Recommend (or don't) a movie thread v2

[DownInFlames]

Dutch angle blah blah blah natural light blah blah blah diegetic music blah blah blah.

[getbak]

I only call them flicks.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Dutch angle blah blah blah natural light blah blah blah diegetic music blah blah blah.

Wow, nerd.

[Locke]

I love Venom.

He is my favourite comic-book character but...oof....that film was not good.

[jg13]

Watched Heretic tonight. Its a clever thriller/mystery/horror that focuses on religion. 4/5

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Locke

I love Venom.

He is my favourite comic-book character but...oof....that film was not good.

Sorry which Venom film wasn't good?

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Sorry which Venom film wasn't good?

Spider-man 3.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Dutch angle blah blah blah natural light blah blah blah diegetic music blah blah blah.

Mise-en-scène?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Sorry which Venom film wasn't good?

I could tolerate the first couple...they were...3.6 Roentgen.

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Spider-man 3.

Well obviously.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

The Casa Bonita documentary was quite entertaining. I knew nothing about that place before South Park, but now I want to plan a trip to Colorado just to go there with my kids. It also reaffirmed my view of Matt & Trey as personal heroes. 30 years working together, no serious drama or animosity, and they still care about making great entertainment as much as they did when they started

And seeing Trey actually put that prospector animatronic in a Farrah Fawcett t-shirt was the biggest unexpected laugh I've had in a while

Watched it. Really enjoyed it! Had to go for Mexican food last night though.

Reminded me a bit of Class Action Park on HBO - documentary about a crazy amusement park in NJ that had the mythical "full loop" waterslide.

https://www.classactionpark.com/

It was so insane the locals started calling it "Traction Park" and they had to buy their own ambulance so the nearest towns weren't always sending theirs.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

The Casa Bonita documentary was quite entertaining. I knew nothing about that place before South Park, but now I want to plan a trip to Colorado just to go there with my kids. It also reaffirmed my view of Matt & Trey as personal heroes. 30 years working together, no serious drama or animosity, and they still care about making great entertainment as much as they did when they started

And seeing Trey actually put that prospector animatronic in a Farrah Fawcett t-shirt was the biggest unexpected laugh I've had in a while

Not going to lie, I thought it was a joke.

But two rich sarcastic comedians who know jack about the food service industry? Yeah. This'll go well. What could go wrong?

[Dunnyberg]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

People talk up the Eastwood movies that Leone did but OUATITW blows them out of the water IMO. Just filmmaking brilliance and one of only a very few Westerns that actually has a theme deeper than "this is a movie about revenge" or some such superficial slop (although it obviously also does the revenge thing perfectly well)

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think it's literally just "white man bad" and "colonialism bad" and "accept mass immigration".
Charles Bronson (although I dont think it is stated in the film, just implied) plays a native guy passing as a white guy, seeking revenge for the death of his son, killed while balanced together on a colonial ruin. Then, in another bit of vapid/cheezy/cringy symbolism, Charles Bronson spends the rest of the movie dressed in a red shirt under a white coat.
But the most telling parts are the first and last scenes. The first shot is the woman walking in front of two slaves carrying water, then the very last shot is the woman serving water to hordes of mostly Asian and black workers, until she is totally surrounded and eventually disappears.

You have to remember the movie was written by a bunch of Italian Socialists, eager to retcon American history, who probably had a limited understanding of the settling of the West in the first place.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Dunnyberg

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think it's literally just "white man bad" and "colonialism bad" and "accept mass immigration".
Charles Bronson (although I dont think it is stated in the film, just implied) plays a native guy passing as a white guy, seeking revenge for the death of his son, killed while balanced together on a colonial ruin. Then, in another bit of vapid/cheezy/cringy symbolism, Charles Bronson spends the rest of the movie dressed in a red shirt under a white coat.
But the most telling parts are the first and last scenes. The first shot is the woman walking in front of two slaves carrying water, then the very last shot is the woman serving water to hordes of mostly Asian and black workers, until she is totally surrounded and eventually disappears.

You have to remember the movie was written by a bunch of Italian Socialists, eager to retcon American history, who probably had a limited understanding of the settling of the West in the first place.

Seek Help.

I'm not even making a joke. You have a problem. Seek Help.

[Harry Lime]

It's like those articles, where they take a classic book or movie, and the title of the piece is "10 problematic things about ______". Very limited understanding of the medium, and period in context.

Cinematography is the look of the film that evokes an emotion from the watcher. #### cinematography evokes nothing, and good elevates. Filmy, filmy film film. It's called that because that is literally the physical thing the image is attached to.

You guys sound like when I go into a mechanic and say, "I hear a couple of loud zonks when I turn, and I think the crank weevil might be loose." It's about learning the terminology so that you can better express yourself.

When you watch a locally shot movie and you love the way that the sweeping landscapes were represented, you are enjoying the cinematography.

When you are disappointed that the movie your watching is grainy, it's because it's video and not film. It denotes a certain amount of expense and care. The bastardization of the term towards modern digital filmmaking, is just that, a bastardization... but we let it pass if the mfs drop 100 mil on the thing.

I don't find pretentiousness in the language, but certainly in some of the people that use it. Or are in reference to it. Steven Soderbergh is granddaddy of pretentiousness. He makes modern filmmakers think that they can write, direct and shoot a movie themselves, and 98% of the time it ends up as ####. You need writers, cinematographers, and you sit back direct the thing, you high falootin' goon.

