as two players the Dallas Stars might be interested in, now that Seguin is out. Both names make sense for the Stars, although I’m not sure Kadri would want to leave here unless it’s for Toronto.

I'm guessing that Kadri will nix any trade to any US city after what him and his family endured from racist Americans during that playoff run. To be fair, Canadians aren't any less racist though, just more covert and less obvious.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

With the duration remaining on Kadri's contract, 20% retention makes no sense from the Flames' perspective. It either has to be enough retention (ideally 50%) that it's worth substantial assets in return, or it's just not worth tying up one of only three retention slots for 4.5 seasons.

Retention spots only matter if there are players you are planning on retaining on. Hard to envision who other than Rasmus the Flames would possibly retain on this year or next year. Even if they signed a player to a one year contract with the intention of trading him next year or wanted to trade Backlund next year Conroy would just have to find a team who wanted to take on the retention for part of the return package.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Icon

Still think we see Coleman to Dallas.

I think Coleman will have a ton of value and can see Dallas being interested for sure. But I also see Dallas trying to squeeze the Flames on the return since they'd feel they have the advantage seeing as Coleman is from there and then losing out to a team willing to give fair value.

[HighLifeMan]

Backlund seems like a far more attractive and realistic option for Dallas than Kadri does.

A Backlund/Andersson package deal would fit the Stars needs to a T, but the ask would be immense.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Organizationally, the return would have to be huge to make sense for the Flames, probably a young centre/prospect with top 6 upside or a top 10 draft pick.

Top 10 draft pick for Kadri?

I guess if the Flames believe they are a playoff team this year and in the future they might not be willing to trade him.

But he's expensive for now and for another 4 years and not playing very well. If they are truly in rebuilding mode they should be more than willing to get that contract off the books period.

Holding out for a top 10 pick that will never happen.

At this stage, they are better to wait and see if he rebounds to some extent.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by activeStick

To be fair, Canadians aren't any less racist though, just more covert and less obvious.

I am surprised you would say that.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Backlund seems like a far more attractive and realistic option for Dallas than Kadri does.

A Backlund/Andersson package deal would fit the Stars needs to a T, but the ask would be immense.

Backlund isn't going anywhere this season.

He signed that last deal with the full intention of retiring as a Flame....hence the NMC for 2 years.....and then maybe see who might be interested at the TD next year.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

But why not?

This is exactly what I keep talking about. We need to throw away our attachment to the way things have been done here. The way things have been done here doesn't work.

Calgary is not a desirable market for most mid 20’s players and one thing Conroy has been adamant about since taking over as GM is he wants people that want to be here and he gets a commitment from Sharangovich so to then turn around and ship him out before his new contract kicks in (to the Sabres of all teams) that sends a poor message to players that may want to or would be willing to come here. Conroy does this a couple of times then players will demand NTC’s to sign here. Optics are key. Calgary doesn’t have the luxury to be ruthless like NY or LV because those markets are in the top 5 of the league and almost every player wants to be there.