For every Tarantino, who can do it, there's 1000 idiots you wouldn't want to be left alone in a room with.

I've lost my train of thought.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Dunnyberg

Charles Bronson (although I dont think it is stated in the film, just implied) plays a native guy passing as a white guy, seeking revenge for the death of his son, killed while balanced together on a colonial ruin. Then, in another bit of vapid/cheezy/cringy symbolism, Charles Bronson spends the rest of the movie dressed in a red shirt under a white coat.
But the most telling parts are the first and last scenes. The first shot is the woman walking in front of two slaves carrying water, then the very last shot is the woman serving water to hordes of mostly Asian and black workers, until she is totally surrounded and eventually disappears.

So first of all, you get an F for your little essay there. The ethnicity of the character Bronson plays is of no relevance to anything, and he's seeking revenge for his brother, not his son.

It's standard, classic western movie trope stuff, right down to Bronson (Harmonica) spending the whole movie dressed in white, hat and coat alike, and Fonda (Frank) in black. These are the rules of the world they inhabit and they're well acquainted with them, as are we, since westerns have been a major genre for decades by this point. Throughout the movie the two main characters follow those rules to a point where they essentially know exactly how the whole thing is going to play out - "Surprised to see me here?" "I knew you'd come". "Now I know you'll tell me what you're after." "Only at the point of dying." "I know."

Anyway, no, the main theme is death of those rules due to the march of progress and the end of the west as it was previously. Harmonica, Cheyenne and Frank are doomed, living relics of a former age who have no place in the new world that's being built. This is very obviously symbolized by the railway line that's being built throughout the movie - the inevitable advance of industrialization and society that they have to race to get ready for by building a station before the tracks have gotten there.

Hell, there's literally an explicit line about Morton, the eastern businessman, and others like him "killing off" the frontier, and how Frank and Harmonica are nevertheless unable to adapt to that reality, stuck in their blood feud, itself a vestige of that frontier society to be settled by an old-fashioned gunfight... and the whole thing is meta-thematic because it's Leone's swan song for and love letter to the western, a genre of movie whose popularity was fast fading at the end of the 1960s - when Henry Fonda went on Dick Cavett in 1972 and talked about his role in the film, Cavett had never heard of the movie and asked if it ever even made it to theatres in the USA.

So, no, you're completely out to lunch and as noted above should probably seek help.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

So first of all, you get an F for your little essay there. The ethnicity of the character Bronson plays is of no relevance to anything, and he's seeking revenge for his brother, not his son.

It's standard, classic western movie trope stuff, right down to Bronson (Harmonica) spending the whole movie dressed in white, hat and coat alike, and Fonda (Frank) in black. These are the rules of the world they inhabit and they're well acquainted with them, as are we, since westerns have been a major genre for decades by this point. Throughout the movie the two main characters follow those rules to a point where they essentially know exactly how the whole thing is going to play out - "Surprised to see me here?" "I knew you'd come". "Now I know you'll tell me what you're after." "Only at the point of dying." "I know."

Anyway, no, the main theme is death of those rules due to the march of progress and the end of the west as it was previously. Harmonica, Cheyenne and Frank are doomed, living relics of a former age who have no place in the new world that's being built. This is very obviously symbolized by the railway line that's being built throughout the movie - the inevitable advance of industrialization and society that they have to race to get ready for by building a station before the tracks have gotten there.

Hell, there's literally an explicit line about Morton, the eastern businessman, and others like him "killing off" the frontier, and how Frank and Harmonica are nevertheless unable to adapt to that reality, stuck in their blood feud, itself a vestige of that frontier society to be settled by an old-fashioned gunfight... and the whole thing is meta-thematic because it's Leone's swan song for and love letter to the western, a genre of movie whose popularity was fast fading at the end of the 1960s - when Henry Fonda went on Dick Cavett in 1972 and talked about his role in the film, Cavett had never heard of the movie and asked if it ever even made it to theatres in the USA.

So, no, you're completely out to lunch and as noted above should probably seek help.

Perfect summary.

Anyone interested in this sort of stuff - or just a fascination with the Western genre - should read Sixguns and Society by Will Wright.

[OutOfTheCube]

I'm wondering if we're finally seeing the end of the superhero movie fad starting to hit.

2021 had 5 of the top six grossing movies (including the top 4) all superhero movies.
2022 had 5 of the top nine grossing movies again but spread out a little more.
2023 had 3 of the top ten.

2024 there will only be one superhero movie in the top 15, a crazy fall. While that one was a megahit (Deadpool & Wolverine) there were plenty of bombs. It will be interesting to see how the genre does next year when it's lacking really any surefire hit.

[Brendone]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

For every Tarantino, who can do it, there's 1000 idiots you wouldn't want to be left alone in a room with.

Sorry, Tarantino films, flicks, cinema, blah blah blah, are such crap.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Brendone

Sorry, Tarantino films, flicks, cinema, blah blah blah, are such crap.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Some Tarantino is quality. Some is massively overrated.

His recent movies seem to suffer from being derivative of better movies he made earlier in his career while having less substance or novelty, but that's the path of a lot of creatives.

He did makea a couple good ones in the 2010s.